Ranked 21 In Portal
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There is a possibility that the #21 ranking may fall after more schools begin to sign transfers to their rosters.
Yeah, you can't rebuild an entire O-line. If you calculated the minutes of playing time of those that left, I would suspect it is 98%. I know their play was substandard, but you gain chemistry and knowledge of the other players beside you on the line with playing time. Hard if not impossible to rebuild all and have any continuity. Unless we get more 5-star guys up front it will be the Lanorris escape show all over again. WE need at least 3 more BLUE chippers that can block-head hunters. maybe 4 more!!!
Problem is, the line showed little to no chemistry. Throughout the year we repeatedly heard from coaches and players alike that a problem was getting the OL to play as a unit.
I think we have to be better by default. We have an OL coach who has actually put OL in the NFL. Teasley was easily one of the worst P4 position coaches.
I'll take the 9-3 Lanorris escape show over 4-8.
Then is the Assessment of High school players that far off. How many of these guys were heralded 4-Star Recruits and end up being busts?
Markee Anderson 4 Star, J. Thompson high 4-star some listed as 5-Star, Tree B. 4-Star described as a beast. How can they all be that inept. Plus the massive one that never saw the field and transferred- Cam something- was a 5-star. Where is this complete void of competence coming from?
Cam should have been converted to Nose Guard and just put in to plug the middle.
Markee Anderson 4 Star, J. Thompson high 4-star some listed as 5-Star, Tree B. 4-Star described as a beast. How can they all be that inept. Plus the massive one that never saw the field and transferred- Cam something- was a 5-star. Where is this complete void of competence coming from?
Cam should have been converted to Nose Guard and just put in to plug the middle.
I assume it's a mashup of poor evaluation, players who just weren't as good as their HS ranking would indicate and poor coaching.
This OL was so bad and, by their own admission, didn't play well together as a unit, I don't really see what we're doing by bringing in a bunch of new guys as any different than a new OL coach working with the old OL players. Either way, I think you're starting from scratch.
I don't think there was a low risk move for Beamer here. You either try to retain intact an OL that was one of the worst in college football and just hope that a new coach can transform them OR you gut the position and ask a new OL coach to get a bunch of new players to play with chemistry.
We'll see how it pans out. Did we have any true bright spot on the OL this season? Anyone you could say "well, the OL suck but at least __________ is good". And, by "good" I mean "would be playing on other SEC teams".
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I may be nutz, but I think the OL clean out was intentional and that we're going to be better off. Much better off.
Peak is an absolute stud.
Poku is better than his portal rating, he's an instant starter.
Shedrick Sarratt is coming back and he'll be a key.
I think Purvis is just a body, but he's a freaking huge dude.
The two FCS dudes are interesting, smart, no risk pickups who can provide depth, but I don't see them as starters. If either ends up starting we probably got trouble.
In the incoming class we've got two studs:
Darius Gray (5 Star) he is going to have immediate impact and will compete to start at guard/center.
Zyon Guiles (4 Start) High ceiling dude, may be forced to play early.
We're hunting for at least one more in portal, but the pickings have gotten slim. We may end up one piece short. That said, we won't be any worse off, and I think we'll be improved.
Peak is an absolute stud.
Poku is better than his portal rating, he's an instant starter.
Shedrick Sarratt is coming back and he'll be a key.
I think Purvis is just a body, but he's a freaking huge dude.
The two FCS dudes are interesting, smart, no risk pickups who can provide depth, but I don't see them as starters. If either ends up starting we probably got trouble.
In the incoming class we've got two studs:
Darius Gray (5 Star) he is going to have immediate impact and will compete to start at guard/center.
Zyon Guiles (4 Start) High ceiling dude, may be forced to play early.
We're hunting for at least one more in portal, but the pickings have gotten slim. We may end up one piece short. That said, we won't be any worse off, and I think we'll be improved.
