Quote from Tunsil's Coach

[MSU124]

Mark Schlabach ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>Mark_Schlabach
Laremy Tunsil's coach: "Once you start getting a lot of people w/their hands in the cookie jar, it's hard for kid to make a good decision."

 

[Original48]

Wow. That's about as blunt as you can be.

 

[maroonmania]

Freezus say turn in info to OM compliance....

Wow. That's about as blunt as you can be.

that is all.

 

[Shmuley]

Translation: ..........................................................

Cookie jar = Mississippi booster

Hands = Tunsil Mama/Daddy, Tunsil preacher, Tunsil handler.

 

[gtowndawg]

As I've said before, I feel sorry for kids that sign with Ole Miss

how their career starts and how it ends are going to be two separate things. Seems great now, but the NCAA man cometh. Freeze knows it's coming and that has nothing to do with the stuff that is already being looked at under Nutt's time.

Mark Schlabach ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>Mark_Schlabach
Laremy Tunsil's coach: "Once you start getting a lot of people w/their hands in the cookie jar, it's hard for kid to make a good decision."

 

[maroonmania]

Will be difficult for the NCAA to do much of anything to an SEC school...

how their career starts and how it ends are going to be two separate things. Seems great now, but the NCAA man cometh. Freeze knows it's coming and that has nothing to do with the stuff that is already being looked at under Nutt's time.

while Slive is around. He carries a lot of weight and his number one goal is keeping all SEC teams off serious probation so its a totally different environment now than it was back in the old Albert Means era. Another reason things have gotten as bad as they are now, when people realize there is very little consequence for cheating there is not much motivation not to.

 

[FlabLoser]

while Slive is around. He carries a lot of weight and his number one goal is keeping all SEC teams off serious probation so its a totally different environment now than it was back in the old Albert Means era. Another reason things have gotten as bad as they are now, when people realize there is very little consequence for cheating there is not much motivation not to.

Bama, UGA, MSU, and probably UF are really pissed at Ole Miss. When a handful of big boys complain to Slive, something will get done. Slive doesn't give two ***** if a low tier school gets in trouble. He only cares about protecting national championships.

 

[RBDog82]

A pretty strong source (go ahead, flame away) said Tunsil got $5k from the Bears just to visit. Not sure what has happened $$$ wise since then, but obviously it went well for the guy.

 

[AlSwearengen]

Translation: ..........................................................

Cookie jar = Mississippi booster

Hands = Tunsil Mama/Daddy, Tunsil preacher, Tunsil handler.

That is how they work. We have seen it over here time and again. They will find someone that can be bought off, even if it isn't the recruit himself.

 

[AlSwearengen]

Like I've said in the past, if they can get them on campus, they start feeling really good about a prospect. Is there a better way to get a top recruit to visit than to give them a little down payment on what will be offered once they get to campus?

 

[BigDog72.sixpack]

You forgot to mention Schlabach.
He's the one tweeting this. Hello???

TSUN doesn't realize that they are about to get caught up in the "Don't mess with the big boys" storm. Just look back at the history of this conference. Auburn didn't get burned because they produced massive revenue. Same for Bama, Georgia, FL, and LSU. Tenn did all of that crap with Kiffen and what has happened? Now, somebody will have to be the fall guy and they have set themselves up perfectly for that role.

 

[gtowndawg]

What Flabloser said basically...

It's not because we are complaining (Slive doesn't care about us) but other "bigger" schools are complaining and that's getting people's attention at the SEC and NCAA offices.

while Slive is around. He carries a lot of weight and his number one goal is keeping all SEC teams off serious probation so its a totally different environment now than it was back in the old Albert Means era. Another reason things have gotten as bad as they are now, when people realize there is very little consequence for cheating there is not much motivation not to.

 

[Negative Waves]

Someone in the SEC will eventually be turned into a sacrificial lamb for the NCAA. It will not be one of the big schools, but someone like us, Arkansas, or Ole Miss. With the way UM is recruiting, hopefully it'll be them. Unfortunately, the NCAA probably come after us because of someone holding tires for 45 minutes on a credit card, $20 handshakes, or free stays at the Ramada Inn.

 

[Wicked Pissah]

Not every recruit they offer money to visit visits.
they really get pissed when someone takes the money to visit but never shows up.

just theories. Nothing to back this up. General discussion on a slow tuesday

 

[Shmuley]

So is that the oxford chamber of commerce going rate for 5 star visits this year?

[/yes, I'm aware that this line of questioning could hit close to home, idiot bears, so F off].

