random Sunday thoughts on our coaching search

[Coach34]

1. There's not going to be a press conference tomorrow to hire a new coach. Wardlaw is going to be 1 for 2

2. Kenny Payne- he is being pushed by the boosters because he is the black version of Stansbury- circa 1995. And he is from Mississippi. We have heard his name from Day 1 of this search. I think Strick knows this and feels like I do- that we need an actual HC, and we can have an asst be "The Recruiter". If we end up with Payne, we missed out on someone bigger

3. Joe Dooley- was a head coach at a very young age by college basketball standards- so obviously somebody saw some great potential in him. And he actually did better than what they were used to doing, just not enough. Now he has had some more years to mature, and has worked under the guy I think is one of the top 3 coaches in all of college basketball right now. Rated the top asst in the country recently. If he is chosen, I dont think you should be disappointed at all. And you would have to think he learned from his previous head coaching stint, and will do all he can to make this one successful. I think he would be an improvement over what we have had recently- and that's what we are looking for right?

4. Only a couple of people really know what Strick is thinking. Hell, there were significant boosters that thought the day before Stansbury "retired" that he was returning for another year. So let's not get caught up in all the rumors so much right now unless you just want DS to have the hits this month.

5. I find it hilarious the same people that have thought Stansbury elevated our program so much over the years are the same ones running their mouths now saying we cant hire anybody decent because our program sux and "we are just lil ol Mississippi State".

6. Saying Phil Cunningham should be our interim coach for a year may be the single, most ignorant post I've read on here since Ronny Atmosphere said we will regret firing Crooms.

7. We told a guy in Scott Drew, and his two Elite 8's we werent interested in him because of his reputation. So I got alot of faith in Strick right now to make a good hire

8. I havent heard anything the last few days, but I still think we hire a guy that's a head coach somewhere. Just a hunch

 

[Coach34]

1. There's not going to be a press conference tomorrow to hire a new coach. Wardlaw is going to be 1 for 2

2. Kenny Payne- he is being pushed by the boosters because he is the black version of Stansbury- circa 1995. And he is from Mississippi. We have heard his name from Day 1 of this search. I think Strick knows this and feels like I do- that we need an actual HC, and we can have an asst be "The Recruiter". If we end up with Payne, we missed out on someone bigger

3. Joe Dooley- was a head coach at a very young age by college basketball standards- so obviously somebody saw some great potential in him. And he actually did better than what they were used to doing, just not enough. Now he has had some more years to mature, and has worked under the guy I think is one of the top 3 coaches in all of college basketball right now. Rated the top asst in the country recently. If he is chosen, I dont think you should be disappointed at all. And you would have to think he learned from his previous head coaching stint, and will do all he can to make this one successful. I think he would be an improvement over what we have had recently- and that's what we are looking for right?

4. Only a couple of people really know what Strick is thinking. Hell, there were significant boosters that thought the day before Stansbury "retired" that he was returning for another year. So let's not get caught up in all the rumors so much right now unless you just want DS to have the hits this month.

5. I find it hilarious the same people that have thought Stansbury elevated our program so much over the years are the same ones running their mouths now saying we cant hire anybody decent because our program sux and "we are just lil ol Mississippi State".

6. Saying Phil Cunningham should be our interim coach for a year may be the single, most ignorant post I've read on here since Ronny Atmosphere said we will regret firing Crooms.

7. We told a guy in Scott Drew, and his two Elite 8's we werent interested in him because of his reputation. So I got alot of faith in Strick right now to make a good hire

8. I havent heard anything the last few days, but I still think we hire a guy that's a head coach somewhere. Just a hunch

 

[Coach34]

1. There's not going to be a press conference tomorrow to hire a new coach. Wardlaw is going to be 1 for 2

2. Kenny Payne- he is being pushed by the boosters because he is the black version of Stansbury- circa 1995. And he is from Mississippi. We have heard his name from Day 1 of this search. I think Strick knows this and feels like I do- that we need an actual HC, and we can have an asst be "The Recruiter". If we end up with Payne, we missed out on someone bigger

3. Joe Dooley- was a head coach at a very young age by college basketball standards- so obviously somebody saw some great potential in him. And he actually did better than what they were used to doing, just not enough. Now he has had some more years to mature, and has worked under the guy I think is one of the top 3 coaches in all of college basketball right now. Rated the top asst in the country recently. If he is chosen, I dont think you should be disappointed at all. And you would have to think he learned from his previous head coaching stint, and will do all he can to make this one successful. I think he would be an improvement over what we have had recently- and that's what we are looking for right?

