Reason #630954903094930 Why Our Compliance Dept. Needs Overhauling
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not tweeted at all...this is the problem with our 17ing compliance dept...not just Bracky, but the whole lot of them..They all worry too much about little **** like this and don't tell me you couldn't see them self reporting us because of "improper contact" because of a tweet or fbook post
Should have ignored it like EVERY other institution in the country does...
I know if I was a top 10 overall baseball prospect in the country, I would LOVE to have compliance folks stalking and then funhating all over my twitter feed... No bigger recruiting tool out there than that**
I know if I was a top 10 overall baseball prospect in the country, I would LOVE to have compliance folks stalking and then funhating all over my twitter feed... No bigger recruiting tool out there than that**
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I think they should STFU just like someone on here said. Recruits re-tweet at least 50 tweets a day from fans if they are worth a ****. Our compliance dept. doesn't spend enough time in the gray area and that's what you have to do in this world if you want to progress.
Ignore it, but if they have the burning desire to contact "In Left Field Today", then do so privately.
Jeebus Christo.
Calling a fan out on the carpet for something so trivial is just ridiculous. Nice first post, Bracky.
From a compliance perspective, the problem I have with it is this: Unless the NCAA REQUIRES that universities monitor recruits Twitter accounts, there is no reason whatsoever for this. It only serves to open the door for penalties in the future if some kind of infraction actually occurs via Twitter. The NCAA need only point back to this one and say "Well, we know that you monitor all recruits Twitter accounts, so why didn't you do anything about this?".
If it is absolutely required by the NCAA to monitor recruits social media and respond, then I get it. I honestly have no idea if it is required, but I can't imagine that it is. Of course the NCAA and stupid crap in one sentence wouldn't shock anyone...
If it is absolutely required by the NCAA to monitor recruits social media and respond, then I get it. I honestly have no idea if it is required, but I can't imagine that it is. Of course the NCAA and stupid crap in one sentence wouldn't shock anyone...
Bracky, is that you? You've got to be kidding.
How many tweets do UM fans send out to football recruits every 17'n day?
Yes, MSU responding to that tweet is petty and ridiculous. But, my question is, why do they respond to that tweet, but not the hundreds that Elijah retweets on a daily basis?
Not only is our compliance department awful, they are inconsistent at being awful, leaving everyone confused as to what is OK and what is not.
Not only is our compliance department awful, they are inconsistent at being awful, leaving everyone confused as to what is OK and what is not.
Who knows? I don't know what the NCAA rule is. All I know is that if any compliance department sets precedent by going over and above what is already mandated, it is stupid.
http://www.forwhomthecowbelltolls.c...ael-oher-commits-blatant-recruiting-violation
There's a few from Leigh Ann out there as well...
The correct way to handle it was to just to tweet out that "don't tweet recruits" info periodically -- while never going full retard and actually calling out fans that are.
Here you go.
I think that the assertion that our compliance guys are out in left field is probably not always fair. Read on:
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“The NCAA has no bylaw, policy or recommendation that directs schools to monitor social media,” said Naima Stevenson, associate general counsel at the NCAA. “We would certainly not ask member institutions to require student-athletes to provide username and password information for purposes of monitoring social networking activities.”
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"Different athletics departments will choose different methods of monitoring, but most compliance directors agree that ignoring social media completely is no longer an option. Keeping an eye on student-athletes with public social media accounts is within the bounds of even Delaware’s law.
Booz said he looks at social media monitoring through the lens of NCAA rules (for example, recruiting contacts and boosters contacting prospects). With that in mind, creating a compliance Twitter account and following boosters, local businesses and general fans – and not only watching what they are posting but also sending educational messages – can help.
“We can’t monitor every single recruit’s account, and I can’t monitor every single booster or fan. But we use the mechanism to get a presence,” he said. “Athletics departments, and particularly compliance offices, if they don’t have a Twitter presence, they should try to establish one.”
Judge believes education is an excellent use of social media for athletics departments. And despite all the pitfalls with the medium, she’s a big fan.
“It does amazing things and will create connections between people,” she said. “Student-athletes are going to use it no matter what anybody thinks. Even with monitoring and Twitter bans, these students are always two steps ahead. They’ll create new accounts. Keeping a hold on social media is impossible. The more important issue is that this has provided us an incredible window to use for educational purposes.”"
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect...ks+pose+monitoring+challenge+for+ncaa+schools
I think that the assertion that our compliance guys are out in left field is probably not always fair. Read on:
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“The NCAA has no bylaw, policy or recommendation that directs schools to monitor social media,” said Naima Stevenson, associate general counsel at the NCAA. “We would certainly not ask member institutions to require student-athletes to provide username and password information for purposes of monitoring social networking activities.”
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"Different athletics departments will choose different methods of monitoring, but most compliance directors agree that ignoring social media completely is no longer an option. Keeping an eye on student-athletes with public social media accounts is within the bounds of even Delaware’s law.
Booz said he looks at social media monitoring through the lens of NCAA rules (for example, recruiting contacts and boosters contacting prospects). With that in mind, creating a compliance Twitter account and following boosters, local businesses and general fans – and not only watching what they are posting but also sending educational messages – can help.
