It may be a tad bit more than a notch. OM is headed to their 11th Sugar Bowl, a place MSU has never been.
Question for our fans (Warning Long)
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Nothing our rival does motivates me to watch my money turn to free agency vapor. If anything, I consider the big donors not too bright.
We funded a baseball stadium at 60 million dollars (with money not fundraised) while the sport that everyone else in our league cares about is at the bottom of the league in everything financially related. I won’t get over it.
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If I’m asked to give money to something, I want to get some pleasure from it, and I’ve not felt good about Mississippi State football since Mike Leach’s first game as coach.
Why the 17 should I give more money to something fundamentally depressing? I already set aside cash for annual PSAs/ prostate checkups…
Which makes &tate the Durham Bulls*****
At least the checkups aren’t a waste of your time, either******
Seriously, at the heart of your statement is: “I will pay to be “entertained.” Watching the alma mater consistently get boat raced is not a form of entertainment worth paying for
Well the crux of it all is this.
We have a fanbase and alumni base, that somehow, are conditioned to run down the school, the teams, and the town. “All the restaurants that have been here for years are average at best, the town has everything wrong with it, the university is failing at ____, the teams can’t compete, Starkville and MSU can never ____”
If you put 4 MSU fans in a group, there would be so much complaining and bad mouthing that someone is going to out pitiful the rest and throw their MSU apparel in a trash can.
Now you take the other university in the state and they lock arms and polish every dog turd in every yard. They talk everything up, they are the best in things they are actually awful at. They are as big of a name as any team you can name. All of their restaurants are the best in the world. A courthouse square ranks up there in popularity with Times Square. They have people believing a gas station’s chicken is a fine delicacy. Hell, they currently have convinced themselves that Pete Golding is a top tier football coach and Lane Kiffin only showed up three days a week to just approve Goldings game plan.
And they have never thought they can never ____.
which one works?
Now while we sit and frown that MSU can never _____ just because, We have Indiana, Vanderbilt, UM, Texas Tech, BYU, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Utah, Arizona State, etc turning their tradionally mediocre teams in the right direction.
All the while we can’t wait to exacerbate and basically brag how much less we can support or care. How much everything sucks and how we shouldn’t waste our time.
It sucks. But everyone can do what they want to do.
We have a fanbase and alumni base, that somehow, are conditioned to run down the school, the teams, and the town. “All the restaurants that have been here for years are average at best, the town has everything wrong with it, the university is failing at ____, the teams can’t compete, Starkville and MSU can never ____”
If you put 4 MSU fans in a group, there would be so much complaining and bad mouthing that someone is going to out pitiful the rest and throw their MSU apparel in a trash can.
Now you take the other university in the state and they lock arms and polish every dog turd in every yard. They talk everything up, they are the best in things they are actually awful at. They are as big of a name as any team you can name. All of their restaurants are the best in the world. A courthouse square ranks up there in popularity with Times Square. They have people believing a gas station’s chicken is a fine delicacy. Hell, they currently have convinced themselves that Pete Golding is a top tier football coach and Lane Kiffin only showed up three days a week to just approve Goldings game plan.
And they have never thought they can never ____.
which one works?
Now while we sit and frown that MSU can never _____ just because, We have Indiana, Vanderbilt, UM, Texas Tech, BYU, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Houston, Utah, Arizona State, etc turning their tradionally mediocre teams in the right direction.
All the while we can’t wait to exacerbate and basically brag how much less we can support or care. How much everything sucks and how we shouldn’t waste our time.
It sucks. But everyone can do what they want to do.
True. I’ll likely know when death’s gonna come for me… **
Considering that my father and my father’s father both passed away in their 70s of prostate cancer it’ll likely be sometime in the next 20 years & hopefully it’ll be much closer to the end of that 20 years…
We’re in Six Pack so we know not to hope *too* much…
Truth.
We’re gonna have fixed incomes in the next few years, and I am not going to be that elderly retiree sending a few dollars as a placebo gift to an institution whose people don’t know me or doesn’t care about my best interests…
(That last swipe wasn’t about you, specifically, MSU, but when your middle-aged alumni have even more elderly relatives… well you get the picture…)
I swear all MSU needs is Sally Struthers to be a spokeswoman for its NIL… **
This is the biggest indictment on MSU: out of touch with the alumni base
Sad part is: It seemed that it didn’t used to be that way. There used to be a welcoming feeling at MSU (and Starkville). Not today — the area has succumbed to its’ “little town blues,” with an inferiority complex, and a lot of NIMBY.
But now there seems to be people running the institution that act like they have been no where else but Starkville or barely left the State of Mississippi. Becoming average and stale was inevitable. Complacency has set in.
I’ll add that I shred solicitations from MSU ((AFO&U ($1))— and, like you, I’ve grown tired of it rattling its tin cup in my face as it were entitled to donations from me for initiatives that seem to only sharpen the resumes of the current administration and not truly advance the institution to help impact and elevate the citizens, the region, and the state.
