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what morons...
If the SEC west had 20 teams instead of 6, I do not believe you would be so close...
If the SEC west had 20 teams instead of 6, I do not believe you would be so close...
If you people are in such denial than to know how much of a seperation there is between the two teams... we may well win 20 in a row
I will say you guys beat Central Arkansas and Tulane. But the rest of your schedule is UTEP, Texas, TAMU, Bama, Arkansas, MSU, Auburn, LSU, UGA, and Vandy. Who the hell else are you going to beat in there? Don't say Vandy because they will have another decent team next year and have beaten you guys twice in a row. Don't say MSU because we've beaten you 3 years in a row and it hasn't really been close in any of those. UTEP maybe?
I see another 0-8 conference year for OM because the only team you match up with is Vandy, and even they havethe potential to be better than you next year. OM's ceiling is 4 games. Period. Anyone saying more than that is stupid.So if you guys win 3 games this year, you will have won 10 total games in 3 years and would have lost 22 SEC games in a row. THAT would be rock bottom, and that has a very real chance of happening. </p>
I see another 0-8 conference year for OM because the only team you match up with is Vandy, and even they havethe potential to be better than you next year. OM's ceiling is 4 games. Period. Anyone saying more than that is stupid.So if you guys win 3 games this year, you will have won 10 total games in 3 years and would have lost 22 SEC games in a row. THAT would be rock bottom, and that has a very real chance of happening. </p>
Who would you rather have to lead your program back from the depths? Mullen walks through the door with national championship rings as an OC from a prolific offense. Does Freeze even have a state championship ring from his days in memphis? Who are players going to respect more?
1. Are you really trying to compare a team that went 2-10 and got clubbed by LaTech and many others, to a team that won a Bowl Game AND beat said team that was being repeatedly clubbed like a mother17ing drum to cap off the season? Are you guys trying to add "dumb and tard-strong" to the label of "shitastic" that your football program already carries?
2. When was Renardo on that game show, what show is it, and why did nobody inform the board so that we could tune in?
2. When was Renardo on that game show, what show is it, and why did nobody inform the board so that we could tune in?
help me understand how 31-3 and 3 in a row mean two teams are not that far apart? especially after hiring a former girls' basketball coach?</p>
..or any of that, you can't logically argue that your team was anywhere close to our team last year. Not that our team was that great - we weren't. But we crushed you by 28 points in a game that was over in the 2nd quarter. There was no comparison between the two.
MSU lost one in a row, score 45-0, and upgraded from Crxxm to Mullen.
Bears lost 3rd in a row, score 31-3, and downgraded from Nutt to Freeze.
Bears lost 3rd in a row, score 31-3, and downgraded from Nutt to Freeze.
I know you guys are certain that nobody on earth could ever compare to Dan MF Mullen. Forgive us for being optimistic with a new coach.<div>
</div><div>I would say this in re: last year's Egg Bowl though. It goes without saying that State was a better team. But the last three times one side has entered that game with a lame duck head coach, the scores have been 31-0, 45-0, and 31-3. I don't think any of those winning teams, talent wise, were that much better than the losing teams.</div><div>
</div><div>Do you think 2008 State was 45 points worse than 2008 Ole Miss, talent wise? If your answer is yes, how do you explain the 2009 Egg Bowl?</div>
</div><div>I would say this in re: last year's Egg Bowl though. It goes without saying that State was a better team. But the last three times one side has entered that game with a lame duck head coach, the scores have been 31-0, 45-0, and 31-3. I don't think any of those winning teams, talent wise, were that much better than the losing teams.</div><div>
</div><div>Do you think 2008 State was 45 points worse than 2008 Ole Miss, talent wise? If your answer is yes, how do you explain the 2009 Egg Bowl?</div>
But my comment was tongue in cheek. All I said was y'all have won more recruiting championships in the past five years than we have. Therefore its no surprise you have been more talented. Y'all are far too sensitive if you're getting this upset about someone saying we finished "right behind you in the standings". There was a gap at the start of the season between the two programs, and that gap got even bigger once Nutt was fired and did absolutely nothing, whether it was coaching or making players come to practice. The point the other guy made is valid though. We destroyed y'all 45-0. A coaching and AD change occurs and you're now a different program because of it. Do not be ignorant and assume that cant happen to us.
yes.I understand you are anbear and don't keep up with State, much, but our 2008 team was pathetic, in all facets.[b said:
....after all Hevesy took those same guys and made them a decent offensive line. They were pathetic that year and especially in that game. Relf, before Mullen, was destined to play TE or transfer to Jackson State, etc, etc.
