rumor has it Nutts could save his job for next year

[Coach34]

with 2 more wins this season (Kentucky and La Tech)<div>
</div><div>1. They really dont want to spend that money to fire him and then bring in a new staff to put on the payroll</div><div>
</div><div>2. Their schedule next season is ridiculous- and they will lose some good applicants because of it</div><div>
</div><div>Thinking being ride it out one more year with Nutts, show that they were very patient and gave him every chance to produce winning results- but he just couldnt do it, get a more favorable schedule for bringing in a new staff, and giving the new coach a great chance to get off to a good start with a more favorable schedule in 2013</div><div>
</div><div>I almost hope Nutts pulls it off after hearing this</div>

 

[Coach34]

with 2 more wins this season (Kentucky and La Tech)<div>
</div><div>1. They really dont want to spend that money to fire him and then bring in a new staff to put on the payroll</div><div>
</div><div>2. Their schedule next season is ridiculous- and they will lose some good applicants because of it</div><div>
</div><div>Thinking being ride it out one more year with Nutts, show that they were very patient and gave him every chance to produce winning results- but he just couldnt do it, get a more favorable schedule for bringing in a new staff, and giving the new coach a great chance to get off to a good start with a more favorable schedule in 2013</div><div>
</div><div>I almost hope Nutts pulls it off after hearing this</div>

 

[davatron]

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[Dental Dawg]

If they win, he keeps his job. If beat the **** out of them, it will be a knee-jerk reaction. He will be fired by Monday.

 

[EAVdog]

Their schedule next year is attrocious, who put it together LT? And they really are getting a reputation of being a coaching carousel. Nutt has had a good reputation and any up and coming coach sees that Ole Miss ran off an established coach who is just 2 years removed from B2B Cotton Bowls will be worried about job security. Plus it saves them a lot of money.

No way this happens. They fire Nutt, keep Boone, and Jimmy Sexton gets Hugh Freeze a 2 mil a year deal for 4 years.

 

[FreeDawg]

If Nutt/Boone or just Nutt come back that has to have negative economic consequences. I would think less giving would guaruntee Nutt the door. And are there any UM folks clamoring to keep him? And what if he loses to Kentucky?

 

[Chesusdog]

They might actually find someone who can coach AND recruit. Then again, maybe they can't. And that buyout for firing him will be a tough pill to swallow. It'll certainly be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[patdog]

if they kept him after another 4-8 season that included his 3rd straight loss to MSU. I think he needs 5 wins to keep his job.

 

[thunderclap]

I believe Nutt gets to take the fall for that one, too, then they fire him.

 

[MonkeyCheese]

If they win, he keeps his job. If beat the **** out of them, it will be a knee-jerk reaction. He will be fired by Monday.

That's what I thought about Croom too. Going into the 08 Egg Bowl I thought Croom was coming back, though I wouldn't have agreed with thatdecision. I thought it was time for a change. But then after 45-0 I thought that was the box of nails in the coffin. Sure enough, next morning it all spilled out that Byrne cut ties from the Slytanic.

 

[NOPD1024]

I have heard the deal is in place for him to resign at the end of the year and a list of replacements has already been put together. Fyi Our 2013 schedule doesn't get any easier. We get UF at UF and Texas at Texas plus South Carolina rotates back dropping UGA but all of that is up in the air until we see the new schedule with A&M and Mizzu. Unless he wins 3 out of the next 4 he is gone and I think he is gone even if that happens. The question is if Boone will be gone as well. I am hearing mixed rumors about that. </p>

 

[RebelBruiser]

From what I hear, the buyout next year is $5M, down from $6M this year.

We'll lose nearly $1M if not more in ticket sales and other giving if we don't fire him, so why wait a year?

From my sources that are close to the situation, Boone is already working on his list of replacements. I don't know if he's contacting anyone, but they are planning for replacing Nutt at the end of the season already, and they've been working on it for weeks.

