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Nbacats said:
In the same article, since you clearly didn't read it to completion

In a 2018 blog post, US law professor Michael Dorfpoints out that it is possible (as opposed to plausible) for the United States Supreme Court (SCOTUS) to utilize the unconstitutional constitutional amendment doctrine to strike down the unequal apportionment in the United States Senate (which violates the one person, one vote principle); in the very same article, however, Dorf also expresses extreme skepticism that the US Supreme Court (or even a single justice on the US Supreme Court) would actually embrace the unconstitutional constitutional amendment doctrine—at least anytime soon.
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Ugh, Seriously. That’s the SAME paragraph I just quoted. He’s says it’s possible. Which meaning in legal terms an avenue theoretically exists. Doesn’t mean it actually does (nice not plausible).

The same paragraph I JUST quoted to you says not a single justice would get behind it. Stop reading for things that. Aren’t. There.

Your argument is without actual case law or merit. And in the legal system case law is everything. It’s never been done. And I would argue has slim to no chance of halo ending in the United States mainly by the way our Constitution is robustly set up.

You might as well be arguing for the existence of aliens. Could they exist? Sure and might. Do they? There’s no verified evidence of it actually happening.
 
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csrupp said:
Why are you racist?

I seem uneducated so I'll help you out here. The term "liberal" as you know it has only been around for 20-30 years. Before that, a liberal whose political ideology favored individual liberty, economic freedom, and limited government. What you know as liberalism is repackaged Marxism. So yes the South in the 1800s was very "liberal".

The views you hold are radically evil, not just on this topic, but ALL of them. I'm not saying that you are inherently evil. Maybe you are or maybe you have low intellect and were easy to indoctrinate. Who knows?
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lol. I’m evil but you’re the one out here supporting rapists
 
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csrupp said:
But the GOP is the only one of the two parties that isn't completely insane. The left is more Lenin than Lincoln.
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I don’t know about that. Saying they’re not completely insane isn’t comfort really. Both sides have pretty much given into extremist mouthpieces at this point.
 
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I truly think this is best at the state level. I see both sides of the issue. I think abortion after a few months is pretty despicable. I also think if you’re raped you shouldn’t have to carry the baby. But at what point in the pregnancy does that have to be decided (I mean at 9 months it’s a full term baby)? And I don’t know as much as I should about the biology of a fetus at 6 weeks. So it’s a complicated issue - and wouldn’t that best be served at the state level?
 
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bbncal02 said:
Ugh, Seriously. That’s the SAME paragraph I just quoted. He’s says it’s possible. Which meaning in legal terms an avenue theoretically exists. Doesn’t mean it actually does (nice not plausible).
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And what I literally said to begin with is that an amendment can be unconstitutional, which means it’s possible. You literally just supported by original statement. Are you really this ******* dumb?
 
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Nightwish84 said:
I do wonder what this will do for future elections. The left is usually awful at midterm turnout, but they'll be fired up like never before because of this. And the right has accused the left of going full social issues, which is true, yet most will be celebrating this news and I'm sure at some point the talk will focus on gay marriage once again as if that's still an important issue to the country.
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This was leaked to try to drum up voters for the Demoncrats in the mid-term elections. By all metrics, they are set for landslide losses in November.
 
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WayneDougan said:
I truly think this is best at the state level. I see both sides of the issue. I think abortion after a few months is pretty despicable. I also think if you’re raped you shouldn’t have to carry the baby. But at what point in the pregnancy does that have to be decided (I mean at 9 months it’s a full term baby)? And I don’t know as much as I should about the biology of a fetus at 6 weeks. So it’s a complicated issue - and wouldn’t that best be served at the state level?
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You mean at the same level where they are currently passing laws to make it a crime or a civil offense to have an abortion … if you’re raped? And the woman who gets an abortion can actually be sued by … her rapist?
 
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Nbacats said:
And what I literally said to begin with is that an amendment can be unconstitutional, which means it’s possible. You literally just supported by original statement. Are you really this ****ing dumb?
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No but you are apparently.

Possible and ACTUALITY are two very different things.

There is no current case law for unconstitutional constitutional amendments in the United States. Period. SOCTUS is not going to declare slavery unconstitutional as your original knee jerk hyperbole suggested. There not case law for it and no practical avenue for it to happen as I laid out in how an amendment has to be repealed. It would completely violate checks and balances in our own Constitution. Theory and application are extremely different.

