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bbnkat02

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Nov 14, 2017
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I LOVE the warrior in Toppin. I want more.

That kid is going to posterize somebody and I hope he stares them down when he does it. Technical be damned. Let them know who’s boss and that UK is to be feared again. Put the fear of God in these teams this year.
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
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He was getting close to automatic just above the FT and yes that will be a huge boon to us and his draft stock.

If he can hit a few threes here and there the NBA “gurus” will have a slobber fest over him.
Yeah I love his FT jumper.
 
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Jan 3, 2003
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Cal doesn’t even like our guards to shoot 3's, if we're going to see any of our 4's or 5's shooting 3's, it would take Cal getting ejected.

I'm fine with it as long as Cal puts a hold on our guys shooting from one step inside the 3 point line. That’s the worst shot in basketball.
Just because you don't like Calipari (which is fine), don't just make stuff up to try and prove a point. I'm pretty sure we've all heard him go "shoooot" at times with a guy open behind the 3-pt line. Isn't that (shooot) and "ruuun" being his offense the running joke?

And the worst shot in basketball is one you can't make (often). Everyone (nearly) as they get further from the rim, their % will go down (given enough attempts). And often you will see a distance where that % drops off dramatically. For some guys, that point may be just a step inside the line. Probably not many, but for Brooks it certainly was, actually maybe 2 steps for him.
 
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I agree, but the problem is, if he misses, someone needs to get the long rebound, or it'll be a runout.

I'm thinking Oscar will only take one or two per game. If he hits one, ir both, take another one. That would open the paint right up.
Agree. This is why I think his rebounding numbers go down. Well that, and, is it even possible they could go up, he must be near the rebound ceiling.
So I don't mind him flashing out there, if he's open. Or an occasional pick & pop. But his true value is on the offensive glass.
 

bucsrule8872

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I remember Cal talking about Patterson shortly after finding out he was coming back. He said he wanted Patterson to play the 4 and work on his range, but when the game was on the line and they needed easy buckets and rebounds he wanted him close to the basket. I think it’s the same with Tshiebwe, except he doesn’t have Cousins down low to cover for him when he is 20 feet from the basket.

So, Cal should use him a lot in ball screens and let him occasionally pop out to the top of the key for an easy 3. Maybe once or twice a game. It would loosen up the defense a bit, pull his man away from the basket and help Wallace or Livingston or Wheeler be able to get to the rim. It would also help him get a step on his man when he rolled to the basket. Just has to hit one occasionally to plant that seed and make the defense react just a little to get an extra step. It’s little things like that which helps players and gives them a slight advantage. It’s those little things that get you wins.
 
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Couldn’t help but notice Wheeler driving and getting swatted by Adou. I am really trying to get excited for this team, but having a 5’8” lead guard is still my main concern. I hope the kid can really change his game to be a drive and kick only, unless he has a wide open drive to the lane or wide open jumper. Plain and simple he isn’t going to grow and can’t take contested shots on a regular basis. On a positive note, I’m feeling more and more confident we have all the other pieces to be special!

Well.....for starters....the play you're talking about wasn't a shot, he was trying to lob it at the rim for Toppin and the pass got deflected.

Wheeler led the SEC in assists the past 2 seasons, I don't think he needs to learn how to drive and kick.
 

EliteBlue

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They definitely pass the look-test to be a much better defensive team than last season.

I pointed out after the season opener against Duke that Trevor Keels, an 18-year-old freshman guard, was more physically imposing than anyone on our team other than Oscar. Now, we've got a couple freshmen guards that look like men in Livingston and Wallace, two athletic freaks at the 4 and the best center in the country. Hopefully Thiero can at least be a defensive spark off the bench. No clue what to expect from that guy.
This. We have been lacking the grown man physicality the last couple years. 2017 was the last year we really had developed bodies across the board. In the early years we had guys with NBA ready bodies and not just "potential". Bledsoe, Wall, Jones, Lyles, Twins, etc....hell, Dakari Johnson and Daniel Orton were bench guys for us. They would have been 30+ min guys since 2015
 
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kyjeff1

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Just because you don't like Calipari (which is fine), don't just make stuff up to try and prove a point. I'm pretty sure we've all heard him go "shoooot" at times with a guy open behind the 3-pt line. Isn't that (shooot) and "ruuun" being his offense the running joke?

And the worst shot in basketball is one you can't make (often). Everyone (nearly) as they get further from the rim, their % will go down (given enough attempts). And often you will see a distance where that % drops off dramatically. For some guys, that point may be just a step inside the line. Probably not many, but for Brooks it certainly was, actually maybe 2 steps for him.
Yeah, Cal yells "shoot", but he doesn't do that with his 5's and you’re out of your mind if you think he likes seeing his teams shoot 3's. He would rather shoot 18 footers than 3's.
Just because he's yelling "shoooot" doesn’t mean he’s telling them to shoot 3's. I don't know why you think the word "shoooot" automatically translates to "shoot 3's now".
His teams focus on getting the ball into the paint, 1985 style. Thats why you see most games his teams only shoot between 10 and 15 threes. That’s putrid in todays game.
 
