Question for Stans critics?

[Dawgfan61]

This post is not an attack or to say "I told you so." etc...

Do you continue to call for his head after every single loss like last year?

My point is that he is to be extended thru 2013-14, so it would be obvious that he would be here 2011-12 at a minimum. Do you want to bang your head against the wall and keep calling for his head after every loss since it will be obvious he isn't going anywhere?

Don't get me wrong, I wanted the pressure to be on this year. I wanted to see some improvement and a NCAA tourney win at a minimum. But like it or not he is obviously staying longer than that.

 

[Dawgfan61]

This post is not an attack or to say "I told you so." etc...

Do you continue to call for his head after every single loss like last year?

My point is that he is to be extended thru 2013-14, so it would be obvious that he would be here 2011-12 at a minimum. Do you want to bang your head against the wall and keep calling for his head after every loss since it will be obvious he isn't going anywhere?

Don't get me wrong, I wanted the pressure to be on this year. I wanted to see some improvement and a NCAA tourney win at a minimum. But like it or not he is obviously staying longer than that.

 

[Dawgfan61]

This post is not an attack or to say "I told you so." etc...

Do you continue to call for his head after every single loss like last year?

My point is that he is to be extended thru 2013-14, so it would be obvious that he would be here 2011-12 at a minimum. Do you want to bang your head against the wall and keep calling for his head after every loss since it will be obvious he isn't going anywhere?

Don't get me wrong, I wanted the pressure to be on this year. I wanted to see some improvement and a NCAA tourney win at a minimum. But like it or not he is obviously staying longer than that.

 

[Dawgfan61]

This post is not an attack or to say "I told you so." etc...

Do you continue to call for his head after every single loss like last year?

My point is that he is to be extended thru 2013-14, so it would be obvious that he would be here 2011-12 at a minimum. Do you want to bang your head against the wall and keep calling for his head after every loss since it will be obvious he isn't going anywhere?

Don't get me wrong, I wanted the pressure to be on this year. I wanted to see some improvement and a NCAA tourney win at a minimum. But like it or not he is obviously staying longer than that.

 

[Coach34]

he should be fired if we don't make the Tourney in 2011...

get the buyout ready

 

[TheBigDA]

he's not right more than 18.93% on most issues but on the stans issue he is 100%

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

you cant continue to make over a million a year, out recruit most, and back door your way into the top 65 half the time.......


take a pay cut, produce, or get fired.....

 

[Dawgbreeze]

Two SEC tournamnet titles and One overall SEC championship is backdoor? last I checked that usually gets anybody in. Maybe you need to see how many others would love that backdoor entry including coach 34's boy Kennedy.

 

[studentdawg87]

I want to see us go in to the conference tournament as a lock to make the tournament, not have to worry about winning the damn thing. We should be playing for seeding, not a tournament berth.

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

that makes him making the dance at below 50%............in medical sales, you come in 50%, and you are fired. no questions asked. I dont know any medical sales reps making 1.3 million either.......accountability is all im saying......winning the sec west doesnt get you to the dance......and THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.....

 

[Thick]

nm

 

[Dawgbreeze]

In fact lots of ex coaches doing those things now because they couldn't cut it.

 

[Coach34]

but after going 12-1 in football and 28-6 in baseball my last year as a coach- "cutting it" wasn't an issue

What was an issue was dealing with jock-sniffing idiots like you trying to feel important by throwing a little money around and wanting to be included in the program. I didnt have any time for that ****, especially to make 40 thousand dollars a year

You have been made to look stupid today...just stop...let the referee step in and stop the bleeding

 

[Hanmudog]

I want to see us go in to the conference tournament as a lock to make the tournament, not have to worry about winning the damn thing. We should be playing for seeding, not a tournament berth.

Some of you bend over backwards to find something to ***** about. Seriously, what fans ***** about winning a conference tournament title? Do you realize how stupid that sounds from the outside looking in? It is not like we were 14-16 going into those tournaments and got lucky.

 

[MSUCostanza]

You are definitely persistent. I gave up last year trying to argue with these knuckleheads. Now I just pick my spots.

