Possible Upset of Louisville ?

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Fun read on this thread. UK is playing much better but the reality is the acts have beaten 3 bad sec teams that will. Not make a bowl. Let's see how you do playing a better Georgia team and a much better Tenn team.
 

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Anyone like apples......how 'bout dem ?
We are playing with more heart every week. And, we always play them tough each year regarding how we both are ranked. It is a rivalry game.

I think we could surprise them this year. It will be closer than many on here think.

Just think if they are 10-1 and we beat them, dashing their hopes for a Playoff, along with getting us to a better bowl at 7 or 8 wins.
 

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Fun read on this thread. UK is playing much better but the reality is the acts have beaten 3 bad sec teams that will. Not make a bowl. Let's see how you do playing a better Georgia team and a much better Tenn team.
[roll]I bet that crown royal tastes bitter tonite. Now get ready for your annual *** beating in basketball.
 

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  • Offensively we lose 3 OL... no getting around that. But the ones who are behind them, have played in mop-up duty alot, and have now been in the system 2-3 years.
  • We lose James Quick, and I have to say that he is not a Devante Parker-type WR... he has never shown himself to be an Elite play maker at this level of College Football.
  • We lose Brandon Ratcliff... but he is a product of the offense. He is good... but he is not game breaker good... Jeremy Smith is a better back... and we have several GOOD backs behind both of them. In fact, Ratcliff is our only back smaller than 6'0"... and we have a "Boom Williams\Dalvin Cook" -type RB coming in next year. B-Rad's numbers a product of Jackson and the improved offensive line.
  • We lose Col H., the Tight End... but, hey, that is a plug in position for Petrino. We have Micky Crum who is just as versatile (Scored TD against A&M, and against Clemson last year).
  • We lose Jamari Staples... who is good, but once again, none of these guys put "Scares" in defenses like Devante Parker and Seth Dawkins... Dawkins, as a 3-star who was being pursued HOTLY by UK, is an elite WR with NFL size, and Megatron-like Catch Radius... As a TRUE freshman, he has played and scored 2 TD's... while 2 other higher ranked WR's have been red-shirted...
  • That is literally all we lose on offense...7 guys... who, honestly, will be replaced by better talent.
  • On defense, that is where I fear, we will take a beating. We lose Elite playmakers in Josh Harvey Clemmons, Devonte Fields, and De-Angelo Brown.... Yes, Johnathan Greenard has stepped up, and hopefully, prayerfully, we should get back the guy who had better numbers and was more disruptive than Fields, in Trevon Young... But our Defensive Backfield will be stinging... because Chucky Williams is not versatile enough to play that LB\Safety combo position like JHC...
When I look at the games... over past 5 years, against UK, I can sum then up as this:

  1. 2011 Was Teddy's coming out party. UK knocked the Walk-on starting QB, Stein out of the game, in 1st quarter. In come's Teddy, and Cards take the lead for entire game and hold on with Ball Control and defense. Bridgewater became that Elite, playmaker QB, in the clutch. He was the difference, and our defense sacked a very bad situation at QB for UK. Strong's defense basically stymied UK's offense for most of the 2nd half...
  2. 2012 Was a "grind-out" game where Cards got the lead, and used Ball Control and some timely defensive plays, to maintain that lead. Stats are very misleading...half time score was 22-7, and then in 3rd quarter, it was 32-7 before UK tacked on another TD.
  3. 2013 was another grind it out game, this time, where UK just could not match the Cards on the offensive side of the ball. Stoops first game was a decent battle, where Louisville, once again, led for most of a grind it out game.
  4. 2014 was a disaster... From the pre-kick off activities, to the quick start by UK... Just like with last year, its not that UK dominated the opening half... its that UK punched Louisville in the mouth, and the Cards had to adjust. Interception, -5 yard drive, PUNT, by Louisville offense shows how UK DID managed to dominate the first part of the 1st quarter. But then, Louisville seemed to remember who they were... 10 plays led to 2 TD's sandwiched around a defensive stop... was all it took, from Bolin... (keep in mind, that, for the 2nd time in this series, UK knocked a Louisville QB out, and the replacement came in and Led the CARDS to victory). From the moment, UK lost the lead, at 14-13, only Turnovers kept the CATS in hte game as the Louisville defense dominated from the middle of the 2nd quarter to the middle of the 3rd quarter. 4rth quarter went back and forth... but Cards pull out the win.
  5. 2015, started out like 2014... but when you look between the lines, UK only had 2 sustained drives in the entire 1st half... 1 for a FG and 1 For a TD... this is telling...as UK gained 229 total yards in the 1st half... while Louisville threw 3 INT's that led to 2 TD's and a FG for UK... (17 points off of turnovers). 2nd half was a night mare as UK generated only 62 yards of total offense...and was literally dominated...

