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bushrod1965 said:
That $38,000 a year starting salary is really da bomb when you’re sitting on $80,000 of student loan debt. If you want a real clue on how enticing it is, talk to an experienced principal about filling positions. Ten years ago, there were 30-40 qualified applicants for every posted teaching position. Fast forward to today, after screening out unqualified applicants, it’s difficult to fill many positions. And when you do, the attrition rate is greater than 50% after five years.

After spending 30 plus years in private sector work closely tied to the public education community, I’ll attest that the “war on public education” has taken its toll. If your end goal is to do away with it, congrats, you’re getting closer to it daily.
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Spending 30 years in the private sector working closely tied to public education implies that you’re part of the problem.

If more public money went directly to public education instead of the private sectors leaches, like you - who found an easy way to get paid with reliable taxpayer-funded budgets year after year - the problems caused by money wouldn’t be nearly as bad (or maybe even exist). How much are you bastards still you charging for those text books of basic Wikipedia-provided knowledge at this point?

(And if you’re involved in education app development, btw: GFY!)

Kentucky’s teachers are paid 8th most nationally when adjusted for cost of living. Nobody got “drafted” into being a teacher and was forced to take student loans.

And teaching is one of the holdover “M-R-S” degrees that attracts women who like teaching kids, need a major, and want to find a husband at college. Then when they get married and/or have kids, they call it quits. Of course there’s attrition.
 
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wildcatsboston1984 said:
Because people don’t get paid **** to work in call centers. Plus the job is awful.
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Enterprise
Mortgage hawks
Banks
Insurance
Trade Apprentices
Factories
UPS
...and on and on.

Young people have unrealistic expectations pumped into their brains by guidance counselors and college recruiters. Entry level jobs typically aren't glamorous, you make **** money, and they job hop like crazy.

This is the same everywhere. This whole "woe is we" teacher ******** is just the worst. Like their problems only exist in their little bubble. They have no problem forcing factory workers, Amazon workers, truck drivers, grocery workers, Starbucks employees, etc to work overtime during a scary pandemic, but they need more than herd immunity and "like things are so f*cking hard out there". These are all issues real people deal with everyday and don't ***** about.

Find somewhere else to whine. We're out of f*cks to give.
 
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Personally, I dont think a 4 year college degree should be required to teach middle school (for NY).. or maybe better put, nothing about a college degree makes a teacher more qualified in my eyes.

In fact, I'd almost rather my kids NOT have a teacher who spent 4 to 5 years at Yale being brainwashed..
 
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anthonys735 said:
Can't imagine why anyone would think Unions and Politicians are responsible for schools being closed. Lol. When Gavin Newsome is begging someone to open up, we know we're past the point of no return.



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Just take a look at how one of these replies paints it....you can see where they don’t include SD in the “high risk” things like choir.....is it regular choir or SD choir? My kids private school has run like a damn champ this entire year. Give me a break.

And do not get me started on sports....I coached a full season of tackle football (no cases) and two simultaneous basketball leagues school/Mid America with zero cases. Championship of the school league this Saturday in which we’re going to take the other team to pound town, but I digress. Literally damaging kids’ current and future without this stuff. Shake Chad’s damn head.

Glad FCPS may give it a try....will believe when I see...but if they don’t have their heart in it and run for the hills at the first case.....WHICH IS GOING TO HAPPEN.....it’s going to be set back even further. Gotta do it, but gotta do it with full intentions of winning.

I don’t think that’s going to happen but inhope
I’m wrong.
 
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Nobody else is allowed to whine. Solid Paddock material there.
 
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LowerLevelSeatA said:
At the end of our rope with public schools like everyone else. We have been fortunate with both sets of parents living close by so we never had the expense of daycare. Now looking at private schools and seeing the sticker shock. So, is there any tax break if you have the expense of private school. Have one kid elementary age and one middle school. I can’t imagine paying that monthly private school bill, but if they aren’t in person by August, I think we have to find a way to have the $ for private schools.
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Didn’t read whole thread, but you can use 529 funds for private education.

Growth in 529 plans is non-taxable, so if you have a longer horizon (5+ years), you could benefit from this strategy, even if you had not previously planned for this.

Related, if your state provides any type of tax credit/deduction for investing in a 529, you can invest in a 529, take the tax credit/deduction year-end, and then immediately pull the money out for education expenses. This is probably not a huge amount, but it’s right there for the taking, nonetheless.
 
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There is an O. Henry level of irony about the weird narrative from teacher's unions about lockdowns being somehow linked to systemic racism, etc., especially in Louisville and Lexington where poor kids are likelier to be black than the rest of Kentucky.

When this is over, you're going to see unbelievable disparity between the haves and have nots. It will be staggering and a generational shift.

I'm a lawyer who often takes appointments in child neglect and abuse cases to represent both the accused parents and the children involved. Schools were the leading reliable source for reports of child neglect and abuse (there is a whole lot of baby mama drama involved in the anonymous reporting hotline.).

There is a shockingly large swath of the population that can barely be trusted to not snort meth off their toddlers' (invariably plural) heads under the best of circumstances. Now those kids will have been left in those environments for more than a year with nothing to do but turn on a laptop enough to keep the police from showing up while White Wayne and his wife have given their kids a culinary tour of the world and taught them graduate level mathematics.

