Randy Gregory suspended ?

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They're protecting you.....from you. But people can still drink themselves to death .
The original post had to do with RG being suspended for four games. The NFL is an employer. An employer has every right to expect employees to be sober at work. This is especially true if an employee drives, operates machinery, or handles critical decisions, such as a surgeon. Alcohol is burned off at a rate of approximately 1 oz per hour depending on the person's weight, sex, and liver condition. A blood test accurately reveals the person's state of sobriety. Alcohol is usually no longer in the system after 12 hours. A person can still be affected (hungover, tired, dazed), and employers have to deal with that too, but it is much harder legally to get the person help or fire him or her if he or she is habitually hungover, but tests negative. Cannabis is different since delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is detectable in the system for between 5 days to months depending on frequency of use. It is therefore impossible to tell whether your employee got high before coming to work, or last weekend. It can also be argued that since THC is fat soluble (which is why it stays in the system so long), it releases back into the bloodstream on a "time-delayed" basis, so a habitual user who smokes every night is basically high all the time.

There are lots of people like me who don't care about the morality, gateway drug, lung damage, religious, etc. arguments against pot. But we do care about the inability of determining whether employees are high on the job. I assume the NFL still tests for it because of that. Also, I have zero problem with someone torching a doobie or bowl; however, I think someone who gets in an accident or is driving erratically and tests positive for THC should have the same consequences as someone with a BAC over the legal limit for the reason I mention above (don't know whether he smoked last week or last hour).

So - Jimmy Frank, I'm not sure if your post is 1) advocating outlawing drinking 2) Relaxing workplace and motor vehicle rules so people who are drunk don't get in trouble since people who are high don't, or 3) Propose an unequal system where people can be high at work and on the roads, but can't be drunk.
 

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...until you witness its destructive effects on someone you love, your family, and beyond.
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Did you hear about the study that there's more rapes on days a college plays a football game?

If something
They're protecting you.....from you. But people can still drink themselves to death .
Which happens like a million percent more than smoke yourself to death from weed.
 

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Did you hear about the study that there's more rapes on days a college plays a football game?

If something

Which happens like a million percent more than smoke yourself to death from weed.
I did it several years ago and smoking it made me laugh, then I'd get tired from laughing and fall asleep. Waking up with 0 hangover too. Good thing it's illegal lol.
 

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I think it's dangerous, because I'd destroy to many nacho's when I smoked it. It could of made me fat, in a society that is otherwise super fit!
 

Jnood

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Ohhhh, and the nacho's!! The poor poor nacho's! They're lucky it isn't legal!
 

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weed is a creeper, just say no

btw nobody went to jail for 11 years because they had a joint, google "priors"
 
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Shouldn't he be doing bath salts by now, since he has thoroughly explored this horrid gateway drug.
Not yet, he's still at the stage where he's back-sassing his parents and trying to 'get fresh' with his #1 girl.
 

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Some people keep saying weed is addictive. They don't specify what they mean. Do they mean physiologically or psychologically? My understanding is that it is far from clear that weed is physiologically addicting in the way cocaine, nicotine, and alcohol are. If what they mean is psychologically addicting, do they mean to say that it is worse than, say, pornography and video games? These also have the potential to be psychologically addicting. I am tempted to think that most people don't think these things ought to be outlawed because their existence runs the risk of addiction. If that's the case, they're employing a double standard.
 

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What maY BE MISSED HERE; there are many brands of MJ now. All types of effects and some effect different people with additional side effects. With legal MJ; there are different strains and shall we say additives. It is a for profit thing; its the wild west and bigger bangs bring bigger bucks. We are Naive... many anyway. I saw one documentary; that officials in N Y were baffled that some were giving up heroin for a sub-brand of "MJ" out of San Francisco. Sorry kids, this is possible; not grampys MJ. I have never tried it; but have had relationships end over my refusal to do so.
 

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The original post had to do with RG being suspended for four games. The NFL is an employer. An employer has every right to expect employees to be sober at work. This is especially true if an employee drives, operates machinery, or handles critical decisions, such as a surgeon. Alcohol is burned off at a rate of approximately 1 oz per hour depending on the person's weight, sex, and liver condition. A blood test accurately reveals the person's state of sobriety. Alcohol is usually no longer in the system after 12 hours. A person can still be affected (hungover, tired, dazed), and employers have to deal with that too, but it is much harder legally to get the person help or fire him or her if he or she is habitually hungover, but tests negative. Cannabis is different since delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is detectable in the system for between 5 days to months depending on frequency of use. It is therefore impossible to tell whether your employee got high before coming to work, or last weekend. It can also be argued that since THC is fat soluble (which is why it stays in the system so long), it releases back into the bloodstream on a "time-delayed" basis, so a habitual user who smokes every night is basically high all the time.

There are lots of people like me who don't care about the morality, gateway drug, lung damage, religious, etc. arguments against pot. But we do care about the inability of determining whether employees are high on the job. I assume the NFL still tests for it because of that. Also, I have zero problem with someone torching a doobie or bowl; however, I think someone who gets in an accident or is driving erratically and tests positive for THC should have the same consequences as someone with a BAC over the legal limit for the reason I mention above (don't know whether he smoked last week or last hour).

So - Jimmy Frank, I'm not sure if your post is 1) advocating outlawing drinking 2) Relaxing workplace and motor vehicle rules so people who are drunk don't get in trouble since people who are high don't, or 3) Propose an unequal system where people can be high at work and on the roads, but can't be drunk.

I'm advocating for not making laws that keep adults from doing what they'll do anyway. Its hypocritical, IMO, that booze and cigarettes are legal and weed isn't. I mean, Jfc, how many people do cigs kill a year alone and they're fn legal. If I want to play some blackjack or bet on a football game, do it illegally or go to Iowa, dumb. And I may not actually do any of those things but a law that says I can't is stupid. Just my 2c.
 

Jimmy Frank

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This is legal, how fd up is that.

  • Worldwide, tobacco use causes nearly 6 million deaths per year, and current trends show that tobacco use will cause more than 8 million deaths annually by 2030.2
  • Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including nearly 42,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.1
  • On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.3
  • If smoking continues at the current rate among U.S. youth, 5.6 million of today’s Americans younger than 18 years of age are expected to die prematurely from a smoking-related illness. This represents about one in every 13 Americans aged 17 years or younger who are alive today.1
 

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As a Cowboys fan, let me just say....well, this is not surprising news, at all.