 

[Hanmudog]

You are definitely persistent. I gave up last year trying to argue with these knuckleheads. Now I just pick my spots.

You have me beat by like 10 million posts.

 

[studentdawg87]

I like winning the conference tournament just like everyone else, but we shouldn't be in a situation where we have to win the damn thing to get in. If you are in a BCS conference and wouldn't get in as an at-large team, then you backed in.

I don't understand why that is so hard to explain. Winning the conference tournament is great, but we shouldn't constantly be in a situation where we need to do so just to squeak in as a 9-12 seed. If we would take care of business in the OOC play we would be playing for seeding, not praying we make the tournament.

 

[clydefrazier]

has he ever had an assistant get a job offer?
has he ever had a player that he developed get drafted and stick?
With all the "talent" he recruits, has he ever made it to a sweet 16?
how many tourneys has he made it to and had a lower seed win?
Sec West has been down or average at best for about 7 years, what his status in the east?
And most importantly, why is he 0 and what was it, 25 vs teams with a tip 50 rpi?

 

[MSUCosmo]

No, we were just 20-9 with a 100+ strength of schedule and most "experts" saying that we had to win the SEC tournament to get in. At some point something's got to give. You can't continue to put Stansbury up on a pedestal for winning the division when the last 2 years, it hasn't been good enough to get the division winner into the Big Dance.

 

[dawgstudent]

it's simple - you backed in.

 

[russellwalters]

I can honestly say I've never heard medical sales being compared to coaching...I honestly don't even know what to make of it...

HAVING to win the tournament to get in the NCAA is backing, but it's ok to back it. Hey, we could've not won the conference tournament.

I suppose that would probably make a lot of you happy because you seem to thrive on misery.

 

[mstateglfr]

Two SEC tournamnet titles and One overall SEC championship is backdoor? last I checked that usually gets anybody in. Maybe you need to see how many others would love that backdoor entry including coach 34's boy Kennedy.

One of those SEC Titles WAS backing in...last season's. The other conf tourney title and the overall title were both us playing great and not backing our way in.
Good point...in what is well over a decade of coaching now, you mentioned 2 times were were solidly in.

 

[goatherder]

40K a year, hmmm, didin't know church leagues were paying that much. You must have been special...

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

that's not "backing in". To me backing in would be making the tournament due to another team or teams losing enough to get you in. In other words, nothing you did got you there, you just got lucky and the other team(s) lost.

I just don't think making the tourney by winning 3 or 4 games in a row to be backing in. To me, that's playing yourself in.

 

[futaba.79]

Were you the head coach of a 12-1 team?

 

[paindonthurt_]

Have we underachieved the last 3 years?

Yes, yes, and yes.

No way with our talent this year we shouldn't have made the tournament regardless of what happened in the SEC tourn.
No way last year we should have had to win the SEC Tournament to make it.
No way the year before should we have been the seed we were which would have meant we would not have played Memphis in the 2nd round.

Can you argue any one of those specific points without just rambling about something completely off the subject?

 

[Uncle Leo]

that's not "backing in". To me backing in would be making the tournament due to another team or teams losing enough to get you in. In other words, nothing you did got you there, you just got lucky and the other team(s) lost.

I just don't think making the tourney by winning 3 or 4 games in a row to be backing in. To me, that's playing yourself in.

If you're having to rely on making a conference tournament championship run to make the NCAA tournament and you're in a multi-bid league, you're not moving forward as a program.

 

[dickiedawg]

that's not "backing in". To me backing in would be making the tournament due to another team or teams losing enough to get you in. In other words, nothing you did got you there, you just got lucky and the other team(s) lost.

I just don't think making the tourney by winning 3 or 4 games in a row to be backing in. To me, that's playing yourself in.

"Backing in" could be more like what Texas did this year. That was some serious underachievin'. <div>
</div><div>But there has to be a distinction between an NCAA berth you earned by your regular season record and one you won a few games at the end to steal.</div>

 

[Hanmudog]

that's not "backing in". To me backing in would be making the tournament due to another team or teams losing enough to get you in. In other words, nothing you did got you there, you just got lucky and the other team(s) lost.