 

[UIUCDog]

Damn. Bears are turning a lot of heads these days, and not in a good way. I wonder if Freeze will be able to keep his teeth shut on the Twitters after hearing this.

ETA: Oops, should’ve replied to main post. Insert dubmass tutorial.

 

[muddawgs]

Well Ole Miss is not only pissing off other SEC schools

while Slive is around. He carries a lot of weight and his number one goal is keeping all SEC teams off serious probation so its a totally different environment now than it was back in the old Albert Means era. Another reason things have gotten as bad as they are now, when people realize there is very little consequence for cheating there is not much motivation not to.

so ole Slive may not have a leg to stand on when the NCAA visits. But I have a feeling Slive is going to protect his cash cows and Ole Miss is not one of em.

 

[Wicked Pissah]

i wish we did it like them instead of crying about i.
fact is, their alumni care more about winning football games than ours do.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

how their career starts and how it ends are going to be two separate things. Seems great now, but the NCAA man cometh. Freeze knows it's coming and that has nothing to do with the stuff that is already being looked at under Nutt's time.

Three Words: Cam 17ing Newton

Any talk of pending investigations is just that...talk. If a recruits dad admits that he was shopping his son and nothing was done, then nothing will ever get done. Please quit posting that kind of stupidity. Whatever happens, I have ZERO faith that Ole Miss will be punished (even if they are cheating their asses off). The people who think they will are the same rubes who thought Lance Armstrong was doing it clean!

 

[DerHntr]

"fact is, their alumni care more about winning football games than ours do. "

TRANSLATION:

Their alumni care less about rules and regulations of the governing body of sports. I can't really blame them too much for it though. I just hope they get caught.

 

[Wicked Pissah]

Yep go all in. What is the worst that could happen? We go 4-8 for 5 years....wait....

 

[thf24]

Bama, UGA, MSU, and probably UF are really pissed at Ole Miss. When a handful of big boys complain to Slive, something will get done. Slive doesn't give two ***** if a low tier school gets in trouble. He only cares about protecting national championships.

This. Slive isn't going to protect a school that isn't in a position to directly offer the conference something, especially when it's chipping at the foundations of schools that are. I also feel like he's probably looking for someone to make an example out of to take some national heat off of him after Auburn in 2010.

 

[Predestined]

No worries. Their lawyers will figure out how to take a tax deduction

on the no shows.

 

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

you aren't 100% accurate there.

Something certainly would have been done IF Auburn hadn't had been 9 or 10-0. If the Barn had lost 2 games and were sitting in 2nd or 3rd in the SECW, the hammer would have already dropped. It was all about Slive protecting the NC for the SEC. Plain and Simple.

 

[TSUNBearHunter]

Mark Schlabach ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>Mark_Schlabach
Laremy Tunsil's coach: "Once you start getting a lot of people w/their hands in the cookie jar, it's hard for kid to make a good decision."

This guy played under Richt at FSU.

Is anyone surprised that he may be upset that his player may not sign with his good friend at UGA or his own alma mater in FSU? I'm shocked.

You can read the articles from before OM was in the picture and Tunsil states that he will sign with a school that has coaches he enjoys being around. Then when you read the articles about his interest in OM, he talks about the relationship with our coaches and how much he enjoys being around them.

 

[UIUCDog]

Riiiiiiiiiiight. It’s all sour grapes.

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Serious question for the "OM is about to get the death penalty" folks

It's always been my understanding that the coaches generally don't turn one another in, either because of Slive and his protect the SEC mandate, or because all of the coaches know where each other's skeletons are hidden. So if all the coaches know where the skeletons are buried, then do you really think the coaches are going to be uncovering those skeletons for the SEC/NCAA?

I'm with the skeptics, especially in light of the Cam Newton deal. If the skeletons weren't shown the light of day on that deal, then why would they be now? All of you in this thread seem to think that Ole Miss has pissed off all the big boys and those schools aren't going to take it. You may be right about the message board heros and some boosters, but do you think the coaches are going to start that war? Maybe the coaches are dropping hints without getting too far into it, but I'm not sure I see them going all in, and exposing themselves at the same time. Let's not be naive either, all the SEC coaches have skeletons buried in the ground.

I think this is where Slive comes in. The coaches run to Slive bitching about Ole Miss. Slive goes to Freeze, who then tells him that if he comes after him he'll go full throttle on digging up everyone's skeletons, throwing PIs and all sorts of **** on it (not like they haven't done that before). Slive works out some lesser deal to satisfy the blood hungry wolves and everyone goes about their business. That's just as plausible as all the **** being tossed around on here today. Besides, they don't have Bracky to go ahead and report all this.

