Rumors are swirling about Masoli being cleared...
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Don Jackson's **** attitude toward the NCAA probably added a year to Sidney's suspension. His fire-breathing Don Quixote tactics were doomed from the start.
so many of them, including Rome, were hell bent on saying that the NCAA had made the right decision the first time. are they now going to stick to that? i personally doubt it. Rome might stick with it but i wouldn't expect many of the rest of them to do so.
...but they'll make up for it with all their vindicated ********.
The NCAA got it right the first time. It was clear and straight-forward...anyone who disgrees, including this appeals committee, is borderline retarded at best.
But it's all good, though. I'd rather see State beat them with Masoli than without. Then at least they won't have an excuse.
But I do expect Nutt to make good on all the ******** he was spewing. Masoli should be named permanent captain, stat.
It would be high comedy if Masoli went out to fire one up tonight in celebration and got busted. Of course, Oxford's finest would never let that happen. They swept Eli's **** under the rug for three years.
The NCAA got it right the first time. It was clear and straight-forward...anyone who disgrees, including this appeals committee, is borderline retarded at best.
But it's all good, though. I'd rather see State beat them with Masoli than without. Then at least they won't have an excuse.
But I do expect Nutt to make good on all the ******** he was spewing. Masoli should be named permanent captain, stat.
It would be high comedy if Masoli went out to fire one up tonight in celebration and got busted. Of course, Oxford's finest would never let that happen. They swept Eli's **** under the rug for three years.
that dude better be on the best behavior of his life. i also bet there will be some folks who do everything in their power to get him to continue with his degree next spring when he is done playing. if he either gets caught doing something illegal or doesn't finish school, he is going to make Nutt andOM'sathletic departmentlook likecomplete and total jackasses.
He's been cleared but he's not the starting QB. Stanley is our QB.
Unless he is just awful or gets hurt Masoli is playing back up and
special plays..
<h6><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">Masoli
was just cleared to play but Stanley
will be our QB. I like Stanley.
He and the team were the ones who went to coach Nutt and said they felt going
after Masoli was the right thing to do and they supported Coach Nutt. Like that
kind of character and leadership.</span></h6>Are you kidding me?
Unless he is just awful or gets hurt Masoli is playing back up and
special plays..
<h6><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: normal;">Masoli
was just cleared to play but Stanley
will be our QB. I like Stanley.
He and the team were the ones who went to coach Nutt and said they felt going
after Masoli was the right thing to do and they supported Coach Nutt. Like that
kind of character and leadership.</span></h6>Are you kidding me?
NCAA disgracing all those who follow the rules and turn blind eye to the thuggery that flows from the grove!
masoli after this debacle 2010 << masoli in 2011 with a year in the people-helping offense/system
note: this assumes he wouldn't commit his 2nd or 3rd misdemeanor(whichever he's on) or 2nd felony while in oxford while sitting out.
i'd rather them have masoli this year with a ****** OL and no WRs than next year when they have a little more experience.
note: this assumes he wouldn't commit his 2nd or 3rd misdemeanor(whichever he's on) or 2nd felony while in oxford while sitting out.
i'd rather them have masoli this year with a ****** OL and no WRs than next year when they have a little more experience.
....because I'm right and you're wrong, and anyone who disagrees is a retard. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. It makes me feel better.
for purely athletic reasons.
Paulus gave statements that showed he was clearly transferring for athletic purposes. To pretend otherwise is just ridiculous.
Im stunned that they reversed course. Do I think he should be able to play if I could make up my own rules?No. Do I think he should be able to play under the NCAA rules, and past waivers? Absolutely.
Paulus gave statements that showed he was clearly transferring for athletic purposes. To pretend otherwise is just ridiculous.
Im stunned that they reversed course. Do I think he should be able to play if I could make up my own rules?No. Do I think he should be able to play under the NCAA rules, and past waivers? Absolutely.
I'm sitting here and I'm pissed at myself for even commenting on this thread. We play tomorrow and I'm looking forward to seeing our guys run Memphis's *** right out of the stadium. Who gives a damn about Mississippi and their convict quarterback?
If you figure out you been doing something wrong and want to make it right, then do it. They should have just said, the Cooper decision was handled poorly. This is the correct way to handle these type cases.
Its not like anyone detrimentally relied on the precedent.
Its not like anyone detrimentally relied on the precedent.