Here are some observation notes from past 5 games of this entire series

  • 4 different coaches have coached, Joker, Strong, Stoops, and Petrino. UK's total offense has never been ranked inside of the top 94 (via ESPN stats).
  • 4 different OC's at UK... during this 5 year period, and none of them have compiled more than 376 total yards against Louisville's defense. Last year, and 2011, the total was 290...
  • 3 different OC's at Louisville during this 5 year period (Sanford, Watson, McGee) have averaged no less than 466 yards of total offense against Kentucky defenses that have never been ranked inside the top 40, top 30, or even top 20...
  • AS it stands, UK's defense is not built to stop Louisville's offensive. 426 yards allowed per-game, 202 yards on the ground... 3 of the teams UK has beaten have put up 141-242 yards on the ground on UK regardless of who the DC was. Louisville averages 280-300+ yards on the ground.To Stop Louisville, you will need to have an Alabama or NC State, or FSU, or Clemson like defensive line...which is just not available to UK at the moment, regardless of if we use Jackson or Bolin at QB... We run the ball very well...and we pass the ball, very well...
  • total weirdness... Jokers last 2 teams, finished the season ranked 41 in Total Defense... With Missouri, UGA, UT, Austin Peay, and Louisville coming up... I don't see UK's currently ranked #72 defense, finishing near the top 40...
  • According to stats, in regards to YPG, Louisville has faced the following offenses
    • Syracuse #23
    • FSU #25
    • Will face Houston at #32
    • Clemson #35
    • NC State #72
    • Charlotte # 87
    • Marshall #88
    • Will face UVA at #90
    • Duke at #92
    • Will face UK at #98
    • Will face WFU at #119
    • Will face BC at #124
  • UK has faced
    • Will face Missouri #11
    • Alabama #15
    • Southern Miss #19
    • New Mexico State #46
    • Florida #52
    • Will face UGA #74
    • Miss. State #77
    • Will face UT #80
    • South Carolina #123
    • Vandy #125
    • Louisville #2
3 top 30 offenses Louisville has gone against... and gone 2-1. We did not strangle Syracuse, but we did hold them 70+ yards below their average. FSU was basically dominated... And Clemson went over their averages... So far, UK has played 2 top 30 offenses and is 0-2...
I got one stat for ya tard fan. 41-38.
 

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Everyone says L. Jackson is the only reason we cant beat UL...that is far far from the case...they are loaded from position to position...two years ago they beat us with their second string QB! Quit with the Lamar Jackson excuse...it is very lame.
Loaded huh? Lol
 
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CardHack mentions another aspect to the running back position that I did not bring up: blocking. I didn't because it's tough to quantify, without a detailed analysis of every offensive play of every game. Just in general, I have been very impressed with Radcliff and Smith's blocking. Williams not so much, but to give him the benefit of the doubt, he along with the whole UK offense is still learning Gran's system. Snell is also a work in progress in this area.
He mentioned and then proved himself an idiot by saying that Boom doesn't block. Pure, uneducated stupidity.
 

