RJ from last week's GA game...

[maroonmania]

Here is an excerpt from a Scout article on Ravern Johnson referencing his play in last weekend's GA game.

"Had he kept up the perimeter pace, a personal record was sure to come. But when his coach suggested at halftime it might be good in team-terms to take a different offensive approach, Ravern Johnson agreed. "There wasn't any point in me keeping on shooting," he shrugged.

That is some of the goofiest logic I have ever heard in my life. The primary reason we almost lost the game in the second half was that RJ was a no show on the offensive end and only had 2 shots through about the first 14 minutes of the second half. During this same time, Stewart and Bost were bricking shots with regularity. When a guy is smoking the nets for 21 in the first half, I believe I tell him to KEEP SHOOTING in the second half.

 

[maroonmania]

Here is an excerpt from a Scout article on Ravern Johnson referencing his play in last weekend's GA game.

"Had he kept up the perimeter pace, a personal record was sure to come. But when his coach suggested at halftime it might be good in team-terms to take a different offensive approach, Ravern Johnson agreed. "There wasn't any point in me keeping on shooting," he shrugged.

That is some of the goofiest logic I have ever heard in my life. The primary reason we almost lost the game in the second half was that RJ was a no show on the offensive end and only had 2 shots through about the first 14 minutes of the second half. During this same time, Stewart and Bost were bricking shots with regularity. When a guy is smoking the nets for 21 in the first half, I believe I tell him to KEEP SHOOTING in the second half.

 

[hullabaloodog]

He told his hottest shooter to stop shooting (basically)...That's just NOT smart.

 

[Coach34]

but I really want to

 

[hullabaloodog]

I figured as I was writing that there would be no question as to who would be the first to reply. I was not wrong...but surprised by your restraint.

 

[Thick]

would have kept on pumping up the rock. I don't know what is more surprising, the logic in that statement to RJ, or how that logic got him so many damn wins in this league, but not in the big dance baby.

 

[Coach34]

making very many posts about our basketball coach until this season plays out...

 

[maroonmania]

Stans supporter, but I still can't for the life of me figure out ANY logic in telling your hot hand to stop shooting so much. In fact, we should have been setting outside picks for the guy to make sure he was getting in his shots.

 

[rhs43]

RJ shot over 60% from behind the arc his senior year in high school. I don't think he was just hot, he is just a damn good consistent 3-point shooter. I don't understand Stans sometimes. Maybe he thought with the lead we should just try to feed it inside for high percentage shots, but Randy and Dee were taking shots and bricking.

 

[MrHooch]

or do you just foam at the mouth for any opportunity to bash the guy?

That is an excerpt of a conversation they had at half-time...now I'm not psychic and I can't manipulate space and time, but I'd be willing to bet that after he saw our lead diminish the way it did in the second half that stans told ravern to start shooting again.

I can't think of any coach in the land that would be able to keep their job for 10+ years by throwing out a few choice nuggets of advice at halftime and then just sitting back and watching the game unfold. You people are ridiculous.

 

[rhs43]

but why tell the guy to hold back in the first place, and I don't recall ever getting on here and bashing Stans.

 

[Coach34]

Said player is lighting up Georgia and helped us get a big 1st half lead...

Stansbury tells said player to stop shooting so much at halftime....

And you wonder why people might question that strategy just a little?

 

[sardis]

He just doesn't always make sense, like one of those guys that's right 90% of the time, but just kills you with the other 10%. I think this keeps him from getting over the top. Wasn't the best year he had was when we had ex NBA coach on the bench with him?? I think that's the reason he has so many bashers, he just does some dumb stuff, not alot, but enough that you can't trust him.

 

[MrHooch]

Said player is lighting up Georgia and helped us get a big 1st half lead...

Stansbury tells said player to stop shooting so much at halftime....

And you wonder why people might question that strategy just a little?

ok I'm gonna quote you first off...
"...tells said player to stop shooting <span style="font-weight: bold;">so much</span> at halftime..." so much. as in, don't completely stop shooting, just spread the ball around because we want other players getting touches and experience. not that hard a concept.

and second, if you were watching the same first half I was, I almost felt like we were a big bully picking on a little retarded kid. Or maybe a girls school in texas. Is that what you want coach? 100-0?

 

[rhs43]

so we don't blow the game like we almost did.

