How’d that turn out? Small schools have never been more successful this march.
Remember when NIL and the transfer portal were only gonna benefit the top schools?
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Jay wright was elaborating on this praising transfer portal, grad transfers, and NIL to varying degrees for creating more parity in the sport than ever before. Think he was also letting everyone in on his decision for retiring - the edges for big time programs narrowing to a degree.
Yup all these fake arguments about how NIL would ruin college bball have been exposed. All the big time coaches new their built in advantages were going away so they got out.
It will be different when the extra covid players are gone.
Perhaps but Fau has one 5th year player and Princeton is an Ivy League school that doesn’t allow 5th year players
Think the extra covid year helped teams like us in middle of pack (NW may be another) not sure how many teams were in our situation that also benefited but I haven’t looked so I won’t guess any further.
Agreed but smaller schools benefit because they have kids for 4/5 years. Older/experienced playing together having chemistry.
Transfer portal helps add pieces to a school so they can fill recruiting void’s to compete. The power 5 can pay the most to secure the biggest and best talent to their teams.
The coaches have to also be good GM’s and ensure they are getting top talent but more importantly that gels within the system.
It’s very hard to bring talent together who have not played together for very many games and then get them to trust or be on the same page in high pressure moments.
That’s why Playing freshman early if they have big time potential is very important. If not they will leave and you have to start all over. The issue is you are relying on young kids in big moments (Purdue). Why it was important to play Simpson this year and Gavin next . Ace is watching so play Gavin and play him big minutes
Yeah and many fans who said they wouldn’t watch anymore too
Ivy League teams will always be scary as hell. Tons of discipline and they never beat themselves.
Paying NIL to 13 players in hoops is a bit easier than paying 85 in football.
The original heated discussion about NIL
seemed to be more about football being affected
And we did see a lot more things happening with football
I think the concern/argument had more to do with football than basketball. Bball parity started before NIL
You hit the nail on the head my friend, it makes it much easier for a smaller name school if they have a few deep pocket alumni
The concern was def more in football, but that also has to do with the fact that only 4 teams make the playoff. Once that expands to 12, there will be more parity.
As for basketball, there were no top teams this year. I don’t think that has anything to do with NIL, but rather the the top talent just isn’t there. The freshmen class was weak. Teams like UCLA and Gonzaga that have seniors who have been there for what feels like 10 years, didn’t improve. The blue bloods (Duke, Kentucky, and UNC) all took steps back. Kansas got bounced in the second round.
I was watching the KSU/FAU game, and there was A LOT of bad basketball. The team that wins it all this year will probably be one of the worst national champions.
Frankly, I think it’s a bad product this year. Not a lot must see players.
As for basketball, there were no top teams this year. I don’t think that has anything to do with NIL, but rather the the top talent just isn’t there. The freshmen class was weak. Teams like UCLA and Gonzaga that have seniors who have been there for what feels like 10 years, didn’t improve. The blue bloods (Duke, Kentucky, and UNC) all took steps back. Kansas got bounced in the second round.
I was watching the KSU/FAU game, and there was A LOT of bad basketball. The team that wins it all this year will probably be one of the worst national champions.
Frankly, I think it’s a bad product this year. Not a lot must see players.
To me the NCAA tourney champ is not the best team in the country where it felt like in prior years the team that won could stake that claim. This year, there’s a lot of randomness due to greater levels of parity.
Totally agree. The last two champs (Baylor & Kansas) were easily the best teams in the country. This year, the winner will be nowhere close to those two teams. I think individual talent was down this year and the overall product was garbage. It happens sometimes.
Not even remotely true.
The last two champs were easily the best teams in the country.
Here’s the list of winners. In the last 10 years, maybe Virginia and Uconn were the only two winners that weren’t the best teams.
Whether they win or not, it doesn’t change anything about what I said
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Yes
There have been years where a team looks invincible till they play the next game
I remember that RU tried to get the Uconn center to come here
He would have been a nice piece for us
The scary thing is that their backup center was pretty good also
He made a few mistakes but seemed like he could hold the fort while the other guy got a rest
Uconn is on fire right now
During the season they had a stretch where they lost a bunch of games
The winner just might be who plays the best at a particular moment, and that does point at Uconn.
I doubt any other team could have dismantled Gonzaga
We shall see
When you have a tournament of 68 teams and single-game elimination, it is quite likely that the champion will be the team that got hot (and lucky) at the end rather than necessarily the best. It's like the baseball playoffs that way, but even more extreme because of single-game elimination.
This year there was no dominant team in college hoops. Just look at the last set of rankings. Texas is number 5 and has eight losses. Baylor is number 11 with ten losses. Heck, the number one team had 5 losses. The clues were there fora wild tournament if you were paying attention. With a healthy Mag we could have been a final 4 team with a few breaks.
The greatest college hoops team I ever saw was UNLV the year after they won the whole thing. They didn’t make the championship game that year. Villanova won it as an 8 seed, Syracuse as a 3 seed. UNC came within a hair of winning it last year as an 8. Part of what makes tournaments fun is that the best team isn’t handed the championship. Being the best is for the regular season. Tournaments are for the teams enjoying a hot run.
Ace certainly has a nice NIL package (GG’s isn’t bad either). Not sure how the admin works on these NIL’s. I’m assuming there are specific terms as far as length of stay at said university, etc.. Perhaps the terms even differ slightly for each player.
So a small college with 6 sports can get a wealthy donor to buy players while a large university with 24 sports can lose out on a player because of their multiple obligations in 23 other sports. I don’t know if I call that parity but allowing small colleges not adhering to their responsibilities to the other 5 sports.
But, UNC didn’t win. Kansas won and they were the best. Baylor won it all the year before and was the best that year too. Again, look at the last 10 winners. Yes, sometimes it’s a team that gets hot and gels late. And a lot of times the best team wins it. Take a look at 2012 Kentucky. Easily the best team that year. They cruised.
I would say out of the last 10 winners, Virginia and Uconn were not the best team.
A LOT of one seeds have won it. I know one of the years Nova won it, they were probably not the best. But more often than not, it’s the best team.
It is still way too early to come to any conclusions. NIL has just started.
Not a crazy thought by any stretch. FAU has had to beat 8 seed Memphis, 16-FDU, 4-Tennessee and 3-KSU. Not exactly what Villanova had to do (pre-shot clock) in ‘85. Although Nova did have their point guard high on blow.
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The great thing about the tournament's format is that everybody can dream that their team will catch lightning in a bottle.
You got the wrong forum and sport here. As others have pointed out the debate was always about football. Not the one or two players on a basketball team. Bag money in basketball has been there for years and a much easier sport to compete than FBS football.
The physical difference between school number 250 and number 10 in basketball is nothing near bama in football and say Richmond.
What you say makes sense,but consider that Miami, which has a financial angel (see the thread about Miami and NIL) l, is in the elite 8. In basketball, one only needs a few good players, and that makes it easier to buy a good team. Yes, that used to happen below the table with bag money, but NIL lets it be above the table, which means it's even easier than before -- nothing has to be hidden. This is why NIL needs to be effectively regulated to minimize "come to my favorite school and I"ll get you a real good NIL deal."
That’s just not true. It’s revisionist history by those that were wrong. People just can’t admit when they’re wrong these days.
They're also skilled and masters of the fundamentals.