Do they work out a deal prior to tickets going on sale and agree to buy x number of tickets. It looks like they have around 650 tickets for every home game. My questions is why are we selling tickets to Stub Hub when there is supposed to be a waiting list for season tickets this year. I guess that there could be a multi yearcontract that we have to honor which I could understand.
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Do they work out a deal prior to tickets going on sale and agree to buy x number of tickets. It looks like they have around 650 tickets for every home game. My questions is why are we selling tickets to Stub Hub when there is supposed to be a waiting list for season tickets this year. I guess that there could be a multi yearcontract that we have to honor which I could understand.
I'm not sure and without looking, couldn't it just be previous season ticket holders putting theirs up early?
so my guess would also be that it's season ticket holders who have renewed their seats and know where they'll be located, but they also know of certain games they won't be able to make so they're listing them on SH. I hate the way that SH charges Buyer/Seller fees, but it really is one of the easiest ways to get rid of tickets and make a little $$$ at the same time.
None of the above. Most of those tickets are purchased by "ticket brokers" who renew a huge lot of season tickets every year with the intent to make a profit. I have a friend who works for a professional sports team and almost got in deep water when he first started working there when he knew that some guy was getting people to buy huge lots of tickets under their name and giving them to him.
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Hello Everybody!
This is Emilee from the Executive Customer Care Team at StubHub.com. I was reviewing all of these posts and would like to offer some clarification.
StubHub does not purchase any inventory that we then list for sale. StubHub is a completely open marketplace that works much like eBay, where fans will buy and sell tickets at market value. Tickets will appear on StubHub before any box-office "on-sale" date for a mix of all answers shown. There are many ticket brokers who will post their inventory on our website, however, a large percentage of the tickets you see are coming from individuals who either have a season account and already know their future seat location, or from a fan who is already a member of an artist's fan club, where they will have access to premium tickets even before the venue offers a public "pre-sale" for the event.
For additional information on how StubHub works, please visit http://www.stubhub.com/how-stubhub-works/.
I hope this helps to clarify where the tickets listed on StubHub are coming from!
Emilee
Executive Customer Care Team
StubHub.com
This is Emilee from the Executive Customer Care Team at StubHub.com. I was reviewing all of these posts and would like to offer some clarification.
StubHub does not purchase any inventory that we then list for sale. StubHub is a completely open marketplace that works much like eBay, where fans will buy and sell tickets at market value. Tickets will appear on StubHub before any box-office "on-sale" date for a mix of all answers shown. There are many ticket brokers who will post their inventory on our website, however, a large percentage of the tickets you see are coming from individuals who either have a season account and already know their future seat location, or from a fan who is already a member of an artist's fan club, where they will have access to premium tickets even before the venue offers a public "pre-sale" for the event.
For additional information on how StubHub works, please visit http://www.stubhub.com/how-stubhub-works/.
I hope this helps to clarify where the tickets listed on StubHub are coming from!
Emilee
Executive Customer Care Team
StubHub.com
Thus covering *** using market value, which is apparently what any person is willing to pay for any given ticket, no matter how ridiculous. I have season tickets and had opposing *** clowns sitting behind me almost every game. Apparently our fans are making profit by buying season tickets and selling them to opposing fans on stub hub.
1. Jimmy Buffet concert last year: click on the buy ticket button right as they go on sale (for free), told my wait is 1 minute, then 5, then 15, then after half an hour am told all tickets are sold out. Then the 'free' tix are immediately on StubHub for $300. Their system either intentionally lets scalpers jump the line, or is hacked and they're too incompetent to fix it.
2. Am going to a local concert in a couple weeks. Tix are $10. Ticketmaster charges a $9 fee, which i can't avoid even though i'm not using TicketMaster to buy the tix, i'm actually buying them at the venue.
my point really only relates to #1. When TicketMaster gives scalpers every opportunity to always get the tickets first, and then StubHub gives them the means to widely distribute and profit on those tickets, then it's us who get screwed. I see your point though that if someone is willing to buy it then it's not overpriced. But that's wrong when the seats are alumni priority seats.