4. Only a couple of people really know what Strick is thinking. Hell, there were significant boosters that thought the day before Stansbury "retired" that he was returning for another year. So let's not get caught up in all the rumors so much right now unless you just want DS to have the hits this month.

5. I find it hilarious the same people that have thought Stansbury elevated our program so much over the years are the same ones running their mouths now saying we cant hire anybody decent because our program sux and "we are just lil ol Mississippi State".

6. Saying Phil Cunningham should be our interim coach for a year may be the single, most ignorant post I've read on here since Ronny Atmosphere said we will regret firing Crooms.

7. We told a guy in Scott Drew, and his two Elite 8's we werent interested in him because of his reputation. So I got alot of faith in Strick right now to make a good hire

8. I havent heard anything the last few days, but I still think we hire a guy that's a head coach somewhere. Just a hunch

 

[MemphisMaroonClubDog]

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[cheat2win]

Your thoughts on telling Scott Drew no? I think it is a terrible move. No big hire coaches have "shady" backgrounds.... I mean Cal was squeaky clean right?

 

[Coach34]

In the next couple of years- so I agree with what he did. Considering Strick has all these Baylor ties- you have to think he made a pretty informed decision.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

I know of very few influential boosters who are pushing for Payne. Furthermore, I don't think Stricklin is being told whom to hire. Since we all know you hate Cunningham that was just thrown in to get one more shot in. Phil probably will be somewhere else but if you think keeping a current assitant for at least a year to solidify this recruiting class is not smart, then you know nothing about how kids think.

 

[dawgstudent]

as interim if our choice is to hire Dooley.

 

[patdog]

And he would be in a position to know more than most about Drew. Still hoping for the Ohio coach, but I'd be OK with Dooley or the Murray St. coach.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I understand Stansbury stole your girl, but it's time to let it go. He's gone.

 

[Daledog]

"5. I find it hilarious the same people that have thought Stansbury elevated our program so much over the years are the same ones running their mouths now saying we cant hire anybody decent because our program sux and "we are just lil ol Mississippi State". "

Ummmm I think we are right. No big mid major conference coach is looking at us and Joe Dooley might be our number 1 right now.His only head coaching experience was at ECU and they never won more than 17 games in 4 years. In addition, they got worse under his coaching. His coaching record in his 4 seasons at ECU is as follows: 17-11, 17-10, 10-17, and 13-14. I'm not saying that Dooley is going to be bad, he might be great but I would never say that he would be a "good" hire.

 

[AROB44]

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[Coach34]

as DS pointed out about Cunningham- somebody posted that- my "agenda" has been put in action already- as you well know.

And Payne is being pushed, whether you know it or not...you always act like there isnt a bunch of crap going on behind the scenes, when we all know damn well there is.
Just take a deep breath, go for a walk in the mall today to clear your head with your black socks pulled up to your knees while wearing shorts- and everything will be ok.

 

[Coach34]

but this post had nothing to do with Stansbury- he is our former coach. We are looking to the future Corky

 

[Daledog]

I think you are worried that are going to look like a complete fool. You have been wanting Stansbury to get fired for the last 3 years saying that we could attract a big time coach. It is certainly not looking like that right now. Don't get me wrong, Stans layed an egg this year and it's time to move on but you have been wanting this coaching change for far too long.

 

[Coach34]

We havent hired anyone- so how exactly are you right? You have no idea who has been interviewed. Gregg Marshall is still out there- how do you know he whether he was interviewed or not? How do you know Strick didnt stop the interview with Marshall after 20 minutes and said- "this just wouldnt be a good fit"

That was my point- you dont know what is going on right now or who we are focused on...so, you arent right about ****

 

[Coach34]

I think you are worried that are going to look like a complete fool. You have been wanting Stansbury to get fired for the last 3 years saying that we could attract a big time coach. It is certainly not looking like that right now. Don't get me wrong, Stans layed an egg this year and it's time to move on but you have been wanting this coaching change for far too long.

I think a retarded monkey would be an upgrade- so do you think I'd really be upset with us hiring the guy that's considered one of the top assistants in the country?

