Post-game interview...Riley really sounds like

[timnsun]

Big Bad Jim, losing is not just losing. We have lost 5 games by a combined 13 points. In just three of our 6 losses in 2004 we lost by a combined 111 points... Please stop posting if you are gonna say idiotic stuff like "losing is losing."

Just think about it before you respond. I don't want to have to point out any more of your stupidity.

 

[timnsun]

Big Bad Jim, losing is not just losing. We have lost 5 games by a combined 13 points. In just three of our 6 losses in 2004 we lost by a combined 111 points... Please stop posting if you are gonna say idiotic stuff like "losing is losing."

Just think about it before you respond. I don't want to have to point out any more of your stupidity.

Big Bad Jim, I would also say if you do post, at least back it up with some substance. And I don't mean win/loss record... how is this the worst of both callahan and pelini, making it worse than anything we have ever seen in our lifetimes? Substance here would help your argument, if you've got any.

 

[bigbadjim990]

Big Bad Jim, I would also say if you do post, at least back it up with some substance. And I don't mean win/loss record... how is this the worst of both callahan and pelini, making it worse than anything we have ever seen in our lifetimes? Substance here would help your argument, if you've got any.

OK, MR loses really pretty. How's that for substance. You get a participation trophy. Are you emotionally attached to MR? He sucks. Get back to me when he can win 2 in row.

 

[timnsun]

OK, MR loses really pretty. How's that for substance. You get a participation trophy. Are you emotionally attached to MR? He sucks. Get back to me when he can win 2 in row.

Idiot. I already stated He might not be the guy. I at least posted facts telling you Callahan was TERRIBLE, and all you can say blah blah blah participation trophy blah blah. Your post sucks because you have no substance. If you did, when I asked for it you wouldn't have any reason to get personal.

I gave you a chance, but you blew it. Moron.

 

[trentonfan]

He apparently didn't leave much talent at OSU as there record is 2-5.

 

[timnsun]

He apparently didn't leave much talent at OSU as there record is 2-5.

Wait, that can't be it, it's the coaching... Anderson sucks!

(did i do that right?)

 

[bigbadjim990]

Idiot. I already stated He might not be the guy. I at least posted facts telling you Callahan was TERRIBLE, and all you can say blah blah blah participation trophy blah blah. Your post sucks because you have no substance. If you did, when I asked for it you wouldn't have any reason to get personal.

I gave you a chance, but you blew it. Moron.

Stalk much?? You need another hobby our way to spend your time. Get some help. I don't need your approval to post my opinions or say what I think. I thought name calling was against board rules, but I have a feeling your "special" and the rules don't apply to you.

 

[rez dog 70]

I guess I would try to look at it from a player's perspective.. and if you put yourself in their shoes, how would you perceive things? That's admittedly difficult to do since we aren't actually players in his system.

The respect for the coach has to be earned. It is not just given to the guy because he has the title. You can't force guys to buy in.. it's Coach's job to earn that.

That is probably the big problem going on right now. Coach hasn't earned their respect yet.

That is on the coach, not the players.

You have no clue.

OK, MR loses really pretty. How's that for substance. You get a participation trophy. Are you emotionally attached to MR? He sucks. Get back to me when he can win 2 in row.

Maybe we could win two if our players wouldn't be content with "losing one more for the old coach". As Riley said in his post game, they'd be practicing this week and if anyone would like to show up and participate that would be great. You wanna talk about a shot across the bow! Wow!

 

[gobigredlands]

Idiot. I already stated He might not be the guy. I at least posted facts telling you Callahan was TERRIBLE, and all you can say blah blah blah participation trophy blah blah. Your post sucks because you have no substance. If you did, when I asked for it you wouldn't have any reason to get personal.

I gave you a chance, but you blew it. Moron.

Why does it matter if Callahan lost by a greater margin? Or Solich? Or Pelini for that matter?

The fact of the matter is Nebraska is 3-5.

And 4/5 of those losses have come to not good teams. In fact, those games shouldn't have even been close. Let alone so close that we're gloating by the margin of point in which we lost to those bad teams.

Is this what it's come to as fanbase? We should never be justifying losses to horrible and unranked teams. It's not like we played rOSU or Michigan State close but lost. The games we've lost should've never been in doubt nor should those teams have been in the position to win on a last second play.

 

[bigbadjim990]

You have no clue.


Maybe we could win two if our players wouldn't be content with "losing one more for the old coach". As Riley said in his post game, they'd be practicing this week and if anyone would like to show up and participate that would be great. You wanna talk about a shot across the bow! Wow!

Wow is right. It's going to be a long decade or 2.

 

[gobigredlands]

Wait, that can't be it, it's the coaching... Anderson sucks!

(did i do that right?)

Hard to win at Oregon State when the previous staff left the cupboard so bare.

 

[JHball]

You have no clue.


Maybe we could win two if our players wouldn't be content with "losing one more for the old coach". As Riley said in his post game, they'd be practicing this week and if anyone would like to show up and participate that would be great. You wanna talk about a shot across the bow! Wow!