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You don't have the talent of Florida State...no RB On the Kentucky roster is Dalvin Cook and nobody on the front seven is as good as DeMarcus Walker...you saw what happened in Papa John's and you saw what happened this past Saturday against a team going into that game had only given up 3 rushing TD in NC State.
Hmmm... did you see what happen this past Saturday?
 

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Understanding that We will not hold UK to under 100 yards in rushing... understanding that MSU allows for 154 rushing yards per game... and that Gran loves to run the ball... that is his philosophy. It just takes a decent defensive line to stop UK's run. MSU is ok... but not decent, as evident by their 5 loses...
How did that work out for ya?
 
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If UofL doesn't put up 42+ by halftime I'll be shocked. They're just on another level, a championship level. Lamar Jackson elevates them to that championship level, but even if he wasn't there Petrino would have another capable QB starting. They're just light years better than UK at this point, as difficult as that is to say.
Ha!
 
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UofL's OL a question mark ? Louisville is 6th in the country in rushing offense and 14th in passing offense and #2 in Total Offense. So I think that OL is holding up just fine. Plus Louisville gave up over 40 sacks last year compared to 13 so far this year.
Lol. Typical Tardinal.
 
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Fun read on this thread. UK is playing much better but the reality is the acts have beaten 3 bad sec teams that will. Not make a bowl. Let's see how you do playing a better Georgia team and a much better Tenn team.
I'm glad I found this thread. You're right it was a fun read.
 
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You don't have the talent of Florida State...no RB On the Kentucky roster is Dalvin Cook and nobody on the front seven is as good as DeMarcus Walker...you saw what happened in Papa John's and you saw what happened this past Saturday against a team going into that game had only given up 3 rushing TD in NC State.
You care to revise your post? When you played FSU, they were terrible... They would beat you now... You underestimated UK... UK fans knew what we had and you guys never think that UK has anything... They rose up and bit you....
 

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Miss St. is 59th against the run, UofL is 19th against the run. Florida is 22nd against the run and UK didn't break 100 yards against UF's defense. UK's rush defense currently ranks 93rd in the country.

I would wait to see how your backs do against UGA's rush defense which is currently two spots ahead of UofL before I would get to excited.
We did pretty good against Georgia... I guess you didn't notice that they beat us on the last play of the game...

Get ready next year... The cats will be NASTY!!!
 
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Wow...Zombie thread BUT well earned...that what makes the back and forth debate great and Kentucky has the Bragging rights for a year...Again Congrats on the win Saturday...must say was totally wrong and the Wildcats improved Greatly from 26 October to 26 November.

You guys went 7-3 the last 10 Games-(easily could have went 8-2) and the future is bright...Again Good Luck in the Bowl whether it is the Music City Bowl, Belk Bowl and I'm rooting for the Taxslayer Gator Bowl....
 
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Come on PUM you are really better than this (I think)...you are wearing your red tinted glasses on steroids...stat wise the tight ends are dead even except Conrad has only 1 less td with 15 fewer catches. The rb comparison may be even more egregious in the fact that your rbs have almost zero pressure on them, but because of the system that Gran has decided to employ UK's have big bulls eyes on their backs and they still are doing outstanding. With that being said, Otis certainly seems to have the much better team at the moment, but I'm much more concerned with winning the next two games and hopefully going to Kvill with a shot at playing in the sec championship game...dreaming big!!

Conrad will be in the NFL regardless of how many catches, TDs he gets in his time here at Kentucky. The guy is a special kind of talented.
 

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Fun read on this thread. UK is playing much better but the reality is the acts have beaten 3 bad sec teams that will. Not make a bowl. Let's see how you do playing a better Georgia team and a much better Tenn team.
What happened when you (Otis) played a much better KENTUCKY team...if not for Boom and JoJo not getting to play the second half in '15 and a wide open dropped int in '14 the Cats are working on three straight.