 

[Coach34]

"and second, if you were watching the same first half I was, I almost felt like we were a big bully picking on a little retarded kid. Or maybe a girls school in texas. Is that what you want coach? 100-0?"

because if you dont in the SEC, you can end up needing a big 3-ball from Randy Stewart to keep them from closing it down to a one possession game with 5 minutes left...and having to play defense with 1:30 left only up 5 and they get a good look at a 3

If you go ahead and put them away, then you can "just spread the ball around because we want other players getting touches and experience. not that hard a concept." as you said

 

[MrHooch]

"and second, if you were watching the same first half I was, I almost felt like we were a big bully picking on a little retarded kid. Or maybe a girls school in texas. Is that what you want coach? 100-0?"

because if you dont in the SEC, you can end up needing a big 3-ball from Randy Stewart to keep them from closing it down to a one possession game with 5 minutes left...and having to play defense with 1:30 left only up 5 and they get a good look at a 3

If you go ahead and put them away, then you can "just spread the ball around because we want other players getting touches and experience. not that hard a concept." as you said

It is a fluid game. It is constantly evolving and adjustments are made constantly throughout the game.

Stansbury's point, which RJ understood even if your stupid *** can't, was that he wanted to spread the ball around for several reasons. One of those could be the experience factor mentioned earlier. Another could be, gasp, we wanted to keep the defense honest?

I mean hay-zeus chris-toe...are you really gonna sit there and tell me that if you were the coach (or a real coach, for that matter) and the team you were playing had one player who was making all the shots that you wouldn't double or triple team him to shut him down? Yes you would, and that's called an adjustment...I'd have to say stans anticipated that adjustment and made a change of his own to (get ready for it)....help maintain the lead and win the game!

by the way I love the fact that you're trying to judge him on a decision which the player agreed with and which apparently seemed to work, seeing as how we won the damn game. Douchington.

 

[Coach34]

insulted my former profession...i'm hurt...

"I mean hay-zeus chris-toe...are you really gonna sit there and tell me that if you were the coach (or a real coach, for that matter) and the team you were playing had one player who was making all the shots that you wouldn't double or triple team him to shut him down? Yes you would, and that's called an adjustment..."

you mean just like Tennessee did when Meeks went for 53 or so against Tennessee? Wasnt that game "fluid"? Wasnt it "constantly evolving and adjustments are made constantly throughout the game"?

"which apparently seemed to work"

maybe you watched a different 2nd half...we held on by the skin of our teeth and had to make some very big shots to hold onto that lead.

 

[cottondistrictdawg]

It is a fluid game. It is constantly evolving and <font size="4"><span style="font-weight: bold;">adjustments are made</span></font> constantly throughout the game.

You're very right. Adjustments ARE made, when they're needed though. Ever heard the old phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? I'd have to say if a shooter is 5-6 from 3-point range and has 21 points at halftime, i let him keep shooting. But hey, that's just me.

 

[Chesusdog]

Gonna have to agree with Coach34 here (and I can't believe I just said that), but Ravern should have been a factor in the 2nd half. Maybe Georgia does adjust to him, but first you MAKE them adjust. When they start the double or triple team, Ravern can find the open man. This game was way closer than it should have been. Dee Bost has the potential to be a great PG, but him and Barry were throwing up garbage in the 2nd half. I'm just glad Jarvis stepped up with a big 2nd half.

 

[windcrysmary]

but I really want to

good one

 

[99jc]

he is a decent coach he pulls some stupid **** like this. Butler mentality never goes away.

 

[whatever.sixpack]

What I find even more stupid is that you guys actually believe Stans told Ravern to quit shooting. That's probably not what was said, or even insinuated. He might have wanted him to quit taking bad shots or contested 3's, but if you think he wanted Ravern to stop taking wide open 3's then you're quite dumb...
He also might've run sets to get other guys shots to get the confidence going in players outside of Ravern, but we'll need that down the road

 

[Afro Dawg]

Can it be that Stansbury told Ravern to be a little more selective with his shots because he anticipated Georgia actually make an adjustment to guard the guy who scored 21 first half points?

I realize that wouldn't fit the agenda set forth by some of you, but logic tells me that when one player torches a team for 20 minutes, they're gonna do everything in their power to prevent that from happening in the next 20 minutes.