Given Boone's planning abilities with coaching searches, I don't think he'd be planning this far ahead if he didn't know for sure it was going to happen. As I said before, I think Nutt lost his job with the Vandy game. Maybe he could've saved it by still winning 6 or 7 games, but that game was the day he lost it. He hasn't done enough to save it, and 4-8, not even 5-7 with an Egg Bowl win would be enough to save his job I wouldn't think.

I honestly don't see why we're waiting until the end of the season, but it may be that we're doing that as a show of faith to possible replacements.

 

[BehrDawg]

He sends around $50k on average per year to them for football. I went and had dinner with him last Friday at Shapleys and I asked him what he thought about Nutt being gone this year. He told me that the total buyout for the entire coaching staff at UM right now is around $9.5 million. He said he didn't think it would happen this year because they know the next coach they hire, they are going to want to put up around $3million for the new coach.

You do the math, but that is a **** ton of money to come up with right now. After this year, the buyout decreases by a little more than half. </p>

 

[NOPD1024]

Any coach with common sense will see that Nutt has taken those two Cotton Bowl seasons andwastedthem. This will be his second straight losing season which includes a school record 11 straight SEC losses. Thelack of deptheveryone keeps pointing at is on Nutt not a previous coach. This is his fault and coaches can see that. They can also see a talented freshmen class that they could build on and win with. Cutcliff was fired because he wouldn't get rid of assistants and he recruited for ****, O could recruit but alot of his players didn't make it to campus and he couldn't coach for **** and Nutt had some talent when he came but there is nothing left of his first two classes. This isn't a coaching carousel this is getting rid of ineffective coaches. Oh one last thing ifstrength of schedule would keep a coach away why did dan mullin come to msu when he did? Ya'll proudly bragged that msu had the hardest schedule in the country in '09. So I ask why wouldn't a up and coming coach come to OM just because of the schedule?

 

[grimedawg]

There are only so many jobs in the SEC. A young, hungry coach would be dumb to pass over just about any opening in the SEC. Thesecoaches are, or should be, super competitive. So, a challenge should not dissuade an aggressive guy. The problem is picking the right one.

 

[DFWdawg.sixpack]

You would be able to get any ambitious assistant into a SEC head coaching job regardless of their schedule much like Dan Mullen was in our case. I believe that where there schedule will hurt them is if they are trying to go out and get an established name....somebody with head coaching experience already. Ifa young guy comes in and does poorly with that schedule, he would be able to brush it off as a difficult schedule while installing the playbook and getting his players in there and people would give them the benifit of the doubt. But if a veteran coach comes in and does poorly, it will be see as another Nutt and he is a washed up coach who is on his way out of the game and just doesn't have it any more. That's why I feel, if they are firing Nutt after the season, they will almost have to hire an assistant/coordinator from somewhere.

 

[MedDawg]

No way this happens. They fire Nutt, keep Boone, and Jimmy Sexton gets Hugh Freeze a 2 mil a year deal for 4 years.

Hugh Freeze? Is he going to bring Sandra Bullock with him to help him coach? <div>
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</div><div>P.S. I absolutely could see Boone hiring Hugh Freeze at a discount, especially with OM spending so much on Nutt's buyout. They won't have to pay him anywhere NEAR $2 million a year, though. Freeze is currently only making about$225,000 a year at ArkansasState.</div><div>
</div><div>http://www.paragoulddailypress.com/articles/2010/12/03/sports/doc4cf87d15513ba997366255.txt</div><div>
</div><div>He's doing well enough on the field at Arkansas State to make some fans OM happy. At least the delusional ones.</div>

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

I have a doc I call on who is big in the UM dept and his best friend is another physician in north ms who has even stronger ties and he said they both think it is going to be hard not to get rid of him, and most likely if Nutt goes, Boone goes.....but he did say that at this point, NO ONE knows for sure.....and these docs are about as connected as they get....which leads me to think that C34s 'rumor' probably is right....he stated the $9M figure, and he pointed out that they are losing more than that from upset donors.....his physician friend in north MS has informed them he will not give his contribution next year nor renew his season tickets he has had for 35 years unless Boone is gone....and said this is more about Pete Boone than it is Houston Nutt.....he pointed out that it is instances like this that is going to force Dan Jones to make the call.....they are losing a lot more than $9M from the other side of it....

