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DinwiddieProud

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This Friday, along with my supportive, but somewhat reluctant, wife, I’m headed to Hurley to take in the last game that will ever be played at The Cliff.

Hurley, Grundy, and Twin Valley will merge into a new school next year to be named Southern Gap High School. (I’ll try to post a picture of The Cliff in a minute, but I’ve never had any success posting a picture to VaPreps).

I’m very fortunate in that our long term defensive coach here at Dinwiddie, Coach Dave Davis, was born and raised in Hurley. He hooked me up with some of his family that still lives there, so I’ve got insider info on when to arrive, where to park, and what to expect. And wall to wall, (or maybe I should say cliff to cliff), people is what I was told to expect. Hurley host Twin Valley in what will be their last game ever as well. (How can you not love a school like Twin Valley that calls “Pilgrims Knob” home?)

One other thing about Coach Davis. I have been told that on teams with some of the toughest kids ever to come out of the coal country, Coach Davis was about the toughest of them all. As a linebacker, he was the best among the best.

Now for a couple of questions. From Fourseasonsfootball.com, I see that the earliest games for Hurley were played at a place called Vansant Park. Where was this? Does it still exist? It appears that around 1960 they started playing at County Stadium in Grundy. Was this a shared field with Grundy? Does it still exist?

It appears that it was 1980 when “The Cliff”, (actually Smiley Ratliff Field), was first opened? I see that Mr Ratliff was the Coach for most of the early years of Hurley. I assume this is the same person? I’ve heard that Mr Ratliff became insanity rich from the coal industry. True?

I also heard that Mr Ratliff was a real character. I heard he once bought a Rolls Royce but spit tobacco juice in the floorboard, because he could!

Back down the mountains in Grundy I have been told that Bellecino’s Pizza “ain’t bad,” Any opinions?

As was previously recommended by the long time loyal poster, SpartanO’Yore, we are going to make a trip to Breaks Interstate Park. And unless something changes, on the way back to Grundy on Saturday, we are going to make a side trip to Burke’s Garden. And maybe a couple of the other stops he recommended. On Sunday, I hope to stop by a waterfall that was suggested, as well as visit a covered bridge.

Spartan, I sent you my contact info on the conversation feature.

If any of you have answers to my questions above, or would like to offer your suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. And if you could improve the weather just a little for the weekend, that too will be appreciated.
 

WestGraham

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I believe the field at Vansant sits on the current site of Food City in Vansant. County Stadium would most likely be Nelson Memorial Field behind Grundy High school up slate creek beside the hospital. And Smiley Ratliff at his death was the 2nd largest landowner east of the Mississippi. Have a safe trip.
 

SpartanO’Yore

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This Friday, along with my supportive, but somewhat reluctant, wife, I’m headed to Hurley to take in the last game that will ever be played at The Cliff.

Hurley, Grundy, and Twin Valley will merge into a new school next year to be named Southern Gap High School. (I’ll try to post a picture of The Cliff in a minute, but I’ve never had any success posting a picture to VaPreps).

I’m very fortunate in that our long term defensive coach here at Dinwiddie, Coach Dave Davis, was born and raised in Hurley. He hooked me up with some of his family that still lives there, so I’ve got insider info on when to arrive, where to park, and what to expect. And wall to wall, (or maybe I should say cliff to cliff), people is what I was told to expect. Hurley host Twin Valley in what will be their last game ever as well. (How can you not love a school like Twin Valley that calls “Pilgrims Knob” home?)

One other thing about Coach Davis. I have been told that on teams with some of the toughest kids ever to come out of the coal country, Coach Davis was about the toughest of them all. As a linebacker, he was the best among the best.

Now for a couple of questions. From Fourseasonsfootball.com, I see that the earliest games for Hurley were played at a place called Vansant Park. Where was this? Does it still exist? It appears that around 1960 they started playing at County Stadium in Grundy. Was this a shared field with Grundy? Does it still exist?

It appears that it was 1980 when “The Cliff”, (actually Smiley Ratliff Field), was first opened? I see that Mr Ratliff was the Coach for most of the early years of Hurley. I assume this is the same person? I’ve heard that Mr Ratliff became insanity rich from the coal industry. True?