And you’re the first to use directed profanity. Nice. You’ve lost the argument already.
 
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Nbacats said:
The GOP supported an insurrection and cop killing and continues to support it to this day. The right is more Iraq than American.
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I’m not the biggest conservative GOP person on the planet but that’s a broad brush and red herring if there ever was one. Come on.
 
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WayneDougan said:
I guess I would advise you to avoid Texas, NBA.
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It’s a decent place to visit but even if it was the most liberal state in America I wouldn’t want to live there because of the weather. Same as places like Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, etc. Or on the cold spectrum, New England, New York, mid west, etc. Very much do not like temperature extremes. VA is bad enough at times.
 
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Ky on the right side of history on this one.

 
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Funny and ironic to see the left whining about SCOTUS now throwing uncomfortable social rulings at their side when it was their standard way of bypassing the ballot box to get what they want.

Buckle up. We got 50 years of pay back decisions coming your way.
 
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Nbacats said:
Extremist Republicans are going to send this country into another civil war if they keep up with trying to revert this country back to the 1800s. What's next for y'all? Gay marriage? Interracial marriage? Women voting? Bringing back segregation laws, slavery?

Y'all want to the USA to be like some ******** third world country like Iraq? Well congratulations, you just got one step closer!
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How dumb can someone be?

You can still kill a baby in America if Roe v Wade is overturned. This baby is a human being. In your world killing a human being because YOU do not want it is what you call a civilized nation. There is nothing civilized about taking an innocent life and ripping it to pieces when it can not fight back. A baby is helpless.

Even if Roe v Wade is overturned many states will continue with abortion. If a woman lives in a state where abortion is illegal and wants to kill her baby bus her to New Jersey or California. Or any liberal state that has no value to a human life. Say like Chicago where blacks kill blacks by the dozens. No value of life.

When you do not honor life you are the "barbarian" and it has nothing to do with interracial marriage or homosexuality. How dumb can one get
 
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Nbacats said:
The list of countries where abortion is illegal (or possible to be made illegal on a non-federal level). Truly illustrious territory we have joined!

USA
Andorra
Angola
Dominican Republic
Congo
Egypt
El Salvador
Gabon
Haiti
Honduras
Iraq
Laos
Madagascar
Malta
Marshall Islands
Maritania
Micronesia
Nicaragua
Palau
Philippines
San Marino
Sao Tome and Principe
Senegal
Suriname
Tonga
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Are you here to discuss a topic or just twist, sensationalize and lie about things? Your approach is god awful and stupid
 
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Kyle Tucker with worst take ever - no wonder the Athletic is $1 for 6 months. Lots of baby killing dudes on here. No uterus no opinion goes out the window when you tell me transgender men are woman. This was leaked because they need something before mid terms the war in Ukraine is not registering- the left are some damn wackos
 
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Ron Mehico said:
As someone with kids who would never consider an abortion I don’t believe the government should be involved and I think it should be a personal choice of the individual. Now please ignore this post and continue arguing
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This is why Roe v Wade must be overturned. It was bad law from the beginning. The Federal Government has no Constitutional role in abortion. No federal money should be spent on killing babies.

Send it back to the states. Let elected state representatives make the laws to kill or not kill. If the people of California want to kill, it is their choice. If Florida wants life, it is the people of the state's choice. I live in a conservative state by choice because I like conservative values. If I supported abortion, I would move to a liberal state. That is the choice we have as Americans. We can move
 
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I will also comment on something that has largely gone undiscussed in this thread:

Leaking a SCOTUS decision is UNHEARD of. Where are all the people talking about destruction of norms and institutions? Threats to our democracy? Seems like a sterling example of that right here.
 
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Sawnee Cat said:
This is why Roe v Wade must be overturned. It was bad law from the beginning. The Federal Government has no Constitutional role in abortion. No federal money should be spent on killing babies.

Send it back to the states. Let elected state representatives make the laws to kill or not kill. If the people of California want to kill, it is their choice. If Florida wants life, it is the people of the state's choice. I live in a conservative state by choice because I like conservative values. If I supported abortion, I would move to a liberal state. That is the choice we have as Americans. We can move
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That’s all well and good until the law (like the one in Texas) says you will face life in prison if you travel to another state to have an abortion.
 
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