Brown will win at least 9 games next year and will have us competing for Big 12 Championship within the next 2- 3 years,
Prediction
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Could happen.
I think if the issues were defense or QB and not OLine you would be right but OL takes times to develop.
Could happen sometime next year when all clicks in but without it happening this year and your tough schedule I say 7
I think if the issues were defense or QB and not OLine you would be right but OL takes times to develop.
Could happen sometime next year when all clicks in but without it happening this year and your tough schedule I say 7
I said 5-7 this year, with an optimistic shot at 8. With a win over TCU I would be within my mark. With a lucky break here or there against Baylor and Ok State, it could have been the higher end of the mark, but it didn’t go that way.
Next year I say possible wins (which include metrics such as location of game, returning starters and performances this year) could be:
- Florida State (they have talent, coaching will determine this one)
- Eastern Kentucky (mortal lock for the win)
- Maryland (in Morgantown, Maryland is not good)
- Kansas State (in Morgantown, should make it 5 in a row but a tough out nonetheless)
- Texas Tech (Everything that could have gone wrong in the first half this year did, WVU has overall better talent, this game will be circled by WVU)
- TCU (tough call on this one until I see them play this year, but I give the edge to WVU in Morgantown)
- Kansas (in Morgantown... even their basketball team struggles in Morgantown... it’s Kansas)
- Baylor ( don’t think we will see a repeat performance of this years version of Baylor next season, in Morgantown could make the difference, and this game too will be circled)
- Iowa State (I don’t believe Campbell will be in Ames next season, and eventually ISU is gonna be ISU)
Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are always gonna have enough talent to beat you, so those are games I think are winnable in a given year, Oklahoma more-so than usual next year because they don’t have a set QB yet, but they are still Oklahoma... and Texas and Oklahoma State.
It could all blow up in my face, but I do believe there will be improvement in the win/loss column next year.
I will say 7-9 wins, give or take a bowl game.
Jimbo wanted nothing to do with Trickett after Florida State
His OLine was a mess. I don't know if it was all Trickett but they had issues.
Both Baylor and Iowa State return QBs
I don't know returning starters for all the teams.
I just think a 5 win turnaround with JUCO OL will be hard.
The chance that you find 2-3 JUCO OL ready to play in the Big 12 is slim.
I do think you could start to see a turnaround next year and could finish strong.
I don’t see R Trickett as a fit for this offense. Trickett’s lines did more zone blocking with angles and leverage. This offense is more about power and sustained blocking. There are also plays where our guards were pulling. More like Biedenbaugh/Crook lines. It takes a more mature and powerful lineman in the new scheme to make a push. Loved Trickett, just don’t think he’s a fit for us now.
I'll predict that he will field a better team next year than this year. Outside of that who knows. Brown's approach to developing players and focusing on fundamentals is encouraging. I think we could be a bit more improved in the strength and conditioning department. Overall, I think he has the right approach to building a foundation. Let's see if he can build an ivory tower on top of it. Beats the old coach's method of trying to build the ivory tower first.
With the obvious trrrd in the punch bowl (OL), I feel like we got better at the other positions as the year went on. Am pretty happy with the DBs an DLs and even WRs (specially Campbell, Esdale & Jennings). With a bit more luck we could have gotten W’s over Baylor and Okla St. just really don’t know if we can expedite an OL. God knows we need to.
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That is why I think the games being in Morgantown will be significant, plus we will have a returning QB and the coaching staff will have an off-season with the team where they aren’t teaching the team how they want their offseason to go. The process is established, so now they can focus on the actual work. Everyone knows everyone now, unlike last offseason when everyone was trying to figure out who each other were.
As for Baylor, in Waco with a team that is playing for the conference championship, they beat us by 3. We had 347 sacks against their offensive line. If we generate any kind of offense in that game, we win. But, we didn’t and we didn’t.
I am not worried about Baylor. We match up well with them and we should be better next year. Not sure they are gonna improve much over this year. We have nothing but room for improvement.
