Because Rutgers is seen as a mid level program. Why did Urban Meyer leave Utah? Why did Saban leave Michigan State?
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Dantonio isn't leaving MSU. Willingham doesn't appear to be leaving Utah. Peterson stayed at Boise forever.
This post is funny because of all these things, the last one is the most likely.
Sorry to burst you guys bubbles but Flood aint going anywhere.
Towers and the propaganda machine are going to come up with a new defense and it will all be well again, just watch.
Towers and the propaganda machine are going to come up with a new defense and it will all be well again, just watch.
There is nothing to propagandize. There are no wins and no squeaky clean image. There is nothing but total chaos.
They will fire him over that email. If we lose to TTFP should be done a week from today. Bye.
They will fire him over that email. If we lose to TTFP should be done a week from today. Bye.
Julie here no gs.
The idea he didnt win be makes him bad choice is well beyond laughable. He could have done better but we were in the top 10 during his tenure! With good apr and rep. Stop the nonsense.
He offended some but we dont need a friend to the band, we need a firm ceo.
The idea he didnt win be makes him bad choice is well beyond laughable. He could have done better but we were in the top 10 during his tenure! With good apr and rep. Stop the nonsense.
He offended some but we dont need a friend to the band, we need a firm ceo.
I don't see any scenario where a big time head coach comes to work for Rutgers under the current circumstances (ex: hostile media, perceived lack of support from the administration, tight checkbook). Really, unless there is money and some semblance of control of the athletic department, what coach pines for Rutgers as a dream job?
A simple coaching switch is just not in the cards, unless Rutgers plans to blow up the athletic department or go with another young, unproven (and cheap) option.
A simple coaching switch is just not in the cards, unless Rutgers plans to blow up the athletic department or go with another young, unproven (and cheap) option.
Knowing RU, Bruce Jenner probably ends up coach
*throws glitter and does undie prance*
*throws glitter and does undie prance*
Floods extension was paid by a donor. No doubt Brown and other GS supporters will come out and pay for him to return. Schiano will retun.
"There is nothing to propagandize. There are no wins and no squeaky clean image. There is nothing but total chaos."
Exactly. Wasn't the main reason people wanted Flood was because he was "an honorable man?" -- the suspensions and arrested have tarnished that reputation and it's possible RU could use the email situation as justification for termination. If nothing else, doesn't the email situation strongly hint about just how much Flood is over his head as a head coach?
Exactly. Wasn't the main reason people wanted Flood was because he was "an honorable man?" -- the suspensions and arrested have tarnished that reputation and it's possible RU could use the email situation as justification for termination. If nothing else, doesn't the email situation strongly hint about just how much Flood is over his head as a head coach?
I am so with you on this that shipped sailed a long time ago
Everybody forgets that Dave Cohens incident was under Flood watch also, he was the defense coordinator. Flood is responsible for any bad news to the football program. There's just too much bad publicity.
With the Dave Cohen situation, Flood should have been aware and been able to defuse the situation. When you fire someone, you want the person to feel that he failed on the job, be compassionate not that we screwed him.
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The key is to identify what qualities we want in a coach. Personally I want: head coaching experience, expertise on one side of ball, I think clean program history will be necessary. Based on that:
Dino Babers
Matt Campbell
Fleck - doesn't have the expertise or winning that I want
My favorite candidate - Mike Stoops
Dino Babers
Matt Campbell
Fleck - doesn't have the expertise or winning that I want
My favorite candidate - Mike Stoops
I think it's most likely Schiano, just because Greg Brown will want him back.
I think Schiano would more likely end up at Miami. He's too cozy down in Florida. His kids go to school down there. I can see him being successful down there too.
I think Fleck is the best option. In reality though I bet Rutgers hires from within and makes McDaniels the head coach.
How could they seriously hire mcdaniels ? He's on the current , unsuccessful staff . It's time to clean house if this season spirals .
exactly. Its going to be all about negotiating. It brings instant healing back to Rutgers to help its tarnished image
the idea we are going with McDaniels or another 750K hire are wrong
You do know that Tressel was banned from college football for a few years and run out of Columbus due to player behavioral issues at Ohio State????
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Omg this white bus fella doesn't know college football. Tressel won a lot wherever he was. I guess national championships are not good enough for you ?
Also is under a show cause until December of 2016. Any school that hires him must show cause for why it shouldn't be sanctioned for hiring him, and could face severe penalties if he commits any further violations while under the show cause penalty .
Omg this white bus fella doesn't know college football. Tressel won a lot wherever he was. I guess national championships are not good enough for you ?