I also heard that Mr Ratliff was a real character. I heard he once bought a Rolls Royce but spit tobacco juice in the floorboard, because he could!

Back down the mountains in Grundy I have been told that Bellecino’s Pizza “ain’t bad,” Any opinions?

As was previously recommended by the long time loyal poster, SpartanO’Yore, we are going to make a trip to Breaks Interstate Park. And unless something changes, on the way back to Grundy on Saturday, we are going to make a side trip to Burke’s Garden. And maybe a couple of the other stops he recommended. On Sunday, I hope to stop by a waterfall that was suggested, as well as visit a covered bridge.

Spartan, I sent you my contact info on the conversation feature.

If any of you have answers to my questions above, or would like to offer your suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. And if you could improve the weather just a little for the weekend, that too will be appreciated.
This should be a great trip. I predict your wife will be glad she went. Of course, I also predicted Salem would be one of the best teams in the region this year, so be aware there is some margin for error.

I ate at Bellacino’s my only visit to Grundy. It ain’t bad.
 

Union_Fan

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Some links...

Smiley Ratliff



The Cliff

Hurley HS

The new HS...Southern Gap High School - The Eagles





Bellicino's is legit. I prefer the subs over the pizza though.
 

MaroonDude

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This should be a great trip. I predict your wife will be glad she went. Of course, I also predicted Salem would be one of the best teams in the region this year, so be aware there is some margin for error.

I ate at Bellacino’s my only visit to Grundy. It ain’t bad.
Your prediction just might come true, brah.
 

VFL_85

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Some links...

Smiley Ratliff



The Cliff

Hurley HS

The new HS...Southern Gap High School - The Eagles





Bellicino's is legit. I prefer the subs over the pizza though.

The USA Today article was great! I have a different opinion of what the Confederate flag means than what the people of Hurley do but I respect the opinions of others, even if I dont agree with it. I have never been to Hurley and know very little about the area but after reading that article and seeing pictures of the stadium, I definitely want to go for a game now. It's too bad I wont make it happen before their last game this week.
 

DinwiddieProud

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WOW, what a trip. The fun started with a planned meeting of one of the finest gentlemen to ever post on Virginia Preps, SpartanO’Yore. I hope this is only the first on many visits we make. We have a lot in common beyond football.

The game at Hurley was a memory for a lifetime. The stadium is like non other in the world. It’s sad It must come to an end, but all great things eventually do.

There is rampant speculation that the new Southern Gap High School will not be completed on schedule. But it won’t be because the contractors are not trying. Tip for the wise, if you want a room reservation at the Comfort Inn in Grundy in the next nine months, you are probably out of luck. Unless of course you have some construction skills.

Gang, I’m hear to tell you that the best kept secret in Virginia and the surrounding states is Breaks Interstate Park. It has been dubbed the Grand Canyon of the South. There are not enough superlatives to describe the views from the overlooks. If I lived close by, I would be a park volunteer just so I could spend as much time as possible enjoying the natural beauty.

Back to football. The Twin Valley at Hurley game was not a masterpiece of football prowess, but it was everything you want in a high school game. Torrential rain instantly made it an old fashion mud bowl. The players on both teams played extremely hard, not quitting on any plays. Sportsmanship was in abundance, on an off the field. The fans and the workers were all universally nice, considerate folks.

Being drenched beyond all comprehension chased me back to the motel just before half time. My friend I sat with told me after the game that he had to go home and take a shower to dry off, he was that wet! That’s how wet we were. If I can get the little video clip of the post game activities to “attach” it gives you a pretty good idea of both the weather and the loyal fans.

I want to pause a minute and share my feelings. I’m a believer in Christ and a reasonably religious person, but definitely not a zealot. But I was so proud and so moved by what took place at the Hurlrey game that I was brought to tears. Against all government rules, the PA announcer delivered a short prayer before the National Anthem. Then the Rebels took the field carrying four flags. The American and the Virginia flags of course, but also the Confederate Battle Flag known as the stars and bars to represent the meaning of being a Hurley REBEL. But above all else, they carried the Christian flag. When the team reached the center of the field at pregame they took a knee in a circle and had a brief student led prayer. God bless them each and every one.