#Mensa

 

[gobigredlands]

Wow is right. It's going to be a long decade or 2.

Trying to reason with Rover is akin to having a conversation with a box of hair. Don't be too hard on yourself.

 

[timnsun]

Stalk much?? You need another hobby our way to spend your time. Get some help. I don't need your approval to post my opinions or say what I think. I thought name calling was against board rules, but I have a feeling your "special" and the rules don't apply to you.

Asked for substance, never got it. Instead, got some cutesy stuff that I didn't appreciate. Sorry to hurt your feelings with the name calling.

The fact is, if you're gonna post this is the worst of both Pelini and Callahan, I expected more than just win/loss record. I asked for more than win/loss record. You still have not contributed anything to this post. This led me to the name calling.

Have your opinion. But don't be surprised if there is gonna be some push back.

 

[timnsun]

Why does it matter if Callahan lost by a greater margin? Or Solich? Or Pelini for that matter?

The fact of the matter is Nebraska is 3-5.

And 4/5 of those losses have come to not good teams. In fact, those games shouldn't have even been close. Let alone so close that we're gloating by the margin of point in which we lost to those bad teams.

Is this what it's come to as fanbase? We should never be justifying losses to horrible and unranked teams. It's not like we played rOSU or Michigan State close but lost. The games we've lost should've never been in doubt nor should those teams have been in the position to win on a last second play.

This was a direct response to the one who said Riley is worse than Callahan and Pelini combined. I asked for reasons why he would state that, and even gave evidence of Callahan's futility, and all I got back was "he sucks," or something like that.

Yeah, a loss is a loss, but I guarantee you if Riley was losing by 111 points over three games as opposed to 13 points over 5 games, people would be even worse than they are now, if that is even possible.

Again, I stated clearly this isn't blind support of our current coaches, I'm just not down with revisionist history that would state we were better under Callahan. Really? Why even go there? We sucked under him just as we suck under RIley. But we sucked far worse under Callahan, so don't even pretend otherwise.

 

[rez dog 70]

Trying to reason with Rover is akin to having a conversation with a box of hair. Don't be too hard on yourself.

I saw horrible coaching and his name is Mark Pelini. After Northwestern it's clear Riley needs to cut lose some players that don't want to be here.

 

[Harry Caray]

Wait, that can't be it, it's the coaching... Anderson sucks!

(did i do that right?)

Oregon State was 5-7 last year. We were 9-4. Big difference.

Riley left Oregon State because he knew the cupboard was bare and the media/fans were calling for Banker's head, and he wasn't willing to fire his best buddy. If Riley had won more games the last couple of years, he'd still be in Corvallis.

 

[rez dog 70]

The roaches are out and feeling it again.

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

You have no clue.


Maybe we could win two if our players wouldn't be content with "losing one more for the old coach". As Riley said in his post game, they'd be practicing this week and if anyone would like to show up and participate that would be great. You wanna talk about a shot across the bow! Wow!

So you think those words from coach qualify as something a leader would say?

You want to get into the foxhole with the guy that says that?

 

[rez dog 70]

So you think those words from coach qualify as something a leader would say?

You want to get into the foxhole with the guy that says that?

Riley has tried to soft play this enough. Time to get serious and lay down the law.

 

[bigbadjim990]

Asked for substance, never got it. Instead, got some cutesy stuff that I didn't appreciate. Sorry to hurt your feelings with the name calling.

The fact is, if you're gonna post this is the worst of both Pelini and Callahan, I expected more than just win/loss record. I asked for more than win/loss record. You still have not contributed anything to this post. This led me to the name calling.

Have your opinion. But don't be surprised if there is gonna be some push back.

The fact is your opinion doesn't matter to me. Your starting to give me that vibe that says "I've got bodies in my crawl space"

 

[timnsun]

The fact is your opinion doesn't matter to me. Your starting to give me that vibe that says "I've got bodies in my crawl space"

The fact of the matter is you have no facts to back up your opinion. I will no longer respond unless and until you come up with proof that Riley is worse than the worst of Callahan and the worst of Pelini.

The good news is, I can ignore you from here on out since you've got nothing. You're starting to give me the vibe that says, "I've got cobwebs in my brain."

 

[timnsun]

Oregon State was 5-7 last year. We were 9-4. Big difference.

Riley left Oregon State because he knew the cupboard was bare and the media/fans were calling for Banker's head, and he wasn't willing to fire his best buddy. If Riley had won more games the last couple of years, he'd still be in Corvallis.

Harry, thanks for coming with some substance! Maybe Big Bad Jim can learn something from this.

Seriously... this is a very valid point, and one I can't argue against.

 

[huskermidget]

a coach with absolutely no passion or intensity for his job. As much as anything, that would explain his past performance at OSU and now at NU:
3-8
5-6
8-5
7-5
5-6
10-4
9-4
9-4
8-5
5-7
3-9
9-4
7-6
5-7
3-5
96-85
Help me, where can you find optimism in that?

You do realize what OSU looked like before he got there right?

 

[SEMO_yogi]

You do realize what OSU looked like before he got there right?