The old MSU was better than that. This MSU? Not so much
Tempe, Salt Lake City, Houston, Atlanta, Charlottesville, Provo, Nashville, etc.
A real question that must be factored in is: “How does Starkville compare to those towns/cities?”
Now, I’ll be snarky: Is &tate now the P4 version of Last Chance U?******
@OG Goat Holder
Reading this thread is about as depressing as it gets. You would think there's no hope going forward. I hope everyone has a good Christmas and stays off of here tomorrow. Otherwise you will be a downer for those around you.
I used to be the fan that let football results dictate my attitude for the week or even the year. 25 years ago I was leaving a game we lost in Starkville. I was really upset that we had lost and thinking about the week ahead and how I would cope. Then I asked myself other than the game what was different. My paycheck was still coming and my family was doing well. I had a lot to be thankful for during the week so why be upset over something I had no control over? Ever since that game I've gotten over losses pretty quick and gone on with my life.
My attitude is not what ESPN, SEC and Mississippi State want. They want me to throw money at an issue to make myself feel better because I'm doing something I feel will improve our outcome. I think we will be OK with the current coaching staff. Let's just support them.
God Bless everyone and Merry Christmas
I used to be the fan that let football results dictate my attitude for the week or even the year. 25 years ago I was leaving a game we lost in Starkville. I was really upset that we had lost and thinking about the week ahead and how I would cope. Then I asked myself other than the game what was different. My paycheck was still coming and my family was doing well. I had a lot to be thankful for during the week so why be upset over something I had no control over? Ever since that game I've gotten over losses pretty quick and gone on with my life.
My attitude is not what ESPN, SEC and Mississippi State want. They want me to throw money at an issue to make myself feel better because I'm doing something I feel will improve our outcome. I think we will be OK with the current coaching staff. Let's just support them.
God Bless everyone and Merry Christmas
Wow. In my experience MSU 1980-2010 v today... is the exact opposite.
Back in the day, the school was a local school ran by alumni mostly and an alumni event was "who are you and who are your people?" the town of Starkville offered much of nothing and didn't care to offer anything.
Now the schools adds more than ever to the sporting event experience to entertain. You have video boards, social media hype, fireworks.... the athletic department keeps us informed more than ever and begs people to come to town. The athletic department does everything they can to fund raise to improve the experience. Starkville the town is working to improve and is has many restaurant options that are more than welcoming to me.
What's very little change to me is the fan base. There is a small loyal portion of the fan base. That show up for games, give and stay in town. However there is still far too many alumni that don't give a damn and cry and whine about everything. They flat out don't want to put forth the energy to come to campus to support the school and therefore fund raising suffers and therefore it's difficult to have nice things.
The people at Mississippi State University are doing all the can. They aren't perfect but th staff has never been better. Yet.... the alumni showing up remains the same.
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Like you, I don’t let MSU sports sucesss (or failure) define me. However, it is curious that several miserable fans are miserable people who use their teams as an outlet for their miseriesReading this thread is about as depressing as it gets. You would think there's no hope going forward. I hope everyone has a good Christmas and stays off of here tomorrow. Otherwise you will be a downer for those around you.
I used to be the fan that let football results dictate my attitude for the week or even the year. 25 years ago I was leaving a game we lost in Starkville. I was really upset that we had lost and thinking about the week ahead and how I would cope. Then I asked myself other than the game what was different. My paycheck was still coming and my family was doing well. I had a lot to be thankful for during the week so why be upset over something I had no control over? Ever since that game I've gotten over losses pretty quick and gone on with my life.
My attitude is not what ESPN, SEC and Mississippi State want. They want me to throw money at an issue to make myself feel better because I'm doing something I feel will improve our outcome. I think we will be OK with the current coaching staff. Let's just support them.
God Bless everyone and Merry Christmas
My personal approach to this board’s sport's topics is not unlike a goal to be achieved or a problem to be solved. In today’s climate, these issues have become deep, complex business challenges. There are multiple approaches and and opinions.
That said, I don’t want it be tough for MSU to “succeed.” I do have concerns that the conditions don’t favor it in the near term.
Don’t let it get you down — they’re only opinions which are like the old pun goes (including mine).
God bless you, Brother, and Merry Christmas to you and yours
I respect your perspective and experiences. Interesting how we differ. It is a testament to the challenges of “marketing to a customer base”
Despite folks “doing all they can” and that they may have never been “better,” is it enough to achieve the level achievement to be elite? Is “good enough” just good enough?
Getting out of the “desert” is one thing. Getting to the “promised land” is quite another.
That’s very much a good cop answer.
I’m still tempted to use my bad cop response to Maroon13…
Me being called “good cop” is ironic on so many levels….*****