Ironically, on Saturday morning I struck up a conversation with a gentleman at breakfast. He had been the PA announcer at Grundy for 40 years. They asked him to deliver a pregame devotion at the Grundy game. He had to have a lot of help getting to the press booth but he made it and gave a wonderful devotion full of thought provoking meaning.

I’ve already typed too much, but I’ve got to tell you, Burkes Garden is everything I was ever told it was, and then some. I like my little patch of earth here in Dinwiddie, but Burkes Garden is a mighty tempting draw for me.

I rode through at least a dozen or more communities with high schools and saw a fair number of their stadiums along the way. I have also done my part to put Honecker on the map. I stopped and bought tickets their for tonight’s $900,000,000 lottery. I have to laugh. You know how we feel when the winning ticket for the lotteries is always bough in California or Illinois, or places like that? If my ticket hits tonight and they find out that a ticket sold at the Valero on Main Street was bought by a country boy from Dinwiddie, I may have to go into hiding.
 
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SpartanO’Yore

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WOW, what a trip. The fun started with a planned meeting of one of the finest gentlemen to ever post on Virginia Preps, SpartanO’Yore. I hope this is only the first on many visits we make. We have a lot in common beyond football.

The game at Hurley was a memory for a lifetime. The stadium is like non other in the world. It’s sad It must come to an end, but all great things eventually do.

There is rampant speculation that the new Southern Gap High School will not be completed on schedule. But it won’t be because the contractors are not trying. Tip for the wise, if you want a room reservation at the Comfort Inn in Grundy in the next nine months, you are probably out of luck. Unless of course you have some construction skills.

Gang, I’m hear to tell you that the best kept secret in Virginia and the surrounding states is Breaks Interstate Park. It has been dubbed the Grand Canyon of the South. There are not enough superlatives to describe the views from the overlooks. If I lived close by, I would be a park volunteer just so I could spend as much time as possible enjoying the natural beauty.

Back to football. The Twin Valley at Hurley game was not a masterpiece of football prowess, but it was everything you want in a high school game. Torrential rain instantly made it an old fashion mud bowl. The players on both teams played extremely hard, not quitting on any plays. Sportsmanship was in abundance, on an off the field. The fans and the workers were all universally nice, considerate folks.

Being drenched beyond all comprehension chased me back to the motel just before half time. My friend I sat with told me after the game that he had to go home and take a shower to dry off, he was that wet! That’s how wet we were. If I can get the little video clip of the post game activities to “attach” it gives you a pretty good idea of both the weather and the loyal fans.

I want to pause a minute and share my feelings. I’m a believer in Christ and a reasonably religious person, but definitely not a zealot. But I was so proud and so moved by what took place at the Hurlrey game that I was brought to tears. Against all government rules, the PA announcer delivered a short prayer before the National Anthem. Then the Rebels took the field carrying four flags. The American and the Virginia flags of course, but also the Confederate Battle Flag know as the stars and bars to represent the meaning of being a Hurley REBEL. But above all else, they carried the Christian flag. When the team reached the center of the field at pregame they took a knee in a circle and had a brief student led prayer. God bless them each and every one.

ironically, on Saturday morning I struck up a conversation with a gentleman at breakfast. He had been the PA announcer at Grundy for 40 years. They asked him to deliver a pregame devotion at the Grundy game. He had to have a lot of help getting to the press booth but he made it and gave a wonderful devotion full of thought provoking meaning.

I’ve already typed too much, but I’ve got to tell you, Burkes Garden is everything I was ever told it was, and then some. I like my little patch of earth here in Dinwiddie, but Burkes Garden is a mighty tempting draw for me.

I rode through at least a dozen or more communities with high schools and saw a fair number of their stadiums along the way. I have also done my part to put Honecker on the map. I stopped and bought tickets their for tonight’s $900,000,000 lottery. I have to laugh. You know how we feel when the winning ticket for the lotteries is always bough in California or Illinois, or places like that? If my ticket hits tonight and they find out that a ticket sold at the Valero on Main Street was bought by a country boy from Dinwiddie, I may have to go into hiding.
Great summary of an awesome trip. The pleasure was all mine. I don’t think I live up to your kind words, but I sure do appreciate them.
 
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