“We can’t monitor every single recruit’s account, and I can’t monitor every single booster or fan. But we use the mechanism to get a presence,” he said. “Athletics departments, and particularly compliance offices, if they don’t have a Twitter presence, they should try to establish one.”
Judge believes education is an excellent use of social media for athletics departments. And despite all the pitfalls with the medium, she’s a big fan.
“It does amazing things and will create connections between people,” she said. “Student-athletes are going to use it no matter what anybody thinks. Even with monitoring and Twitter bans, these students are always two steps ahead. They’ll create new accounts. Keeping a hold on social media is impossible. The more important issue is that this has provided us an incredible window to use for educational purposes.”"
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect...ks+pose+monitoring+challenge+for+ncaa+schools
I didn't read the entire ncaa bylaw and I may be wrong and let me know if I am, but I believe that's only for STUDENT ATHLETES and not RECRUITS/PROSPECTS. I'm not yelling, btw.
Some one creep is tweeting some HS kid and you find fault with the Compliance Department?
WOW
WOW
You guys should go check out Cory Thomas mentions. He gets tweeted at by Tennessee fans every 2 minutes.
And nothing will come of it. Really though what's the difference in a guy (as creepy as it is) tweeting at Joe 5 star Blow and a fan yelling "Come to school here!" when they're on their visit? I can name 1000000000 examples of recruits being paraded around campus so that people can act like they're in the presence of LeBron James. What is the difference? I was at the Texas-UM game (tailgated, didn't go in) last year to steal their women and the tailgate we were at lured some recruits that were wandering in to offer them whatever kind of food or just to talk to them. The act of giving them anything is illegal but can you not say hey?
The problem for me isn't as much about the compliance department doing their job but that they did it acting like an ***. Send a message directly to ILFT and do a general tweet, don't belittle someone who doesn't know any better. If NCAA asks about it you can show your reactive and curative actions without doing what they did. Just another example of incompetence.
After reading this thread I have learned that our twitter and facebook oriented fans should go forward with tweeting recruits since everyone else is going to do it too. Plus the NCAA won't do a damn thing about it.
Now, I reserve the right to call you a 17ing creep if you tweet our croots. I'll be a hypocrit about that for sure.
Now, I reserve the right to call you a 17ing creep if you tweet our croots. I'll be a hypocrit about that for sure.
Not only have I seen fans tweet recruits, but I have seen players tweet something along the lines of "My boy Recruit Joe Blow is costing this weekend. Let's show him how we do it. Everybody give him a follow." The recruits will keep count of how many new follows they get over an official visit. Now I hate to say it, but Ole Miss is the king of social media recruiting.
They're also the king of everything involving sleazy recruiting. They always feel like they've made the right choice though, that's why they choose to say their high school on Monday night football.
I like the way we're doing. We just need to kick off the 90 year old OC who couldn't relate to a single one our recruits and Hevesey who chooses to recruit 3rd string guards from LA community colleges.
I like the way we're doing. We just need to kick off the 90 year old OC who couldn't relate to a single one our recruits and Hevesey who chooses to recruit 3rd string guards from LA community colleges.
It is a little creepy. But I don't want our "playing field" to be any different than anyone else's. The fact that our compliance dept is jumping into a conversation acting as a hall monitor and babysitter online in regards to an ELITE baseball prospect that was on campus all weekend and left singing our praises simply can do NOTHING but hurt us with the athlete(especially when there was nothing truly wrong with the tweet). It's just stupid -- and with the razor thin margins of era in the game of recruiting, I can see why it would really hurt us with kids if it happens often.
This kid is a unanimous top 5 pitcher in the country for this class. Already visited us and Vandy -- planning to see Oregon, Arizona, and Clemson.
This kid is a unanimous top 5 pitcher in the country for this class. Already visited us and Vandy -- planning to see Oregon, Arizona, and Clemson.
It's amazing how absolutely stupid some of our fans are. Every single SEC program has fans who tweet at players, and nobody else's compliance department says **** about it. Sure, they'll go through the motions and send out a blanket "Don't tweet at recruits" tweet, but nothing will ever really be said or done about it. I heard there were hundreds of UM fans tweeting at Treadwell and Nkemdiche this Jan.-Feb. You know those guys ate that **** up too.
Is it a little creepy? Yeah, it's not something I'd want to do (I don't have twitter, but I'll check a few accounts occasionally), but if some of our fans want to do it, so be it. As long as they aren't tweeting anything rude or negative at the prospects, it can only help our chances. And if the NCAA tries to stop us, they'll have one hell of a double standard on their hands.
Is it a little creepy? Yeah, it's not something I'd want to do (I don't have twitter, but I'll check a few accounts occasionally), but if some of our fans want to do it, so be it. As long as they aren't tweeting anything rude or negative at the prospects, it can only help our chances. And if the NCAA tries to stop us, they'll have one hell of a double standard on their hands.
I don't see how tweeting recruits is "creepy" unless you include something personal. "Come to Our State!" or "#hailstate" is creepy? How is it any different than a billboard except that it's electronic? You really think it's creepier than weird crayon drawings with stick figures and "you're a baller" written on them? Not even close.