Roe vs. Wade Overturned.

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I had to take two shots so I could keep my job. Either close your legs or be ready to become a parent. We were given reproductive organs for a reason. When you use them there is a risk
Why not tell the guys to keep it in their pants? They are just as responsible but basically get to walk away scott free. What about rape victims who were forced to spread their legs? They are having a choice made for them twice.
 
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If a parents has a child, that child can fall under their benefits. If they have a fetus whose life began at birth, that fetus won't qualify for benefits until it is born.

If a father divorces the mother, he has to pay child support (or in the rare case the mother has to). If a father leaves, or is never with, the mother after she is impregnated, he doesn't have to pay anything.

So then does life begin at conception or birth? Your laws contradict this whole life begins at conception concept.

But let me guess, you don't support any of that, because you want to punish the women while letting the men get off scott free.
 

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Why not tell the guys to keep it in their pants? They are just as responsible but basically get to walk away scott free. What about rape victims who were forced to spread their legs? They are having a choice made for them twice.
We don’t make laws on the .01% of cases. Which is what rape cases that results in pregnancy are.

also I previously stated men who are proven to be the father should be held accountable as well. One child that come from your nit sack that is a welfare child and snippy snip
 
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We don’t make laws on the .01% of cases. Which is what rape cases that results in pregnancy are.

also I previously stated men who are proven to be the father should be held accountable as well. One child that come from your nit sack that is a welfare child and snippy snip
But those rapes happen and they need to be accounted for in the laws.

snippy snip if you can find the guy. You think police will spend any effort looking for him if he has taken off? Also, do you really think any of these laws will address the guy involved? We all know it will be woman only that is addressed.
 
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Thanks for the clarification, I was well aware of their intention, didn't mean to imply they were actively seeking pregnant women to butcher for their "religious beliefs".

I'm making the same point they are. If the tenants of your religion dictate you behave a certain way, do so. Just don't force other people to do so in the process.
Yeah I knew what you meant, just wanted to clarify because there is another "church" named after Satan that some religious conservatives confuse with the Satanic Temple and dismiss everything as like a "crazy Satanic people love to butcher babies" type of thing.
 

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Just checking in to see if anyone has changed their minds by reading all of the insightful posts that I'm sure are in this thread.

I'm not about to read through all of those pages, but has the role of the man/father/sperm donor been discussed yet? If abortion is off the table, then the 'father' should be on the hook for half the pre-natal expenses. Then do a DNA test the day the kid is born and he has to do his part for 18 years or he is penalized under the law.

I would think this would not be opposed by anybody on the right.

The opposition would come from elsewhere because abortion on demand is a natural outgrowth of the desire to have no consequences- from sex, from loans, from breaking the law.
 

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I would think this would not be opposed by anybody on the right.

The opposition would come from elsewhere because abortion on demand is a natural outgrowth of the desire to have no consequences- from sex, from loans, from breaking the law.
Only 31% of Republicans support abortion bans. 54% think it should be legal under certain circumstances and 15% thing it should be legal under any circumstance.
 
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Do you also wear clothes woven of multiple fabrics? God also forbid that. I don't see the right clamoring to make that illegal.

Convenient how y'all pick and choose what to believe in.
Since you’re obviously quite the biblical scholar I’m sure you can quote the book chapter and verse of this restriction. I’ve honestly never this before.
 
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Since you’re obviously quite the biblical scholar I’m sure you can quote the book chapter and verse of this restriction. I’ve honestly never this before.
You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material. - Leviticus 19:19

It is referenced in many other verses as well.
 

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You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material. - Leviticus 19:19

It is referenced in many other verses as well.
Thank you. I worship Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, who came to fulfill the law. Therefore I don’t follow the minutiae of Jewish law.
 
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Thank you. I worship Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, who came to fulfill the law. Therefore I don’t follow the minutiae of Jewish law.
It’s still an example of people picking and choosing what parts of the Bible to follow. It’s things like this that turn people away from religion. Hypochristians are a huge problem.
 