Also is under a show cause until December of 2016. Any school that hires him must show cause for why it shouldn't be sanctioned for hiring him, and could face severe penalties if he commits any further violations while under the show cause penalty .
As I've said in the past, I always like talking about coaches regardless of whether we're making a hire or not.
My names from the last few years Montgomery/Morris/Herman were all hired this past offseason. Herman's buyout is over 2M if he gets hired away before 2018 so that would probably exclude him from all but the very top programs. I wouldn't be surprised if Morris didn't have something similar. Montgomery I don't know.
This year's crop I wouldn't say there's anyone I'd feel as good about as Herman or the other two. I haven't come across anyone that sticks out but if I had to choose 1, Justin Fuente at Memphis is a name I like. They looked like they were in shambles before he got there like 5 wins total in 3 seasons prior and he won 4 and 3 his first 2 years and last year followed it up with 10 last year with a lost to Ole Miss, a close loss to UCLA away and a close loss to Houston. They finished the year #25 in the polls. Not bad for year 3 for team that looked in total disarray when he came on board. I'd assume he'd run a spread as well which is my preference.
I liked the fact that he worked as co-OC under a good coach like Patterson. They went and lost the Fiesta Bowl but beat Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. So far this year they're 2-0 with convincing victories against Missouri State and at Kansas. I always worry about flash in the pan so I'd like to see what he could do this year to add to his resume. He'll be facing those 3 guys (Herman/Morris/Montgomery) on his side of the AAC this year. Also will be playing Temple/Cincy/Bowling Green/Ole Miss so if he could have another good year on that type or schedule that would sell me a little more.
If he can repeat what he did last year Fuente would be a name that should be on an athletic director's list. His salary got bumped to that 1.5M range and his buyout is 500K.
You know I like this stuff as much as you. Lol. I've been told Fuentes would struggle recruiting here and his southern personality wouldn't be a good fit in NJ. I know HS coaches really like Rhule and he's obviously doing A good job At Temple. I love Babers and have for some time. I think he is young enough but has real solid experience and he has won in multiple places. Year 2 at BG is off to a real solid start. I wouldn't want a coordinator unless it's a home run because we see how learning on the job can pan out. That being said, I'm intrigued by the OC at TCU. He's was OC at Houston when they crushed us and has worked under some good coaches.
Wow dude you need to do some research. WB is spot-on with his comments regarding JT. Yes, he won, but he has actually not been ALLOWED to coach, by the NCAA, for a few years now and another 1 or 2 seasons IIRC.
Yea I could see that with personality issues but I'm just talking about possible P5 coaching prospects in general not specifically about us. I think the same culture issues could have popped up for Morris/Montgomery. Herman I think would have been fine here. Besides I'm sure there are coaches that coach in other parts of the country away from their origins and do fine so it's not as much a deal breaker for me.
I'm still not shy about hiring a coordinator just like those 3 but I'm just not enamored with any of the current crop like the mid major HCs. A name like Scott Frost who some have mentioned here would finallly come up on my radar if he can prove he can do it without Mariota this year and still create a high powered offense. If he can do it again next year after the Eastern Washington kids leaves that would really raise his stock in my eyes. Like I say repeat it again and again with new faces then I'm more likely to be sold.
Doug Meacham/Sonny Cumbie are Texas/Oklahoma types so if you worried about personality issues wouldn't that be a concern about them too. Again I don't care about that stuff as much but if you do then I think it would be an issue. I do like that he coached another qb like Okorn? at Houston and not just Boykin at TCU. I don't know what their offenses were ranked at Houston though even though they did seem strong.
Willie fritz. 144-67 at 3 schools.
I'm not against hiring guys with different cultural backgrounds but that was something a HS coach pointed out to me in that specific instance. Ironically we were talking about this last night without any inkling of the present situation.
Yes Joe Morehead. ..
He was OC for UCONN when they went to the fiesta bowl.
He took a horrible Fordham team and made them one of the better squads in FCS.
Give him a call.
He was OC for UCONN when they went to the fiesta bowl.
He took a horrible Fordham team and made them one of the better squads in FCS.
Give him a call.
He also signed a big extension though 2021 and I think you need to go bigger or donors will be skittish. Not saying he can't coach but he isn't going to get fans or recruits excited.
Yea from what I see posted here NJ coaches are too provincial and generally what has listening to them gotten us. Just give me a good coach and put some local flavor on the staff.
Fritz is a name I've seen in a few articles here and there but I don't know much about him in terms of what he runs etc..He could be a Paul Johnson/Jim Tressel.....or not. All I see is his record which is good but I don't know much more.