I just don't think making the tourney by winning 3 or 4 games in a row to be backing in. To me, that's playing yourself in.

If you're having to rely on making a conference tournament championship run to make the NCAA tournament and you're in a multi-bid league, you're not moving forward as a program.

So by winning your conference tournament we are not showing anything as a program? You do realize that hardly anyone other than State, Florida, and UK have won the thing for the last decade aside from UGA making a run due to a tornado. Like someone previously stated, it was only one of those SEC toruney titles that we had to win to make the tourney. We were already in when we won the other one.
I have said it a million MFing times that Stansbury did a bad jobthis year and some changes need to be made if things don't improve. However, I am not going to sit here and make **** up to denigratewhat he has accomplished at MSU. An NCAA bid is an NCAA bid. Icould give a monkey **** about how we get it. If we get a bid and it includes an SEC tourney title then fandamntastic.

 

[AshleySchaffer]

We dont make the NCAA tourney in 2011, our new AD listens to C34 and Fishwater and FIRES Stans and gives him his buyout.

With the limited resources and funds how will we come up with enough money to put together a good enough contract to hire a quality coach??????

MY ANSWER............... WE WON'T

If it aint broke, then dont fix it. Stans is as good of a coach as we could have, we couldnt find a coach in America willing to move to Starkville with a resume anywhere near as good as Stans has.

 

[mstateglfr]

Sure, winning the conf tourney means you played your way in.

At the same time, needing to win the conference tournament to even get a terrible NCAAT seed means not only werent you on solid ground, you were drowning before the conf tourney. You had 0 chance of getting an at large bid.

Receiving an at large bid shows you are a team that was solidly in the tournament because they werent forced to take you...they chose to.

 

[Coach34]

.

 

[8dog]

b/w a bid based solely on winning the SEC tourney and one based on the regular season. We've had 1 regular season worth a damn in the last 5 years and that's disappointing to a lot of people.

 

[Coach34]

We dont make the NCAA tourney in 2011, our new AD listens to C34 and Fishwater and FIRES Stans and gives him his buyout.

With the limited resources and funds how will we come up with enough money to put together a good enough contract to hire a quality coach??????

MY ANSWER............... WE WON'T

If it aint broke, then dont fix it. Stans is as good of a coach as we could have, we couldnt find a coach in America willing to move to Starkville with a resume anywhere near as good as Stans has.

How can anybody possibly say that 1 earned NCAA bid during the regular season in the last 6 years "ain't broke"??????

 

[Coach34]

40K a year, hmmm, didin't know church leagues were paying that much. You must have been special...

 

[paindonthurt_]

So only 1 wasn't necessary to get to the NCAA tourn.

And yes, by winning the conference title and thats the only way you can get in the NCAAT, that isn't showing much as a program unless you build upon it.
I wouldn't define going one and done in that years NCAAT and then returning every single starter the next year and not even making the NCAAT "building on it".
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[Agentdog]

redacted

 

[paindonthurt_]

Billy Donovan's prior to Florida??
Mullen's prior to MSU??
Nick Saban prior to LSU??

 

[futaba.79]

but you didn't compile a personal record.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

Coach badmouths folks who actually support the program monitarily and then tries to twist the facts to prove his points as usual. Winning a conference tourney counts in any league, even the YMCA league where coach coached, the Mississippi high school ranks, the SEC tourney, or any other league. That dog won't hunt. Many teams have won conference tourneys and then advanced far in the NCAA tourney. Now the real question that arises is what will ever satisfy this tool? Gottfried and Brady both advanced in the NCAA tourney and had players make the pros? Look where they are now. Consistency means nothing to critics who can't be pleased. We all know that this psychopath and his group therapy members will never be satisfied no matter what. Stansbury is here for at least 4 more years and no matter how much you do your little childish rants, insults to others who prove your theories to be ********, we can expect the same mental imbalance. Take up golf, or bowling, or something positive and give this board a rest.