2. Am going to a local concert in a couple weeks. Tix are $10. Ticketmaster charges a $9 fee, which i can't avoid even though i'm not using TicketMaster to buy the tix, i'm actually buying them at the venue.
my point really only relates to #1. When TicketMaster gives scalpers every opportunity to always get the tickets first, and then StubHub gives them the means to widely distribute and profit on those tickets, then it's us who get screwed. I see your point though that if someone is willing to buy it then it's not overpriced. But that's wrong when the seats are alumni priority seats.
It's completely legal in many instances. The state of Mississippi is pretty black in white in regards to collegiate events(illegal to sell for more than face value), but doing so is completely legal in many other states. In fact, several states even encourage you to use sites like Stubhub due to the buyer guarantee that it offers.
All that said, I think that people get way too bent out of shape over this stuff. I don't deny that it's annoying as hell when you're trying to enjoy a home game and there's some loud LSU or UT fan a few people away from you, but this didn't all start with Stubhub. If there's a time where I look up at the priority sections and they're 20% filled with opposing fans, I'll start to get angry. Until then, it's really not that big of a deal for me or at the very least, it's no different than it has been for 20 years.
All that said, I think that people get way too bent out of shape over this stuff. I don't deny that it's annoying as hell when you're trying to enjoy a home game and there's some loud LSU or UT fan a few people away from you, but this didn't all start with Stubhub. If there's a time where I look up at the priority sections and they're 20% filled with opposing fans, I'll start to get angry. Until then, it's really not that big of a deal for me or at the very least, it's no different than it has been for 20 years.
is that Ticketmaster has essentially screwed casual fans in an attempt to solve your #1 problem. Over the last 2-3 years, Ticketmaster has gone crazy with presale events and according to an article I read not long ago, the intent was to give "true" fans the ability to buy tickets early by using a code that they received from fanmail, an artist website, or sometimes even Ticketmaster themselves. Presales are nothing new, but the point was that they have exploded recently and the idea was that only real fans of the artists would have access to these code words, and they could buy seats before they went on sale to the general public.
Anyway, as you can guess, scalpers took no time in signing up for artist websites and there are actually pay sites now that offer concert presale passwords for a monthly subscription fee. The bottom line is that now that scalpers have easy access to presale tickets, they're all being bought up before the casual fan even has a chance to buy one when they go on sale to the general public. In other words, by the time you get up on a Saturday morning to buy a ticket as soon as they go on sale, 70% of them are probably already gone. There are a lot of things that suck about the industry, but it's a gigantic one and everyone wants a piece of the pie.
Anyway, as you can guess, scalpers took no time in signing up for artist websites and there are actually pay sites now that offer concert presale passwords for a monthly subscription fee. The bottom line is that now that scalpers have easy access to presale tickets, they're all being bought up before the casual fan even has a chance to buy one when they go on sale to the general public. In other words, by the time you get up on a Saturday morning to buy a ticket as soon as they go on sale, 70% of them are probably already gone. There are a lot of things that suck about the industry, but it's a gigantic one and everyone wants a piece of the pie.
How many alumni are only continuing to purchase their season tickets because they can resell them on StubHub? Maybe they only go to a game or two, and the cost is only doable as long as they can easily resell the other tix?In other words, how many alumni are being screwed out of a higher priority?
I guess the only way to do itdifferent would be for tickets to have the recipients name printed on them, and only that person can use the ticket. Then at some point no-show seats are filled from those on stand-by. But that would be logistically difficult (though not too difficult with modern technology), and offers no benefits to the university.
Or maybe a tax, payable at the gate or box office, if you are not the person whose name is printed on the ticket. Actually, that's a way better idea.
I guess the only way to do itdifferent would be for tickets to have the recipients name printed on them, and only that person can use the ticket. Then at some point no-show seats are filled from those on stand-by. But that would be logistically difficult (though not too difficult with modern technology), and offers no benefits to the university.
Or maybe a tax, payable at the gate or box office, if you are not the person whose name is printed on the ticket. Actually, that's a way better idea.
Sometimes the tickets just aren't available via regular outlets. One example for me-- purchasing tickets to see a game at old Yankee Stadium in its last season in 2008.
that purchase season tickets for the sole reason of selling them on Stubhub(at least not in the priority sections). However, I do think there are plenty that buy season tickets knowing that they're going to have to miss a game or two and then sell those on Stubhub. In fact, I'm one of them if I don't have a friend/family member that can use my tix.