I don't feel we have significantly helped ourselves in the Portal. We are not going to "out talent" many of our opponents this coming season. What kind of season we have will come down to "coaching", just like it did in the successful parts of the Spurrier and Morrison eras. I'm not saying we have done poorly in the Portal. But we are not exactly killing it either.
These high school guys don't line up against college guys in high school; of course im sure you know this. High school guys get stars for weight alone. The really good ones (big, mean, AND smart) are id'ed early by the blue blood schools; significantly fewer of these guys than there are the so-called 'skill' guys so competing with the alabamas and georgias for the top shelf OL guys is tough. And unfortunately today you don't just move a Kam Pringle to nose guard; in his view thats not what he signed up for. He gone.
Ole Miss had an Olineman doing exactly that- clogging the middle and eliminating 7 yard off tackle plays like we allow.
To me a no-brainer to get talent on the field.
To me a no-brainer to get talent on the field.
Assume youre referring to Pegues (sp?). He was primarily DL that also was used at TE and fullback, some OG. Pretty rare in that he embraced it.
Indiana is winning with older players with experience versus highly rated younger dudes. I wonder what the experience level is of those coming....
We are currently ranked 26th nationally and 9th in the SEC. I have many times stated that it is hard to recruit in football to South Carolina and gave the reasons why. We have never had a Head Coach able to CONSISTENTLY recruit at a high level. That's why it is imperative that the Head Football Coach here at Carolina have coaching skills. that is, a good tactician, strategist, motivator, organizer and manager.
Cignetti produced 4 Top ten, 1 Top fifteen and 3 Top twenty teams at 3 schools prior to playing against FBS schedules. I suspect that Cignetti knows a thing or two about "coaching", as well.
For sure. I don't think anyone could have possibly predicted his instant success at IU of all places though. They are historically the worst P4 football team.
Cignetti has had 3 times at bat in the Portal. IU's portal class was ranked 10th two years ago. Last year, his second portal class was ranked 13th. This year, his portal class is currently ranked 4th. I come back to my original point: it's hard to recruit to South Carolina in football CONSISTENTLY at a high level. Indiana struck gold and silver in Cignetti. They have someone who has proven coaching skills at 3 schools and can recruit. Hopefully, Beamer will prove to have the coaching skills of a Spurrier and Morrison. If he does, that, at least would give us a chance to become nationally relevant. I don't believe we can get there if we place our hopes on bringing in the "Jimmys and the Joes". Bringing in the "Jimmys and the Joes" has been a difficult task at South Carolina.
If we have to make a coaching change at South Carolina, follow Indiana's model which was to hire someone who won at MULTIPLE sub-P4 schools such as, yes, Jamey Chadwell or someone with a similar background.
Cignetti is also a Saban coaching alumn, so I think that adds a little something extra.
If Muschamp does well at Texas, is it possible someone will give him a 3rd shot as Head Coach? I can't see it. But, you never know.
"There are two things infinite: 1. the universe and 2. human stupidity. But, I'm not certain about the universe".
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"There are two things infinite: 1. the universe and 2. human stupidity. But, I'm not certain about the universe".
--- Albert Einstein ----
If their D is lights out. Yeah, probably.
Coaches get recycled. Doubt it would be SEC unless it was somewhere like MSU.
So, no better than any other year. Sorry but the writing is on the wall at this point.
Beamer's terrible, atrocious hires at the OC and OL position spots along with the RB coach who didn't sign a single HS RB in 2 full years will be his downfall. It's like trying to patch the Hoover dam with a single can of silly puddy at this point. Won't work. Nice knowin' ya' Beamer. Good luck to you in 2027 wherever you wind up.
Yeah, Muschamp is proof that simply being on Saban's staff doesn't automatically make someone a good head coach. Muschamp is a very good defensive coach. Unfortunately, he isn't a very good head coach.
All of the hot coaches 5 years ago have been fired. IU just got lucky.
And how much is given for speed & athleticism?
We've had some huge & highly rated recruits that got embarassed by some smaller/quicker DL from teams like Wofford.
I hope these are some things our new coaches are looking at and possibly why we've let so many OL portal-out.