question for soccer fans

af102

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I know alot of tournaments I played in had a silver goal rule- if someone scored in the first 15 minute half, you finished the half, but then thegame would end there rather than having to play another 15 minutes. I think it is the best of both worlds.

My only complaint about overtime is the players are so tired by then, the quality of play drops off. There should be a 4th substitute allowed if you are going to play another 30 mins for sure.
 

JimC1097

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It backfires against him because at times there are legitimate fouls called against him, but he does not get the call.
 

Agentdog

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I will 3rd that there needs to be more scoring. I think something that would help and not drastically change the game......is larger goals. Make them 10ft by 10 yards. You would probably have more shots on goal with a larger target for the striker.
 

Hotel Roosevelt

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because there are so few of them. In my experience, and this is only my experience, nothing else, not a touchdown, three-pointer, run, etc, is as exhilarating on its own merits as a goal. You go into the game knowing that there will only be a few goals scored, at most. You hope your team scores a couple, maybe even three. And when your team does score, it is a huge deal. When the other team scores, it is crushing. In context other scores can be more exciting, goals are more exciting in context too, but for me it was the rarity of the score that made it so euphoric.

All the more goals! suggestions have been made before: ditch offsides! bigger goals! no goalkeepers! etc. Every once in a while Americans get to brainstorming how they can make soccer better (probably around World Cups). Offsides can be a tough rule to process and accept. It took me a little while. My first World Cup I couldn't understand why they didn't just abolish it (yes, there were novices suggesting all of these changes then too), eventually you just get it, understand it, and accept it.

Soccer fandom probably comes when you finally begin to appreciate what happens in-between goals. It takes, maybe, thirty seconds from any given time in a game to a potential scoring opportunity. No matter where you are on the field, no matter who has the ball, a score can happen before the minute is out. Just like a home run can occur with every pitch. To say soccer only has a handful of scoring opportunities while baseball has one every single pitch is faulty. There isn't a home run or a base hit on every pitch. A lot of pitches are balls, foul balls, strikes with no swing, etc. If those count as scoring opportunities there isn't a moment in a soccer game where there is not a scoring opportunity. And as you watch more games and see what players and teams can do and the various ways goals can be scored your imagination starts to open up and you begin to see what the players are attempting and all the ways that whatever is happening on the field right now can lead to a goal. When you are starting out, it's hard to tell.

The World Cup is the perfect time to attempt to get into soccer, just because of the number of games. You can watch a game a day for a month. If you get into it during club season it's a game a week. You can get a season's worth of games in one month with the Cup. If one or two games pique your interest in the least bit, which if you are posting about it there is a good chance it does, give it some more chances. Catch a few more games. I grew up with football, basketball, and baseball ingrained into my consciousness from my earliest memories. I don't even remember learning the rules to those games. It's like I always knew them. I didn't question the rules because...they just were the rules. I didn't learn soccer until I was in my twenties. I had to learn the rules and I had to take a lot of things for granted at first until everything coalesced for me.
 

JohnDawg

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I like PK's. After 90+ minutes ofregular time then 30 more minutes of extra time, the players are absolutelytired ashell.

The only reason you see guys miss them is they try to get too fancy or the keeper makes an unbelievablesave (guess) on the ball.A hard, low shot into the corner awayfrom the keepers' reach is not that hard to do.

85% luck? No says I.
 

Uncle Leo

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Removing or changingthe offsides rule would fundamentally change how the game is played. It's not as easy as saying a particular scoring opportunity you saw in a game that happened to be stopped by an offsides call would have unfolded the exact same without an offsides rule, except in the new instance the play would beallowed to continue, with more scoring as a result. The play you see now is the way it is because of the offsides rule. Eliminate the rule and defenses must play differently. Without an offsides rule, forwards will park themselves in their opponent's 18-yard box. This will force more defenders to play farther back, in turn forcing more and more of the "action" to the ends of the field, effective eliminating play in the middle of the field. It would be long-ball after long-ball from one end of the field to another. It would encourage cherry-pickers and all but eliminate the need for an attacking build-up.

A rule like hockey's would be a detriment, as well. Defenses could just boot the ball upfield and force the offensive players to clear out of the "zone" before attacking again. This would thoroughly restrict the open flow of the game.

The offsides rule doesn't restrict offense, as you say. It actually promotes a more attractive style of play.
 

patdog

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And there is a lot of luck involved (you even mentioned yourself that the goalkeeper's guess is a factor). It's a terrible way to decide a soccer match, but after 120 minutes there's not really any other option.
 

JohnDawg

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These players have precise accuracy with a soccer ball.A hard, low shot in the corner or even a hard upper 90 shotis almost impossible for a keeper to get to, granted he doesn't cheat and jump forwardbefore the ball is kicked. I wasn't arguing the 85% as a success rate because that soundsright. I was saying it's not 85% "luck."

2 hours of playing socceris absolutely brutal. Like you said, there's really no other option. If the players don't like it, then they should have scored a goal in regulation or extra time.</p>
 

MSUCostanza

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In England, for instance, the NFL is gaining popularity but is largely not understood - exactly like soccer in the US. The main complaint that Brits have about "our football" is that it is over-officious (think about the ridiculousness of all the penalties in just a pure sense (not enough men on the line! pass interference! illegal block! holding! etc, etc.), and there is 10 seconds of action and 50 seconds of standing around in every minute, and too many breaks. When you think about it, all that really is true! It's just that we've grown up following it and don't think twice about it - to us it is just part of the game - to an outsider all that seems crazy. A reasonable person would then take the time to learn and understand the nuances of soccer before dismissing it, keeping in mind how others perceive our game. Then again, that would require an open mind, which is something a lot of people lack.
 

Sutterkane

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