 

[rabiddawg]

So I am have often wondered what keeps these kids from talking about where they get their money from boosters at OM and it struck me. Bobby Lowder made every coach while he was there sign non-disclosure agreement stating basically if the coach talked about anything that happened at AU the school would sue the **** out of him whether he is still there or not. I think these boosters make the parents sign same kind of agreement. If parents rat out athletic booster then booster has every right to destroy parent. And Ole Miss would have no shortage of law students that would be willing to prosecute.

 

[AlSwearengen]

So, you guys **** in the wrong backyard on this one then.

 

[cheewgumm]

Ha...amen.

 

[ckDOG]

Did they ever "close the loopholes"?

Three Words: Cam 17ing Newton

Any talk of pending investigations is just that...talk. If a recruits dad admits that he was shopping his son and nothing was done, then nothing will ever get done. Please quit posting that kind of stupidity. Whatever happens, I have ZERO faith that Ole Miss will be punished (even if they are cheating their asses off). The people who think they will are the same rubes who thought Lance Armstrong was doing it clean!

Is it still technically possible to do what Cecil did and not have it impact their child's amateur status? I thought they were going to tidy up the rule book to make sure it never happened again since they allowed themselves to be taken advantage of.

Plus, you have to remember that Auburn was exposed during the middle of a push at the National Championship. That's big money to the SEC and made them biased toward protecting Auburn. I still feel the conference and NCAA handles it very differently if all that stuff came to light early in the season. If OM gets outed on anything sooner than later, I seriously doubt they will be a key player in the NC narrative. There would be no reason for the NCAA to go light on them. Maybe Slive wants to keep the conference squeaky clean image in tact, but pissing in FSU's cheerios isn't going to grant them any sort of SEC office protection.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Cam would have probably sat out the entire season and been declared ineligible if it hadn't come out directly before the championship game. That put the NCAA in a tough spot.

 

[TSUNBearHunter]

So, you guys **** in the wrong backyard on this one then.

Whose backyard are yall shitting in?

 

[godlluB]

I've heard (third hand, but through a pretty good source), that three SEC schools have already submitted complaints about Ole Miss for recruiting violations this season, and no, MSU isn't one of them.

 

[dawgs.sixpack]

So I am have often wondered what keeps these kids from talking about where they get their money from boosters at OM and it struck me. Bobby Lowder made every coach while he was there sign non-disclosure agreement stating basically if the coach talked about anything that happened at AU the school would sue the **** out of him whether he is still there or not. I think these boosters make the parents sign same kind of agreement. If parents rat out athletic booster then booster has every right to destroy parent. And Ole Miss would have no shortage of law students that would be willing to prosecute.

i seriously doubt a non-disclosure agreement would stand in this kind of situation. not only would tbe payments be breaking the rules, they'd likely be breaking the law, either because the family didn't pay taxes or the "buying" of players violates the school's tax exempt status, or whatever. a non-disclosure agreement isn't enforceable against a former employee if they go to the feds and disclose all the company's illegal dealings.

 

[AlSwearengen]

Whose backyard are yall shitting in?

I don't know of a recruit of tunsil's rating that we are after that would be considered questionable. We were on Chris Jones when he was a nobody and if we do **** in your backyard and land Conner (which I doubt) we are taking a recruit from olemiss not georgia. Big difference there buddy.

 

[cofreb]

Let me guess:

Bama and Florida are two of them. They are so pissed that they only have the #1 and #2 'crootin classes and that they've only taken, jointly, 3 commits from Ole Miss while losing none of their commits to us.

 

[LawDawg97]

Usually NDAs are used to protect proprietary business information, so I could see an employee (i.e. the assistant coach) being forced to sign one

But what are you saying they would do to "enforce" the agreement upon an outside party like a recruit's parent? Not sure how a booster could "destroy" a parent if the parent told the NCAA a rules violation was committed. The booster would be open to criminal prosecution if they started harrassing the parent or exacting some kind of vengeance. I doubt you would be successful walking into a courtroom waiving a non disclosure agreement and asking a jury to grant a booster damages because a parent told on him.

 

[godlluB]

The SEC East team is Georgia, not Florida. Alabama is one of them. The other team is in the SEC west, and I'm not sure what they have to be pissed about.

 

[RBDog82]

I've heard FSU, LSU and Alabama have turned the Bears in and all three have very strong evidence against the Bears.