Reports that NASCAR's Greg Biffle may have died this morning
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Man that is terrible. I remember he flew a ton of aid and helped people in North Carolina after Hurricane Helene with his helicopter.
I was a big Biffle fan back when I worked for Grainger years ago. Met him at a hospitality event. He really did a lot for the Hurricane victims and seemed to be an all around good guy.
Looks like it had taken off from the same airport a few minutes earlier and was attempting to return. Don't know if it was literally a crash or the plane was on fire before trying to land. Was supposed to be going to Sarasota, Florida.
I used to fly private charter all the time and never thought twice. I guess truly private might lack the regulatory pressure to maintain it properly? I was under the impression that the FAA dictated all of that. I'm also not a plane owner or pilot..
there you go again, wantin' to git the gubmit involved in everything.
They can tell me how to fly my planes when they start paying for the maintenance.
He didn’t say it was.
He has a good question regarding regulatory maintenance.
Public airlines have to do it for obvious reasons.
How often are privately owned planes checked and serviced?
They don't pay for your car maintenance but they can tell you how to drive, what's the difference?
Sorry. i was replying to @jethreauxdawg 's opinion about private planes. Please let him know that this isn't about opinions on private planes.
You have to maintenance your own planes. But you do have to stay current with your license and get your medical. I mean you have pre-flight checks and everything but you can kinda do what you want to do with your own stuff. Nearly all accidents are pilot error.
The less regulation, the less safe. Go figure.
required by FAA to have an annual inspection. engines are mandated overhauled at specific intervals, based on engine type. could be 5000 hours. could be 2500 hours. could be 1000 hours. airframe is mandated inspected each year. that was an older plane (1981), and the Citation II isn't known as one of the better citations. there's a reason you can pick one up for $150,000 - $500,000. the yearly ownership expenses are too high. That particular model is expensive to maintain. They changed a lot on the citation line after the Citation II. sounds like this one had an engine issue shortly after take off.
The pilot error (or pilot competence) is a huge factor. You can split bad accidents into three piles. The first is when there's nothing wrong with the plane but the pilot makes a big 17 up (Delta 1141 comes to mind), the second is when something goes wrong but the pilot makes a catastrophic error or can't handle it (AF 447), and finally the ones where it doesn't matter who the pilot is and you're screwed (Alaska 261).
It's the "when crap goes wrong" moments that determine if a pilot is great or bad. We have a lot of respect for stuff like the Miracle on the Hudson because most of the time it turns out far worse.
I’m guessing somebody’s never had a ramp check. Wow, the more I look at that statement, the more glaringly ignorant it becomes.
I’d like to see your sourcing concerning accidents being pilot error. Not to say that it’s incorrect; however, I’d roll the dice that you’re talking out of your 4th point of contact