Printing the name on the tickets is a good idea and one that's been used before, but it's a nightmare for the facility and event staff. They tried to do this a couple years ago for a Hannah Montana tour and the end result was thousands of people being denied entry due to buying a scalped ticket. You can only imagine how this went over at the venues as they're trying to explain to hundreds of 13-year-old girls and dads that she won't be able to get in after her dad spent $2,000 on the tickets. The other problem is that while scalping is illegal for many events such as MSU sports, giving your ticket to someone or selling it at face value is not. By enacting the printed name rule, moving your ticket suddenly becomes much more difficult. MSU's ticket exchange service is neat, but if I have to go through all that and pay a service fee rather than simply handing someone my paper ticket, I don't like it.
Bottom line, there are lots of people that don't like re-selling, but just about no one including the university wants to enforce it or do much about it. While fixing one problem, they're almost always going to create another. This was why they simply moved the ticket re-selling area a year ago rather than coming out and saying that you couldn't do it anywhere on campus.
Printing the name on the tickets is a good idea and one that's been used before, but it's a nightmare for the facility and event staff. They tried to do this a couple years ago for a Hannah Montana tour and the end result was thousands of people being denied entry due to buying a scalped ticket. You can only imagine how this went over at the venues as they're trying to explain to hundreds of 13-year-old girls and dads that she won't be able to get in after her dad spent $2,000 on the tickets. The other problem is that while scalping is illegal for many events such as MSU sports, giving your ticket to someone or selling it at face value is not. By enacting the printed name rule, moving your ticket suddenly becomes much more difficult. MSU's ticket exchange service is neat, but if I have to go through all that and pay a service fee rather than simply handing someone my paper ticket, I don't like it.
Bottom line, there are lots of people that don't like re-selling, but just about no one including the university wants to enforce it or do much about it. While fixing one problem, they're almost always going to create another. This was why they simply moved the ticket re-selling area a year ago rather than coming out and saying that you couldn't do it anywhere on campus.
That's why i abandoned the 'standby' idea, because there's nothing in it for the university except a logistics problem. but i think this idea captures a lot of lost revenue.
I think the biggest problem is it would potentially increase the line wait time, but if they're searching everyone it's moot. Plus, you could ignore this for student tix, and that's the longest line anyway.
State law is also a problem. But it can either be ignored (like now), or changed.
You'd also want StubHub's cooperation, with them providing an advisory about the policy whenever someone views State tickets.
anyway, next time State calls me asking for money, i'm bringing this up. as long as they're letting this revenue stream go untouched, they must not need my money that badly.
"The other problem is that while scalping is illegal for many events such as MSU sports, giving your ticket to someone or selling it at face value is not. By enacting the printed name rule, moving your ticket suddenly becomes much more difficult. MSU's ticket exchange service is neat, but if I have to go through all that and pay a service fee rather than simply handing someone my paper ticket, I don't like it."
This is true, but bottom line the priority is for you, not your friends. If they aren't willing to pay the new fee (remember, all you'd have to do is hand them the tickets, they'd have to pay the fee onsite), then they apparantly don't want the tickets that badly enough to deserve them.
I think the biggest problem is it would potentially increase the line wait time, but if they're searching everyone it's moot. Plus, you could ignore this for student tix, and that's the longest line anyway.
State law is also a problem. But it can either be ignored (like now), or changed.
You'd also want StubHub's cooperation, with them providing an advisory about the policy whenever someone views State tickets.
anyway, next time State calls me asking for money, i'm bringing this up. as long as they're letting this revenue stream go untouched, they must not need my money that badly.
"The other problem is that while scalping is illegal for many events such as MSU sports, giving your ticket to someone or selling it at face value is not. By enacting the printed name rule, moving your ticket suddenly becomes much more difficult. MSU's ticket exchange service is neat, but if I have to go through all that and pay a service fee rather than simply handing someone my paper ticket, I don't like it."
This is true, but bottom line the priority is for you, not your friends. If they aren't willing to pay the new fee (remember, all you'd have to do is hand them the tickets, they'd have to pay the fee onsite), then they apparantly don't want the tickets that badly enough to deserve them.
I bought my Saints NFC Championship tickets from them and they were $50- $100 less than Stubhub or the Ticketmaster ticket exchange.