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Cal didn’t only coach for 5 years.
Over Cal’s 15 years here he won more NCAA tournament games than any other coach.
Over that same period he also won more games against higher seeds than any other coach.
You can cherry pick to fuel confirmation bias all you want but it’s still cherry picking.
You’re on here 24x7 with negativity. That to me is a troll.
Agreed with 2 redshirts & 3 injured players- TOTAL MISCALCULATION. = $6.5 million
$6.5 million equals 2 STUDS.
He'll win a title and it will be, "He wouldn't have done that here if we kept him."
It's crazy to me y'all lie to yourselves like this when Cal left us. Say what you want about running him off, but he had the option to stay.
That guy and UKFuckboy are the biggest morons on this board. Just clueless and slow, wrong take on literally everything.
Context matters
2019 - Elite 8 loss with 2 key injuries to PJ and Reid who weren't 100%
2020 - No NCAA Tournament and we had an amazing team primed to make a run
2021 - Freshman heavy team playing in front of nobody during Covid. Not ideal
2022 - Disappointment for sure
2023 - Disappointment for sure
2024 - Another disappointment
NCAA Tournament isn't easy but if there was someone who could've righted the ship it was him.
Yeah, I bet you were saying this after the St Peters loss? I bet you also said it after the Oakland loss too. NOT.
The Cal you are fantasizing about, left after the 2015 season. Since then, he lost to Evansville (H), UNC Wilmington (H), Richmond (H), Robert Morris, Saint Peters and Oakland college and you're here trying to act like we were dumb for him accepting a job at another school? WTF?
I don't care lf Pope loses 15 games this year, he's still a better option than that carnival barker in Fayettville.
We were almost universally happy he left. He was very bad at the end of his tenure here! Ugly basketball and no tournament success for several years.
Why do you think people were so happy with Pope at first? It sure wasn't because of his resume. We just needed a change in the program. That doesn't mean Pope will be the right choice going forward.
UK was without 2 point guards and it's starting sf.
Cal's team was fully healthy, in fact, they got Fland back just before the tournament.
Lets go back 2 years, how did Cal do in the tournament? Had an absolutely loaded team. Had 2 lottery picks coming off the bench.
Let's go back 3 years, how did Cal do in the tournament? Had a returning NPOY, who was a generational rebounder.
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Sooo I didn't witness UK win 2 games in the tournament last year???
Wait, is that an excuse you have inked in there for 2021???
No sir, you don't get to use that excuse when Cal was the reason the roster was built that way. Cal was more interested in cutting NBA draft pick notches into his headboard than actually building rosters for winning games.
2 teams almost went undefeated that year, Cal went 9-16 while catering to beanpole BJ Boston.
But it's funny how he had 3 NBA talents on that team and got beat at home hy Richmond.
Uhh, no, but the fact remains, Cal won a total of 1 tournament game in 5 years, Pope won 2 his first year here. That is a fact.
But, in case you missed this entire thread, we have people saying we should have kept Cal instead and 1 guy said Pope had only 1 tournament win in 10 years, the post you replied to, merely corrected him.
Most likely, Pope is not the right guy, but neither was the version of Cal we had from 20-24.
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Neither Calipari post-2019 nor current day Pope should be options for UK MBB. We should not have kept Cal, and we should not have hired Pope. Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
Joined yesterday^^ no one is settling for it.
8-9, 15-6, 12-12, 15-9 16-11 These are UNCheat's records Dean Smith's first five years.
17-13, 10-17,11-17 These are Puke's records Coach K's first 3 years.
16-16, 17-12 These are Tom Izzo's first two years at MSU.
9-19, 20-14, 18-13 These are Jim Calhoun's first three years at UConn.
13-17, 14-15 These are Billy Donovan's first 2 years at Florida.
There are no guarantees as to what Coach Pope will accomplish going forward but these are good examples of why you shouldn't necessarily write someone off after one solid season (despite inheriting an empty roster and horrendous luck with injuries) and eight games into year 2 (also plagued by bad luck with injuries).
17-13, 10-17,11-17 These are Puke's records Coach K's first 3 years.
16-16, 17-12 These are Tom Izzo's first two years at MSU.
9-19, 20-14, 18-13 These are Jim Calhoun's first three years at UConn.
13-17, 14-15 These are Billy Donovan's first 2 years at Florida.
There are no guarantees as to what Coach Pope will accomplish going forward but these are good examples of why you shouldn't necessarily write someone off after one solid season (despite inheriting an empty roster and horrendous luck with injuries) and eight games into year 2 (also plagued by bad luck with injuries).
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The hell he is. Pope likely won win anything here but I know for a fact Cal wouldn’t have. He was absolutely done and was on autopilot.
Where did I say that? I said he won twice as many games in his first year than Cal won in his last 5.
BJ Boston was the best player on every team we played. It was like he was trying to lose, that's how bad he played.
Then, Cal gets ejected at Mississippi State, we're down 15+ points. BJB goes to the bench, Dontaei Allen comes in and ends up winning the game.
Was it a fluke? No, no it wasn't, because it happened again in the SECT against the same team, we didn't win that one, but Allen brought UK back both times, while Cal's favorite player sat on the bench watching.