The perversity of the narrative coming from teachers' unions versus the effects of their actions would be hilarious if it was not so horrifically sad.
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I can’t like this post enough. Still, the vast majority of the problems of the public schools start with the PUBLIC, not the teachers. I am 100% for free birth control for every woman under 25.
 
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Its literally a completely different standard for teachers than any other job - it’s like they’ve been given god like status with unyielding power. I’ve never seen anything like it.
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Come on now. Unions have power.
 
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Joey Rupption said:
Spending 30 years in the private sector working closely tied to public education implies that you’re part of the problem.

If more public money went directly to public education instead of the private sectors leaches, like you - who found an easy way to get paid with reliable taxpayer-funded budgets year after year - the problems caused by money wouldn’t be nearly as bad (or maybe even exist). How much are you bastards still you charging for those text books of basic Wikipedia-provided knowledge at this point?

(And if you’re involved in education app development, btw: GFY!)

Kentucky’s teachers are paid 8th most nationally when adjusted for cost of living. Nobody got “drafted” into being a teacher and was forced to take student loans.

And teaching is one of the holdover “M-R-S” degrees that attracts women who like teaching kids, need a major, and want to find a husband at college. Then when they get married and/or have kids, they call it quits. Of course there’s attrition.
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Want to find a husband at college. Lol. 🙀
 
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Fairly certain we can bury the Union argument. This explains what's happening. They're terrified.

Asked why Chicago’s teachers would be threatening to strike now, President Biden’s chief of staff, Ron Klain, answered, “money.” Give Mr. Klain an A-plus for honesty.

Jesus..

Data released this week show enrollment in California’s K-12 public schools has dropped by 155,000 students, a record. Enrollment in New York City is down 43,000, and about 25% of schools have lost 10% or more of their enrollment. In Virginia, it’s down 45,000 students. Enrollments have fallen in Texas, notably in progressive Austin, down nearly 7%.

 
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That was a great WSJ column. The actions by the teachers' unions are short-sighted and deplorable, designed to maximize leverage and protect currently employed teachers, with little regard for the long-term damage to public schools and the people who will want to be public school teachers in the future. It is reminiscent of the UAW's actions in the 70's and 80's that led (in part) to the wrecking of the American auto industry.

People in management - whether they are CEO's or (in public sector case) elected officials, usually have little appetite for labor battles. And, often (particularly as we have seen the "pro teacher" takes in the media over the years) people are on the sides of the unions. Governors who have stood up to public sector unions in recent years have lost reelection bids. So, management often gives in to labor demands and "kicks the can down the road" for the next CEO/elected official to deal with. In the auto industry, that meant agreeing to exorbitant demands for wage and benefit increases that were unsustainable.

Having said that, none of this suggests or is evidence of some type of "conspiracy" led by the Democratic party to "control" students. I don't know why it is easier to accept conspiracy theory explanations than it is to just understand that greed and power usually controls these things.
 
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So what are the best choices in Lexington?
Lexington Christian, Lexington Catholic, Sayre?
 
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80 Proof said:
Average starting salary in Kentucky for a college grad is under $30k for 250 days a year of work. Good thing no one other than teachers have to deal with student loans.
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no dog in the fight but a college graduate in KY is going to make $15/hr?
 
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High school:
-sayre is 25k
-catholic is 12.5k

Haven't looked into LCA.
 
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AVG Starting salary.
1. University of Kentucky - $43,800.
2. Northern Kentucky University - $42,300.
3. University of Louisville - $42,200
4. Thomas More College - $41,300.
5. Bellarmine University - $40,700
6. Eastern Kentucky University - $39,300
7. Western Kentucky University - $39,200
8. University of Phoenix-Louisville - $37,900. However, the school is currently under a federal investigation.
9. Sullivan University - $37,600
10. Transylvania University - $29,865
 
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When I was at Manhattan College, there were a few private k-12 schools near by. The one I went to growing up was about $8k a year, and I knew these would be a heck of a lot more.

Just googled both Fieldston and Horace Mann.. $55,000 a year. For 2nd grade.
 
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anthonys735 said:
Believe they require you to be affiliated with a church to enroll.

CTK/Lex Cath did not.

Sayre, Lexington School are crazy expensive.
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That’s not exactly true. You don’t have to be a member of any church but they do you require you to be a believer and want recommendations from pastors, etc. Which is much easier if you go to church regularly.

I wonder when Catholic passed LCA for costs? When my kids were at LCA it was a little more than LC but they were always pretty similar.

But there are no cheap options for Lexington private schools. My kids first years at UK cost about the same in tuition as their last year at LCA.
 
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I think looking at LCA for 6th grade in the fall was going to run close to $13k. It goes up a few hundred each year thereafter.

Sayre was close to $25k and Lexington School only goes to 8th grade, maybe, but they’re equally as expensive. I haven’t researched Lex Cath.
 
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LCA specifically told us, in August, since we weren't members of a church they wouldn't accept our kid. CTK didn't make those requirements. We reached out to all the local schools once we saw the writing on the wall.
 
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Lexington Christian 8th grade is $12,186.
They are only in person 2 days a week.
 
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anthonys735 said:
LCA specifically told us, in August, since we weren't members of a church they wouldn't accept our kid. CTK didn't make those requirements. We reached out to all the local schools once we saw the writing on the wall.
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Could have changed. We enrolled our first kid in 2002. Sorry for the misinformation.
 
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