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By supporting an abortion ban, you support rapists having reproductive rights at the expense of their victims.
That is one odd puzzle you’re putting together there bud. Again, you’re standing on the rape victims to push your narrative. Have you asked these victims if they want to represent your noble cause. Do you think these victims appreciate you speaking for them?
 

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Less than 1% of abortions happen after 21 weeks. No one is having an abortion late in a pregnancy for fun. It's only happening if the fetus is dead of there is extreme risk to the mother.

30-60 days into a pregnancy many women don't even know they're pregnant. The way "weeks pregnant" is counted you could be six weeks pregnant but been a virgin four weeks ago.

This thread is full of people who have no idea how pregnancy or abortion actual work.
Idgaf when it happens it's still murder.
 

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It’s still an example of people picking and choosing what parts of the Bible to follow. It’s things like this that turn people away from religion. Hypochristians are a huge problem.
Christians aren’t perfect.

Jesus basically gave us two commandments:

1. Love God with our whole heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love our neighbor as ourselves.

Jesus didn’t command his believers to follow the Old Testament strictures, so I don’t follow them. Nothing hypocritical about that.
 
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But those rapes happen and they need to be accounted for in the laws.

snippy snip if you can find the guy. You think police will spend any effort looking for him if he has taken off? Also, do you really think any of these laws will address the guy involved? We all know it will be woman only that is addressed.
Rape is illegal
 

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A lot of people became biologists all of a sudden. This was all coordinated of course, destroying norms to in turn destroy another norm of the 50 vote threshold in the senate. And bc a mid term is coming up so they needed to whip some insurrectionists up the media will cheer on putting justices lives in danger. Throw in "fascist" as much as possible.

What ppl don't understand is your feelings are irrelevant. The job of the scotus isn't to judge if a law is good or bad it's only to apply it to the constitution. This isn't hard. But this is where we are when ppl have repeatedly wanted activists on the bench.

The slippery slope about ending gay marriage and what not is complete nonsense too. The opinions specifically say to not mess with obergefell. But ppl would actually have to read to see that.
 

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By supporting an abortion ban, you support rapists having reproductive rights at the expense of their victims.
This would be decided by states. As it should be, and not likely that it would turn out that way. You’re hysterical and not in the funny way.
 
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Only 31% of Republicans support abortion bans. 54% think it should be legal under certain circumstances and 15% thing it should be legal under any circumstance.
What does this have to do with whether the Constitution guarantees it as a right?
 

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When it comes to Washington and the deep state nothing ever is at it seems or they want you to believe. I think this is being considered and leaked right before the mid-terms to galvanize Dems voting so the Republicans winning back Congress & Senate doesn't happen as everyone has been predicting. Then when the Presidential Election rolls around they will lay the groundwork of this was all in place and being considered because of Trump and his Supreme Court nominations. Just watch
 
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Rape is illegal
So you agree they need to have an exception for rape. However my point was that police will not try to find Bob who had sex with Sue and then disappeared when Sue got pregnant. The law won’t address those situations. You are fooling yourself if you think they will.
 
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Christians aren’t perfect.

Jesus basically gave us two commandments:

1. Love God with our whole heart, mind, soul, and strength.
2. Love our neighbor as ourselves.

Jesus didn’t command his believers to follow the Old Testament strictures, so I don’t follow them. Nothing hypocritical about that.
It's pretty hypocritical to say God's word doesn't matter in one case but not in another.
 
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This would be decided by states. As it should be, and not likely that it would turn out that way. You’re hysterical and not in the funny way.
10 states have passed abortion laws without exceptions for rape, including Kentucky. 9 got blocked by the courts, for now. Though whenever Roe gets overturned, won't be anything stopping these states from banning abortion even in the case of rape. Texas is still on the books. They'll keep trying until the courts stop blocking it.
 
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