Yes. You do realize what Nebraska will look like when he's finished with us, right?

 

[huskermidget]

Prior to MR taking over at OSU, going back to 1972, the number of wins per season for OSU was as follows:

2,2,3,1, 2, 2, 3, 1, 0, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 2, 4, 4, 1, 1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 2.

Then, in 1997 Riley took over and he went 5-6 by his second year. While that sounds bad by NU standards, one has to remember that it was the biggest win total in nearly 27 years at OSU. Then he goes to the NFL and comes back. After coming back he posts 8 winnings seasons between 2003 and 2014. And this also completely ignores the course MR put OSU on that led to decent success under Erickson (which Erickson quickly piddled away by year 3).

Again, not necessarily impressive in absolute numbers for an NU fan. However, people cannot be blind to context. I don't think many understand just how horrible OSU was before MR got there. OSU was basically K. State pre-Bill Snyder. Riley built them up and made them competitive. One has to wonder what would have happened had Riley not left in 1999.

The whole "he didn't have the players" line isn't BS. It is the truth.

That all said, I'm not completely sure he will have success here. My worry, however, isn't that he can't coach. My worry is that he will be too loyal to certain defensive coaches. I think the offense turns into a highly productive unit once he gets his QB in place. I'm not certain about the defense. However, given MR's track record we owe him a few years. I know people like to blabber on about his lack of titles and etc., but he took a horrible horrible program and made them relevant and competed for the Pac-10 title.

Is he perfect? Absolutely not. But can we please just stop dealing in rhetoric and stick with facts?

The other aspect that people at NU don't really get...mainly because we haven't had it in a long long time is elite QB play. That is how you win titles. You can still be "good" with high end defense and a solid running game but I challenge anyone to list a national title team (or even a conference winning team) that didn't have elite QB play. In this era, with the talent pool so evenly dispersed, you absolutely have to have it. We don't have that. That is the one area that I do trust MR in. He at least deserves the opportunity to run the ship with his QB. You give him an NFL-caliber QB (even a late round or FA type) and this season looks a whole lot different. Bo left the cupboard bare and that is compounded by moving to a new offensive system.

 

[huskermidget]

Yes. You do realize what Nebraska will look like when he's finished with us, right?

Um. No, I don't and neither do you. OSU's prior performance is actually factual. Your opinion about what NU will look like is your own speculation.

 

[SEMO_yogi]

Prior to MR taking over at OSU, going back to 1972, the number of wins per season for OSU was as follows:

2,2,3,1, 2, 2, 3, 1, 0, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 2, 4, 4, 1, 1, 1, 4, 4, 1, 2.

Then, in 1997 Riley took over and he went 5-6 by his second year. While that sounds bad by NU standards, one has to remember that it was the biggest win total in nearly 27 years at OSU. Then he goes to the NFL and comes back. After coming back he posts 8 winnings seasons between 2003 and 2014. And this also completely ignores the course MR put OSU on that led to decent success under Erickson (which Erickson quickly piddled away by year 3).

Again, not necessarily impressive in absolute numbers for an NU fan. However, people cannot be blind to context. I don't think many understand just how horrible OSU was before MR got there. OSU was basically K. State pre-Bill Snyder. Riley built them up and made them competitive. One has to wonder what would have happened had Riley not left in 1999.

The whole "he didn't have the players" line isn't BS. It is the truth.

That all said, I'm not completely sure he will have success here. My worry, however, isn't that he can't coach. My worry is that he will be too loyal to certain defensive coaches. I think the offense turns into a highly productive unit once he gets his QB in place. I'm not certain about the defense. However, given MR's track record we owe him a few years. I know people like to blabber on about his lack of titles and etc., but he took a horrible horrible program and made them relevant and competed for the Pac-10 title.

Is he perfect? Absolutely not. But can we please just stop dealing in rhetoric and stick with facts?

Fair enough...though I don't necessarily agree with you. It isn't like he was a miracle worker at OS. As late as four years ago he was 3-9 there. From the looks of things, he had a good run between '06 and '08 and other than that, his teams had a very pedestrian record.

While he may have marginally moved the needle at OS, I see very little in him or his record to suggest that he can lead this program to championships. That, my friend is on SE...the one I hold responsible for this situation.

 

[huskermidget]

Fair enough...though I don't necessarily agree with you. It isn't like he was a miracle worker at OS. As late as four years ago he was 3-9 there. From the looks of things, he had a good run between '06 and '08 and other than that, his teams had a very pedestrian record.

While he may have marginally moved the needle at OS, I see very little in him or his record to suggest that he can lead this program to championships. That, my friend is on SE...the one I hold responsible for this situation.

I just think it is too early to make that conclusion. I would argue that he did more than just marginally move the needle at OSU. Going from regularly having 0, 1, 2, and 3 wins to one where you are regularly going to bowls, occasionally in the hunt for a conference title and 4 times winning more than 8 games (ignoring the Erickson wins) seems more than marginal.

We'll see how it pans out. I will agree that if this goes to hell it is on SE.