At this point I think it is up to Dan Jones....not Boone.....and this is where my doc says know one knows for sure what Dan Jones is thinking.....

Just by looking at their team and I think they are improving and their strengths are MSU's weaknesses (speedy backs around the edges).....I could easily see UM winning the egg bowl and Nutt keeping his job....that's just my opinion.....I don't think his job is gone yet.....he messes up and wins a few important games down the stretch and you will see him again next year...

1 more thing, my doc said the name most of the big money guys are tossing around is Kevin Sumlin....he said he preferred Mike Leach, but that would never happen at UM....

take this for what its worth....I could care less what they do....

 

[fishwater99]

50 Years...........

 

[bsquared24]

I don't necessarily have any connections but the feeling I get is that the OM crowd hates Boone a lot more than Nutt. I think Boone gets the heave ho this year, new guy comes in gives Nutt 1 year, he sucks it up in 2012 with that schedule and then new AD gets to bring in his own HC. Not the craziest of scenarios

 

[EAVdog]

Dan knew even with our schedule that he could muster up an Offense rated above the 100's. Croom never had an Offense rated in double digits, every year it was triple digit. Even after we missed a Bowl Game we all still loved Dan because we actually had something resembling an Offense.
As for the recruiting issue, you have to face unpleasant facts being an Ole Miss or State fan. Recruiting is not going to be easy in Mississippi. Half the kids can't get eligible. Of the half that do Bama, LSU, Auburn, Tenn raid those whenever they can. It would be easy for a coach to look at Nutt or Mullen and feel likethey're in hard to win situations.
I'll say though if you get the right up and coming coach and throw out enough cash they'll bite. But if Boone is still there and the whole Forward Rebels campaign is still in full swing it'll be much harder than it should be to get your next coach. Everytime I hear someone say something on ESPN about Cutcliffe, or Orgeron (as a D coord.), or even Nutt it's pretty positive. More positive than even I think it should be. Cutcliffe and Orgeron have has some success post Ole Miss. Can't help if someone is debating if the job is viable.

 

[grimedawg]

It will be very, very difficult for UM to get a currently established name. Even winning, tradition-rich programs have difficulty getting established, currently successfulhead coaches to change jobs. Head coaches that might move are from lower divisions or lower-level DI conferences. I would considermost of these head coaches at lower levelsequivalent to an aspiring, bright coordinator on par with an SEC coordinator. The key distinguishing factor is that it is obviously different being the number 1 guy as head coach. Each school, coach and situation is different. But, I think the general key is being able to identify the up and comer, whether it is someone with head coaching experience or a bright coordinator in a large program.</p>

 

[Flatland Dawg]

I think the best outcome for us would be if Nutt gets fired this year. They'll have a huge buyout sucking up funds, a terrifying schedule, a terrible atmosphere for a new coach to enter into, and further evidence of the coaching carousel meme. I can't see any coach with half a brain entering into that willfully, even for $2m and SEC bragging rights. What good is that if you're back on the street in 2-4 years and starting over in FBS? Be patient, take a smaller step for slightly less money (see: Arizona), and prime yourself for a top half SEC job.

If Nutt makes it through this year, maybe wins 5-6 next year and still looks terrible doing it, no one's going to argue with him getting tossed. Boone and possibly even Jones will be gone by then, too, which opens the door for a new coach to create a new tack with new leadership at the helm. I think they'd be able to attract better candidates. Money might still be a problem, but they should still be able to offer $2m once the donors pony up.

 

[MemphisMaroonClubDog]

it worked out so well the last time y'all had your candidates lined up...