Ranking the RB's...

patdog

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But without seeing the link, I always figured McCluster would be under-rated by the "experts" and probably drafted lower than he should be because of his size. I think he's going to make some GM look like a genius though.</p>
 

dogfan96

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but his speed too... there is no wide side of the field in the NFL and he won't be able to get that corner so easily
 

DirtyLopez

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and McCluster is kinda scrawny. With his body as it is right now, I don't see how he is going to take alot of abuse. On the other hand, the rb from ucla that is with jacksonville (drew)and the rb from W.V. that was so good, they are small but not scrawny.
 

dogfan96

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they are set up to make the guys look good and the 40 times are almost ALWAYS faster than at the combine somehow.. If he consistently ran in the mid 4.5s at the combine, that's the number I trust more than that 4.4
 

RebelBruiser

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DirtyLopez said:
and McCluster is kinda scrawny. With his body as it is right now, I don't see how he is going to take alot of abuse. On the other hand, the rb from ucla that is with jacksonville (drew)and the rb from W.V. that was so good, they are small but not scrawny.

We'll see, but he handled the abuse of 25-30 touches a game in the SEC, and he didn't spend a lot of time running out of bounds. He also ran between the tackles a whole lot more than most people realize. He's a strong MFer too, and he's not afraid to try to run people over. I want to say Greg Hardy did only one more rep on the bench than he did at the combine, and Hardy's numbers weren't bad for a DE. The fact that he'll try to run people over may be his undoing, but he'll initiate the contact. Most guys his size aren't as fearless as he is. Jesse Grandy, for instance, doesn't have half the toughness McCluster does.

He got hurt once in his 4 year career at Ole Miss, and it was when he was a true freshman and got blindsided on a kickoff.

It's a common misconception that he has to be protected, simply because of his size, a misconception that even his coaches had. He may have to worry about it more in the NFL, but I wouldn't say he's fragile. Greg Hardy is a whole lot more fragile than McCluster, and he's twice his size.
 

patdog

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without any problems. He avoids the hit about as well as any RB I've ever seen and he's a lot more durable than he looks when he does get hit.
 

Todd4State

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Nutt used McCluster as the feature back for only about half of the season or so though. He also sat out against Northern Arizona, I presume to preserve him.

I'm not saying that he couldn't handle 30 touches a game or so, but he really didn't get the opportunity to do that for an entire season, so it's still an unknown.
 

coach66

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forty times. If McCluster is 4.59 then I would really like to see some of these legit 4.3 guys on a football field because McCluster is about as quick and fast as they come in my book and he is a football player. I would like to have him on my team. I do agree with some of the comments about durability, the NFL is a league of freaks physically and he might have a very difficult time staying healthy if used to any degree.
 

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UCantStop15 said:
they are set up to make the guys look good and the 40 times are almost ALWAYS faster than at the combine somehow.. If he consistently ran in the mid 4.5s at the combine, that's the number I trust more than that 4.4

I don't trust 40s period, because they tell you very little about football speed. If you want to know how fast a guy is, watch tape. The NFL doesn't do it that way though, because they like to have concrete data. I can't really say I blame them though, because when you're talking money in the range they are, it's important to have everything you can get on a guy.

I just think the 40 is a very flawed measure for football period, simply because how often do you start in a sprinter's stance or any stance and then take off in a straight line for 40 yards plus? Measure a guy's quickness with shuttle drills and things like that, and then measure a guy's top speed. Even with WRs, when they run a go route, usually there is some sort of double move involved before breaking to top speed.
 

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Todd4State said:
Nutt used McCluster as the feature back for only about half of the season or so though. He also sat out against Northern Arizona, I presume to preserve him.

I'm not saying that he couldn't handle 30 touches a game or so, but he really didn't get the opportunity to do that for an entire season, so it's still an unknown.

This is true, but no one is going to be asking him to take 30 touches per game in the NFL. My point was that he took a lot of touches and didn't have any issues. He got 12-15 touches per game all of 2008 and the first part of 2009 without trouble either.

Like I said, he's a whole lot more durable than Greg Hardy. People see someone's size and question durability. There may be something to that, but I think durability is more of a person to person deal than anything else. Some guys, regardless of size are and always will be injury prone. I'm not sure if it's the way their bodies are built or if it's the way they play, but some guys get hurt when they walk out to get the paper. Some guys can take hits all day and keep going. McCluster has only had one serious injury in his career that caused him to miss time, and it seemed a little bit like a freak injury to me, especially given the pounding he has taken without injury since then.

In the NFL, I would assume he'll be a 3rd down back/slot receiver/return man, and honestly he'd be better off if they limited him to 3rd down back and slot receiver. All the injury issues he's ever had have come on special teams. If he plays those roles, he'll probably be pretty durable in the NFL.
 

warchief

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Seems I remeber reading that on the Ledger's OM blog. Not sure though. But yeah, regardless of his 40 time if you can't look at some of those runs the dude had last year and tell he's fast as ****, then you need glasses.</p>
 

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Hardesty just seems destined for mediocrity to me...Tate I agree could be a better pro than college player but I really don't think he's the 5th best back in the draft.
 

dogfan96

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he can get up to full speed quicker than 95% of other guys.. then he can change direction and get BACK to full speed just as quickly. Although in the NFL, the narrow hash marks and overall better players will negate some of that.
 

windcrysmary

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is a 4.58...I've seen the dude play and he is a 4.4 guy ....one of the hardest guys to tackle in the open field as I've ever seen...

I don't give a **** what the paper says.. you don't leave SEC cornerbacks in the dust with 4.58 speed.... his 20 bench presses are tough and he took a hard hit in the egg bowl that I thought had broke his neck... dude shook it off and continued to play....

I will go on the record to say McCluster will have a couple of touch downs before the year is out....
 

Johnson85

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The guy's a dubmass. He's apparently picking up random articles off a news feed or google search and using solely what he finds in five minutes to form an "opinion." Hence, Mcluster's published 40 time from the combine makes him "not particularly fast" while the articles on Dixon's DUI makes him a guy with character issues. </p>
 

TBonewannabe

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There are a lot of runs that Dixon didn't get caught from behind either. Not saying McCluster isn't fast but he just might not have top end speed that people want him to have.
 

RebelBruiser

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youngster said:
is the dui what they are talking about. Seems like a pretty good kid to me....

That's probably it. The NFL had character questions about Michael Oher too, and the only trouble he'd had was whipping Antonio Turner's butt when Turner said some stuff he shouldn't have said. If every one of us went to the NFL combine, they'd probably have character flaws listed for at least half of us, maybe more, given how scrutinizing they are.
 

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warchief said:
Seems I remeber reading that on the Ledger's OM blog. Not sure though. But yeah, regardless of his 40 time if you can't look at some of those runs the dude had last year and tell he's fast as ****, then you need glasses.</p>
I can't decide if Ole Miss fans actually believe the stuff they type/say or say anything that comes to their mind to prove a point they are trying to make. It is amazing the excuses they come up with for everything. No,McClusterdid not slip. He ranthe forty at the combinetwo times and ran in the mid to upper 4.5's both times. He is very quick buthas average top end speed.
 

warchief

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For making an "excuse" by quoting a blog. Again, it doesn't matter anyway, he's obviously plenty fast anyway and will be getting paid some serious coin regardless.