Question for you older MSU fans

horshack.sixpack

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My memory only goes back to Brewer. I guess I wasn't of the age to really follow football and notice prior to him. Did he set the standard for whining and excuse making for Ole Miss, or was has that tradition been passed down from years prior? His post game interviews were classic for whining and excuse making and the Kellum and the Ole Miss faithful seem to be great at carrying the torch. I'm just wondering if he invented it or just perpetuated it...
 

bbqbully

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I can remember OM coaches back as far as Vaught's last years

But you have to understand, there wasn't the huge media presence that there is today. I don't think the conference required coaches to have a post-game presser back then and even if they did, Vaught, et al, wouldn't whine. Brewer may not have been the first, but he damn sure perfected it.

Vaught, for the most part, ignored us. He felt, and rightly so at the time, that Ole Miss was so far superior to us that we weren't worthy of acknowledgement, just a little bump in the road between the LSU game and their annual bowl trip. Billy Kinard and Ken Cooper were idiots. Steve Sloan was a nice guy, always had complimentary things to say. No wonder he didn't last long up there. He spent more time in his post game talks praising the Ole Miss band than he did analyzing the game.

Brewer earned his nickname, "Dog." He was as mean as a snake and hates all things Mississippi State.
 

WayboDawg

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I have a lot of respect for Vaught, and I actually enjoyed reading his auto-biography a while back. My Dad and Grandpa were strong Ole Miss fans back during his time, but I think it was the Brewer era of complaining, whining, cussing, and fussing amongst the Rebel faithful that made them switch from Rebels to Bulldogs.
 

horshack.sixpack

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I do seem to remember Sloan being a nice guy. I'm convinced the refs could have come out and awarded Ole Miss 21 points to start the game, but if Ole Miss lost, Brewer would pitch a whining, it wasn't fair, fit in the post-game. Sherrill coming when he did made that great. During their overlap, I had more fun listening to their post game than ours, when we beat them. Heck if you were bored on a Saturday and Ole Miss had just lost, you could tune in to Brewer's post game and just enjoy it...

It's interesting that the fan base draws from the same basic population, but by and large you get excuse making Kool-Aid drinkers for Ole Miss (Kellum vs Cristil was a perfect illustration of the contrast) and realistic/pessimistic fans at MSU. At least that's always been my perception and my disdain for Brewer and the "Rebel" mentality was incubated prior to me actually being an MSU fan...