However, you guys were playing as well as anybody in the country toward the end of that year and had a bunch of studs, especially on defense up front. Big talent gap + Big coaching gap = 45-0.
I took issue with your 2-6 is not much better than 0-8, which I understood to mean that you guys weren't that far behind us last year.
We weren't that great. You were miles away.
However, you guys were playing as well as anybody in the country toward the end of that year and had a bunch of studs, especially on defense up front. Big talent gap + Big coaching gap = 45-0.
I took issue with your 2-6 is not much better than 0-8, which I understood to mean that you guys weren't that far behind us last year.
We weren't that great. You were miles away.
The semantic of "miles away" just seems a bit wrong-headed to me. Again, 31-3 is what it is. An asswhooping. But as someone who watched every game last year, our talent was not 2-10 bad. We had a coach who entered the year unprepared, was lazy, lost the team early on and THEN, our dumbass administration decided to fire him but allow him to continue coaching the last three games. Its like they forgot that the last three included 2 against our rivals. The team quit on the coaches, then for the last three games the coaches literally did not give a ****. That's why you have stuff like Mackey and Jeff Scott getting suspended three days before the Egg Bowl. Its why you have ESPN telestrators pointing out Ralph Williams just standing flat-footed and watching a tight end run right past him and catch a TD. They didn't care.<div>
</div><div>I shouldn't have to keep qualifying myself, but I will, since people seem to think I'm trolling: State had a good year last year. I would've traded seasons in a heartbeat. But I'm not going to pretend like I think we are "miles away" from 6-6 with wins over La Tech, UT-Martin, UAB, Memphis and an OM team that had quit by November.</div><div>
</div><div>We can go back and forth all day, but I'll stop. I appreciate you trying to have a conversation without "tard-head" and other crap like that.</div>
</div><div>I shouldn't have to keep qualifying myself, but I will, since people seem to think I'm trolling: State had a good year last year. I would've traded seasons in a heartbeat. But I'm not going to pretend like I think we are "miles away" from 6-6 with wins over La Tech, UT-Martin, UAB, Memphis and an OM team that had quit by November.</div><div>
</div><div>We can go back and forth all day, but I'll stop. I appreciate you trying to have a conversation without "tard-head" and other crap like that.</div>
...which was present in 2008 for us as well.
But look at your team last year. Outside of playing BYU close, your only wins were over Southern Illinois and a 4-9 Fresno team. You had terrible qb play all year from 3 different guys. You couldn't run the ball. Kentucky blew you out. Vandy blew you out. As did everybody else save Arkansas.
Vandy was game #4, and you lost 30-7. Are you saying that they quit in game 4? How can you tell that?
It doesn't really matter. We had the same type of team in 2003. We supposedly had a bunch of talent that continued to lose in the next 3-4 years. Your team last year and our team back then mirrored each other. Time will tell whether or not Freeze is more akin to Croom or Mullen I guess.
I know that you want to believe that you've got a bunch of talented players who were just unmotivated. That's what we thought too. We'll see.
But I guess we are going to agree to disagree on the point that Mississippi State was a much better football team than Ole Miss last year, despite your 2-10 record, blowouts in all but 2 of your losses, and a 31-3 final score.
But look at your team last year. Outside of playing BYU close, your only wins were over Southern Illinois and a 4-9 Fresno team. You had terrible qb play all year from 3 different guys. You couldn't run the ball. Kentucky blew you out. Vandy blew you out. As did everybody else save Arkansas.
Vandy was game #4, and you lost 30-7. Are you saying that they quit in game 4? How can you tell that?
