Positions where one key recruit can make a huge difference

Irondawg

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And think of it this way....if you upgraded a position on the field from "average" to "elite" where does it have the most impact?

QB - obvious. If you have an abover average QB it's rare that you don't go bowling even if the rest of your team is mediocre.

DE - if you've got a guy who can consistently beat his guy and put pressure on the QB you're defensemay see marked improvement. For recent example, lookwhat Greg Hardy when healthy did for that OM team in a few games. He was a one-man wrecking crew. In the NFL, look what Julius Peppers did for that Bear defense.

DT - a great one can be disrupt an entire offense - think Fairleyor Suh

MLB - QB of the defense. You need an above average one to generally have a really good defense. Great defenses usually also have an elite MLB ..and this is where losing a guy like CJ hurts assuming he lives up to the hype.

Those are my main ones, here's how I view the other positions:

OL - you need multiple guys. One great tackle and below average guys everywhere else do you no good. You can get away with a strong half (lots of teams run mostly to one side or the other)..but it takes more than one guy here to make a big impact

WR - has to be immensely special, and would usually be reserved for the 6'3+ guys (AJ Green recent SEC example) or be Top 5 national return guy (like a Harvin)

RB- so dependant on his OL, has to be elite to make a mark on his own.

CB - has to be shutdown and there are only a handful of guys like that exist and they arehard to project. Remember Pegues was supposed to be one as well. But so many teams run the spread now that one good corner doesn't have the overall impact it once had.

S - he better be Ed Reed and just an absolute monster. But this position is probably next b/c they do so much pass and run support that a great one can really boost you.

OLB - you certainly want good ones...but having a great OLB compared to an average ones doesn't give you the overall boost compared to other positions
 
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1dawgfan09

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Irondawg said:
And think of it this way....if you upgraded a position on the field from "average" to "elite" where does it have the most impact?

QB - obvious. If you have an abover average QB it's rare that you don't go bowling even if the rest of your team is mediocre.

DE - if you've got a guy who can consistently beat his guy and put pressure on the QB you're defensemay see marked improvement. For recent example, lookwhat Greg Hardy when healthy did for that OM team in a few games. He was a one-man wrecking crew. In the NFL, look what Julius Peppers did for that Bear defense.

DT - a great one can be disrupt an entire offense - think Fairleyor Suh

MLB - QB of the defense. You need an above average one to generally have a really good defense. Great defenses usually also have an elite MLB ..and this is where losing a guy like CJ hurts assuming he lives up to the hype.

Those are my main ones, here's how I view the other positions:

OL - you need multiple guys. One great tackle and below average guys everywhere else do you no good. You can get away with a strong half (lots of teams run mostly to one side or the other)..but it takes more than one guy here to make a big impact

WR - has to be immensely special, and would usually be reserved for the 6'3+ guys (AJ Green recent SEC example) or be Top 5 national return guy (like a Harvin)

RB- so dependant on his OL, has to be elite to make a mark on his own.

CB - has to be shutdown and there are only a handful of guys like that exist and they arehard to project. Remember Pegues was supposed to be one as well. But so many teams run the spread now that one good corner doesn't have the overall impact it once had.

S - he better be Ed Reed and just an absolute monster. But this position is probably next b/c they do so much pass and run support that a great one can really boost you.

OLB - you certainly want good ones...but having a great OLB compared to an average ones doesn't give you the overall boost compared to other positions

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Irondawg

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A solid placekicker and punter are immensely valuable....and should be on the top list. So many games are decided by 7 points or less that missing makeable FG's just kills you.

An elite FG kicker is probably on average worth at least 1 win per year to an average team and could be worth 2-3 easily.

And we've all seen what a good punter vs. bad punter can do.
 

tenureplan

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Sure it is dependant upon the OL, but so is QB for that matter. Look at what Lattimore did for SC last eyar and then look at how bad they were when he didn't play.

Edit to Add:

In a 3-4 scheme an OLB is pretty similar to a 4-3 DE, so alot of this is dependant to what scheme is being run...on both sides of the ball.
 

ckDOG

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The rest are debatable. I think it all starts up front on either side of the ball. A solid OL or DL can make or break a unit and make the skill guys that play behind them look like Heisman contenders or D2 talent. I will choose a solid group of o-lineman over an equally talent group of WRs any day of the week in any system. It's your better chance at scoring points. Same goes for d line. Run stopping and pash rush trumps shut down corners too.
 

Syd and Harrys

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An elite left tackle can negate the blind side pass rush; it should probably belong in the top group. Other than that, the list seems dead on.
 

RebelBruiser

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I've always felt it went this way:

QB
DL
OL
LB
RB
DB
WR/TE

That's not breaking it down further. Obviously on the OL, the LT spot and the center spot are much more important than the other 3 positions, and on the DL I think a strong DT is more important than a DE. You can't run your offense away from a DT nearly as easily as a DE. And obviously MLBs are more important than OLBs.

In general though, I think it goes defense first then offense and vice versa once you get past QB, and you go progressively further away from the ball. The closer you are to the ball at the snap, the more important you are.

Auburn is a great example. Elite talents at QB and DT took them from an average team to a national title team. The DT in particular can change an entire defense and make everyone else's job easier.
 

ckDOG

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I think a great OL can help dictate the pace of the game and the defense can feed off of that as a result. Long time consuming drives can help make an average defense look great by keeping them fresh.