Now, if we hire Payne- you can give me some ****- because I dont consider that upgrading- just more of the same.

 

[TX Mud Dawg]

be interested in tripling or quadrupling their salary. Post less and think more.

 

[coursesuper]

do you live under a rock. These things are run by the people that give the most money, just like a country club. Do you really think that any AD in the SEC make these choices like this ina bubble.

 

[Daledog]

be interested in tripling or quadrupling their salary. Post less and think more.

Your post makes me laugh for 2 reasons:
1. "be interested in tripling or quadrupling their salary"Is that your arguement???? There hasn't been a single big time mid major coach that has been interested in our job other thanthe Murray State coach (who has coached for all of 1 season) despite being able to "triple or quadruple" a salary.
2. "post less and think more" This is my 14th post everyou dumb17.

 

[BillBraskyDOG]

That's funny, because noone thinks you know what's going on either. Because you don't.

 

[CadaverDawg]

How could you say that Dooley would "not be a good hire"? Maybe not a huge Headliner hire, but a good hire for sure. Dooley has consistently been regarded as one of the top assistants and top recruiters in the country. He may have had an early stint that wasn't spectacular at ECU, but you can't forget that it was ECU for goodness sake. He has been mentoring under Bill Self for the past several seasons and I would think he learned a ton about the X's and O's from Self while there. So, combine what he has learned from Self with his ability to recruit, and we should definitely be upgrading with a hire like Dooley. Of course, nobody can answer that question until he coaches for us, but to say he would not be a "good hire" is a stupid comment.

 

[patdog]

And that was 18-16 last year. Hell, his 2 17 win seasons are 2 of the 3 best seasons they've had since 1975 (he was an assistant for the other one). He's not my top choice, but I don't think his record at ECU should be a dealbreaker at all.

 

[CadaverDawg]

how in the f*ck do you know who has shown interest in our job or not? You want to act like people are wrong, but they are likely no more uninformed than you are.

 

[KurtRambis4]

continue to mention him, other than to be a douche?

 

[Daledog]

How could you say that Dooley would "not be a good hire"? Maybe not a huge Headliner hire, but a good hire for sure. Dooley has consistently been regarded as one of the top assistants and top recruiters in the country. He may have had an early stint that wasn't spectacular at ECU, but you can't forget that it was ECU for goodness sake. He has been mentoring under Bill Self for the past several seasons and I would think he learned a ton about the X's and O's from Self while there. So, combine what he has learned from Self with his ability to recruit, and we should definitely be upgrading with a hire like Dooley. Of course, nobody can answer that question until he coaches for us, but to say he would not be a "good hire" is a stupid comment.

Making a "good hire" isvery relative depedentupon the schooland situation. Dooley could be great for us. But firing acoach that consistently won more than 20 games and replacing himwith a coachwhose only experience as a head coachsaw his total win count decrease from 17 to 13 over the course of 4years,can NOTbe viewed as agood hire. You areright, he might havelearned a lotwhile at Kansas and he might be a stud, but nobody knowswhether he will be a good head coach or not.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

as interim if our choice is to hire Dooley.

all I know is coach always says he is right and I am sure that is incorrect. He might have a hunch or something he really wants to happen but nobody right now has any idea what Stricklin is doing because he is keeping it close to the vest just like Byrne did. I still stand by my post that it would make sense to keep an assistant to make sure wekeep our signing class. Has nothing to do with Stansbury but just a smart business decision.

 

[Daledog]

be interested in tripling or quadrupling their salary. Post less and think more.

One more thing against your well thought out arguement.....Gregg Marshall turned down 2 million from Nebraska 4 days ago. I'd love to hear your rebuttal though.

 

[CadaverDawg]

You're ignoring the fact that he is one of the top assistants on a yearly basis and an excellent recruiter. He would be a "good" hire. Like I said, maybe not Great, but definitely good

 

[Daledog]

how in the f*ck do you know who has shown interest in our job or not? You want to act like people are wrong, but they are likely no more uninformed than you are.

Maybe you're right. Maybe we have interviewed Brad Stevens and Shaka Smart. Maybe Gregg Marshall turned down Nebraska's 2 million so he could come and make 2 millionin Mississippi.Idoubt it though.

 

[Coolbone]

When I googled "best college basketball assistant coaches" and read some of the rankings that have been produced, Joe Dooley's name keeps popping up. Kenny Payne never gets mentioned. Antigua is the Kentucky assistant that gets mentioned. Dooley keeps being mentioned as a great recruiter, and Payne's name never comes up. The best articles I could find are linked below.