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akaukswoosh

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I just hope he doesn’t go overboard with the 3’s. One or two attempts per game off Pick and Pop action will suffice. Keep your rebounding magnet hands close to the basket most of the time.
I don’t expect that. Wheeler is the one I worry about going overboard.
 
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Yeah, Cal yells "shoot", but he doesn't do that with his 5's and you’re out of your mind if you think he likes seeing his teams shoot 3's. He would rather shoot 18 footers than 3's.
Just because he's yelling "shoooot" doesn’t mean he’s telling them to shoot 3's. I don't know why you think the word "shoooot" automatically translates to "shoot 3's now".
His teams focus on getting the ball into the paint, 1985 style. Thats why you see most games his teams only shoot between 10 and 15 threes. That’s putrid in todays game.
You are plain stupid if you think he would rather his team shoot 18' than 3's. Now maybe there is/was a specific guy (Brooks) that was the case, but in general, NO.
 
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gbl97

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Mar 12, 2002
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Oscar offensive rebounds 25% of our misses. So every Oscar 3 is a missed opportunity for an offensive rebound.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
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You are plain stupid if you think he would rather his team shoot 18' than 3's. Now maybe there is/was a specific guy (Brooks) that was the case, but in general, NO.
Your problem is, you buy the **** Cal sells. The biggest issue with that is he sells different **** every year.
Remember "I can't hide you"? That was a good one. Turns out, he can hide you.
Fact is, with the exception of the 2011 team, Cal's teams don't shoot but 10-15 threes a game. Heck, recently, UK went a full game… twice without hitting a single 3 pointer and Cal saw no problem with it.
His whole schtick on offense is to feed the post and if that doesn't work, he has his guards feed the post and if that doesn't work… you get the point.
This has been an ongoing problem since Cal got here. He doesn't prioritize the 3 point shot anywhere near enough.
 
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Your problem is, you buy the **** Cal sells. The biggest issue with that is he sells different **** every year.
Remember "I can't hide you"? That was a good one. Turns out, he can hide you.
Fact is, with the exception of the 2011 team, Cal's teams don't shoot but 10-15 threes a game. Heck, recently, UK went a full game… twice without hitting a single 3 pointer and Cal saw no problem with it.
His whole schtick on offense is to feed the post and if that doesn't work, he has his guards feed the post and if that doesn't work… you get the point.
This has been an ongoing problem since Cal got here. He doesn't prioritize the 3 point shot anywhere near enough.
Reminds of WV in 2010...trading 3s for 2s
 
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bbanks81

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Well.....for starters....the play you're talking about wasn't a shot, he was trying to lob it at the rim for Toppin and the pass got deflected.

Wheeler led the SEC in assists the past 2 seasons, I don't think he needs to learn how to drive and kick.
Oh were you at practice? Want to know how many teams have won a title with a 5’8” leads guard? Look it up
 

STL_Cat

Heisman
Dec 4, 2011
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Wheeler's height really doesn't bother me. It's his propensity to get out of control and turn the ball over at the most inopportune times that scares me.
 

bbnkat02

Heisman
Nov 14, 2017
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It will be Granddaddy Oscar this year. Ah….Senior Day for him is going to be special. He will get a Big standing O.

Question is do we retire his jersey at the end of the year?
 

Ron Mehico

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Jan 4, 2008
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It will be Granddaddy Oscar this year. Ah….Senior Day for him is going to be special. He will get a Big standing O.

Question is do we retire his jersey at the end of the year?
Doesn’t he have a year of eligibility left? Couldn’t he technically still have another year if his stock doesn’t drastically improve?
 

bbnkat02

Heisman
Nov 14, 2017
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Doesn’t he have a year of eligibility left? Couldn’t he technically still have another year if his stock doesn’t drastically improve?

Technically. But I don’t see it happening. Unless he doesn’t get an offer that is just better than his NIL stuff (which is still in limbo). We will lose Oscar primarily thanks to federal law.
 

UKrazycat2_rivals

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#0 Jacob Toppin

#1 CJ Fredrick

#2 Sahvir Wheeler

#3 Adou Thiero

#4 Daimion Collins

#12 Antonio Reeves

#14 Brenan Canada

#22 Cason Wallace

#24 Chris Livingston

#25 Kareem Watkins

#34 Oscar Tshiebwe

#55 Lance Ware

Not sure what numbers Walker Horn and Grant Darbyshire are wearing. I thought it was #20 for Horn and #13 for Darbyshire but not positive of that.

I wanna be just like you and @Smashcat when I get big. Thanks for everything you both do. 😻