It doesn't really matter. We had the same type of team in 2003. We supposedly had a bunch of talent that continued to lose in the next 3-4 years. Your team last year and our team back then mirrored each other. Time will tell whether or not Freeze is more akin to Croom or Mullen I guess.
I know that you want to believe that you've got a bunch of talented players who were just unmotivated. That's what we thought too. We'll see.
But I guess we are going to agree to disagree on the point that Mississippi State was a much better football team than Ole Miss last year, despite your 2-10 record, blowouts in all but 2 of your losses, and a 31-3 final score.
pointing out Fresno State was leading the mighty rebels in the 4th quater last year. You're lucky you weren't 1-11. <div>BillFremp said:
</div><div>How is your talent not as bad as you're record? Did the LSU skull dragging not register, or was is the Alabama slaughter? Was Vanderbilt beating you 3 touchdowns not indicative of how bad you were?</div>
See if I got this right<div>
</div><div>Offensive Line Less talent and certainly less experience</div><div>Running Backs no need to comment</div><div>Receivers Moncrief and Brassell are damn good but will Brassell make it</div><div>QB Jury is out, should be better but if offensive line is as bad as it looks good luck</div><div>
</div><div>Defensive Line: If CJ. Johnson develops and Ware surprises your end play should be better but your interior lineman are nothing to write home about</div><div>Linebackers: Marry may have spelled wrong, is a great tackler but others are unimpressive</div><div>Defensive Backs Could be better than last year</div>
</div><div>Offensive Line Less talent and certainly less experience</div><div>Running Backs no need to comment</div><div>Receivers Moncrief and Brassell are damn good but will Brassell make it</div><div>QB Jury is out, should be better but if offensive line is as bad as it looks good luck</div><div>
</div><div>Defensive Line: If CJ. Johnson develops and Ware surprises your end play should be better but your interior lineman are nothing to write home about</div><div>Linebackers: Marry may have spelled wrong, is a great tackler but others are unimpressive</div><div>Defensive Backs Could be better than last year</div>
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</div><div>1.) OM has a private commit from RK. YEAH RIGHT YOU GUYS!</div><div>
</div><div>2.) 15 people $aying $uper funny $tuff about crootin nat'l champs.</div><div>
</div><div>3.) whereisomaha says something to the effect of, actually, you guys have had higher rated classes than us the past 3 of 5, but not by much, which explains why we've finished right behind yall.</div><div>
</div><div>4.) Me wandering into a shitstorm over the meaning of "right behind".</div><div>
</div><div>Where did I say State wasn't a better team last year? The record and scores are what they are. "31-3 is what it is. An asswhooping." I did say that we weren't 2-10 bad. I think with a competent coach, and against that schedule, we should've probably won 5 games. Bobby Massie, who is about to be drafted in the late first or early second round, was a fat revolving door at RT last year. That's about as big of an indictment against the previous coach as I can think of.</div><div>
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</div><div>1.) OM has a private commit from RK. YEAH RIGHT YOU GUYS!</div><div>
</div><div>2.) 15 people $aying $uper funny $tuff about crootin nat'l champs.</div><div>
</div><div>3.) whereisomaha says something to the effect of, actually, you guys have had higher rated classes than us the past 3 of 5, but not by much, which explains why we've finished right behind yall.</div><div>
</div><div>4.) Me wandering into a shitstorm over the meaning of "right behind".</div><div>
</div><div>Where did I say State wasn't a better team last year? The record and scores are what they are. "31-3 is what it is. An asswhooping." I did say that we weren't 2-10 bad. I think with a competent coach, and against that schedule, we should've probably won 5 games. Bobby Massie, who is about to be drafted in the late first or early second round, was a fat revolving door at RT last year. That's about as big of an indictment against the previous coach as I can think of.</div><div>
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that Freeze is smart enough to realize how far up his *** the NCAA will be if he does land them, so he'll make sure everything is as watertight as possible. Not saying we won't cheat, just that I would hope they're smart enough to be very, very careful how they do it.
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