Other thoughts: What is Drew's reputation? I don't know much about him. Also, re: Dooley's first head coaching experience not being a good one - Remember there are a lot of head coaches that failed their first time around. The best example that comes to mind is Belichick.

Bleacher Report ranked Dooley #6 assistant coach recruiter

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/the-top-25-high-major-assistants

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-recruiters081910

 

[JxnDawg39211]

here is an article written about him basically stating that all of the other Big XII dont like him because they know he cheats his *** off . Also read where he hired John Wall's AAU coach to be apart of his staff a couple of years ago. You could say this game between him and Calapari feature the two biggest coaches in America who "play the game" the best

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/ncaa-tournament-2012-baylors-scott-drew-tries-to-alter-perceptions-of-his-ability-ethics/2012/03/14/gIQAtAwrCS_story.html

 

[DAWG61]

as interim if our choice is to hire Dooley.

that Phil should be named interim right now until the coach is hired. I DID NOT say for a year. It might be for one week but naming him interim right now will help with our signed players and with Pollard. The point I'm trying to make is that Stricklin is trying to hire this coach ASAP for the sake of the recruits but giving himself such a short deadline will most likely mean he is not able to hire the best coach. Instead he will rush his hire and miss out on a better one. Naming Phil interim just frees up more time for Stricklin to find the best option for MSU. Give Scott only two weeks and you'll get Joe Dooley. Give him 2 months and he might be able to snag a much bigger fish. How terrible is it to give Phil the title of interim for 2 months? The new coach doesn't have to keep him but the extra time given Stricklin might make all the difference in determining how great a hire he can make.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

as interim if our choice is to hire Dooley.

that Phil should be named interim right now until the coach is hired. I DID NOT say for a year. It might be for one week but naming him interim right now will help with our signed players and with Pollard. The point I'm trying to make is that Stricklin is trying to hire this coach ASAP for the sake of the recruits but giving himself such a short deadline will most likely mean he is not able to hire the best coach. Instead he will rush his hire and miss out on a better one. Naming Phil interim just frees up more time for Stricklin to find the best option for MSU. Give Scott only two weeks and you'll get Joe Dooley. Give him 2 months and he might be able to snag a much bigger fish. How terrible is it to give Phil the title of interim for 2 months? The new coach doesn't have to keep him but the extra time given Stricklin might make all the difference in determining how great a hire he can make.

 

[Coach34]

"but there are coaches out there wondering how we could force a coach into retirement<span style="text-decoration:underline"></span> who was third in the league in wins in the past decade"


Now when I said that over a week ago on 247, you argued with me over and over saying that Stansbury just retired because he was burned out- we didnt force him into anything. So now, after all that ********- you are finally admitting what most of us knew already?

 

[dawgstudent]

You really think a recruit wouldn't see through that. Come on. This isn't like we have games left to play. I really don't think naming Cunningham an interim coach for the next month or so is a great idea. Actually, to me, its a stupid idea.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Last week it was Reggie Miller, this week it's Phil as interim. Neither is worse than the other, but is all about the same quality.

He's the rugbdawg of basketball.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

but this post had nothing to do with Stansbury- he is our former coach. We are looking to the future Corky

Do you really expect anyone to take you serious when you say that and have 3 sigs about Stansbury in your posts?

 

[Dawgbreeze]

"but there are coaches out there wondering how we could force a coach into retirement<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> who was third in the league in wins in the past decade"


Now when I said that over a week ago on 247, you argued with me over and over saying that Stansbury just retired because he was burned out- we didnt force him into anything. So now, after all that ********- you are finally admitting what most of us knew already?

 

[TX Mud Dawg]

its +*%@@%% Nebraska of course he would turned them down. They suck at
basketball and always have. The basketball programs at Nebraska will
always behind their football program, women's volleyball and the
baseball team. Yes they just built a new arena but the head basketball
coaching job there is the equivalent of the Duke football job. No one
cares! If you don't MS is a more attractive job than Nebraska you are sadly mistaken.

You totally missed the post less joke. All you offered in your post was a bunch of cry baby ******** about how no one is interested in our job. You should take a step back and listen to some the of older posters like coach because I promise we are more in the know then you.