As for ISU, they were only up by 7 going into the 4th, and it was tied at the end of 2. We did more to blow the game up for ISU in the 4th than they did.
We might lose to both schools next year, but we will have an experienced set of receivers and 2 QBs with starting experience and a more experienced defense, on top of playing in Morgantown, so I think the odds will favor us next year.
WHOA!!! That's just not a fair prediction. I hope to hell you are right BUT it's only his second year. I have no doubt we'll get there but expecting it in second might be a little premature IMHO
Baylor and Iowa State are the two most physical teams in the Big 12 this year
Players leave and sometimes programs take a drop but their level may take Neal Brown another year to reach.
Maybe Matt Rhule goes to the Washington Redskins. Who knows right now. He could be looking towards the NFL.
Matt Campbell may end up at Florida St. Rumor there is mutual interest
As of right now both coaches are still there and you don't expect them to drop until the second year after a coach leaves
I hope your wrong and he gets the O line figured out but it usually does take a couple years to fix an O line.
Just finding 2 linemen would be a big help in the run game. If you can't use any of the guys from this year it's not going to help much. You gotta hope those you guys that play will improve. It makes it tougher when you bring in JC guys because it will take that much longer to build from the ground up. If things stay the same it could take 3 years possibly 4.
Let's hope the ones we have can improve greatly.
Let’s be honest, you are going to poor mouth WVU No matter what the circumstances.
That out of the way...
Neither one “out-physicalled” WVU, so if they are the barometer for toughness in the B12, the conference really is in trouble, and the path to redemption for WVU will be even easier.
Just a couple of comments. Don’t think we got 347 sacks on Baylor. Don’t think we will have 2 experienced QBs next year. It would surprise me if AK did not portal upon loosing the QB battle to Doege. Which I already think has happened.
347 was an exaggerated way of saying we got a lot, like 8 or so, but please take me literal when clearly everyone could see it was an exaggeration aimed at making a point.
Am I.
Bad mouthing is different than being critical.
There are issues here. The issues just don't disappear after one off-season because they are OLine issues
WVU has been pushed around the majority of the year.
If you don't think so it shows that you don't want to exist in the current reality of WVU Football.
But things should be changing because Neal Brown emphasizes playing a certain way.
One of the reasons why this team struggled.
But once he can get an OLine ready WVU can lean on teams and push them off the LOS.
Here
Look at the rushing yards
Baylor vs WVU
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=401112080
Iowa St vs WVU
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=401112089
Look at the rushing yards
Baylor vs WVU
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=401112080
Iowa St vs WVU
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=401112089
I think we will win 7-8 games next year. The O line will be the weakest part of the team just like this year but they will be more experienced. If brown and staff are selecting the right personal then I think we could see a major up tick in 2021.
9 wins is possible but not probable. 7-8 wins is the most likely scenario but there are still some problems we must overcome.
First, offensive line play. We have to develop a multi-dimensional offense. The good part is there is talent there but this year it was just physically weak. Another 10 months in the weight room should make a world of difference. The bad part is we will still have a young offensive line, have to replace both starting tackles, and any injuries could put us in the same boat we are in this year.
Second, we still don't have a true middle linebacker and we lose both starting corners. Other things are there but they are more easily fixed; these two problems will determine most which direction the defense goes next year. The good was there was plenty of experience developed with all the injuries, ejections, etc. this year.
First, offensive line play. We have to develop a multi-dimensional offense. The good part is there is talent there but this year it was just physically weak. Another 10 months in the weight room should make a world of difference. The bad part is we will still have a young offensive line, have to replace both starting tackles, and any injuries could put us in the same boat we are in this year.
Second, we still don't have a true middle linebacker and we lose both starting corners. Other things are there but they are more easily fixed; these two problems will determine most which direction the defense goes next year. The good was there was plenty of experience developed with all the injuries, ejections, etc. this year.