DerHntr said:
that they got right the first time.
And I don't know that the media will support the NCAA in this decision either.
...fail to realize that there's absolutely no precedent in favor of granting the waiver for Masoli either. There's no other example on the books of someone who had already enrolled in grad school getting suspended and then kicked off his team and then transferring to another D-1 school, and then expecting to play immediately, claiming that his former school didn't have the grad school program he wanted to pursue.
All of the other examples the Rebs have brought up don't measure up.
All of the other examples the Rebs have brought up don't measure up.
You can't just ignore what you have done in the past based on the same rules. All jokes aside the NCAA is supposed to treat all student athletes the same, and they clearly didn't here. Masoli was punished because he was rose bowl QB and was on ESPN, and any argument to the contrary I think is flawed.
If they handled the Cooper decision poorly, their response should be to amend the rule so that if you are not in good standing with your team, you can't get the waiver. I would be fine with that.
They can't just treat two players differently because they want to, at the very least they shouldn't be able to. They may not like this result, but its their own doing. If they had a problem with players getting waivers that were suspended from their team, they would have done something about it. They didn't have a problem with it until a famous college player wanted to use the waiver, and treating a successful athlete different than a no name athlete simply isn't right.
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If they handled the Cooper decision poorly, their response should be to amend the rule so that if you are not in good standing with your team, you can't get the waiver. I would be fine with that.
They can't just treat two players differently because they want to, at the very least they shouldn't be able to. They may not like this result, but its their own doing. If they had a problem with players getting waivers that were suspended from their team, they would have done something about it. They didn't have a problem with it until a famous college player wanted to use the waiver, and treating a successful athlete different than a no name athlete simply isn't right.
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Masoli was punished because he broke the law and got himself in this mess.
Just because a bunch of Ole Miss lawyers found some random average at best basketball player and equate it to a starting QB doesn't make it right.
Obviously it is very subjective about proving a player's intent. Though I believe Masoli's decision was 100% motivated by athletics, I also believe that 99% of players that try to get this waiver are motivated by 100% athletics.
I think them using the dismissal was a mistake, but I think if they would have went with academics, who is to say Masoli wouldn't make a statement that he didn't like the grad program at Oregon, and realized that he wanted to do something else? Though BS, you are having the NCAA try and figure out a player's true intent? Just too damn messy.
I think them using the dismissal was a mistake, but I think if they would have went with academics, who is to say Masoli wouldn't make a statement that he didn't like the grad program at Oregon, and realized that he wanted to do something else? Though BS, you are having the NCAA try and figure out a player's true intent? Just too damn messy.
The reason the NCAA denied the waiver request in the first place is because he was a famous QB. If he was a backup OG from Idaho, he would have been cleared the first time.
The NCAA didn't like the way this looked. I can't blame them, it looks bad. They tried to find a way to keep him from playing, but their previous decisions did them in.
The NCAA didn't like the way this looked. I can't blame them, it looks bad. They tried to find a way to keep him from playing, but their previous decisions did them in.
So what gives the SEC the right to be subjective on our cowbell issue? When do we get fined, how many cowbells are too many?
So if the NCAA isn't allowed to be subjective, but the conferences within the NCAA are...then I think Slive should subjectively tell Nutt and Masoli to 17 off.
This is such hypocritical ********. If the NCAA gives Bost more than a 2 day suspension, we should whine, *****, go public, facebook, threaten civil suits, etc. until they cave like the little bitches they apparently are. This is garbage. I'm trying my best not to think ill wishes toward that little thug and his new team. Hopefully he'll celebrate with a big fattie tonight and fail a piss test tomorrow.
Go to Hell Ole Miss!
So if the NCAA isn't allowed to be subjective, but the conferences within the NCAA are...then I think Slive should subjectively tell Nutt and Masoli to 17 off.
This is such hypocritical ********. If the NCAA gives Bost more than a 2 day suspension, we should whine, *****, go public, facebook, threaten civil suits, etc. until they cave like the little bitches they apparently are. This is garbage. I'm trying my best not to think ill wishes toward that little thug and his new team. Hopefully he'll celebrate with a big fattie tonight and fail a piss test tomorrow.
Go to Hell Ole Miss!
so they can pretty much treat whoever however and have done so for a while. This just happened to be a case of getting it right.
Second, there is no rule to change. The waiver is broad and gives them discretion. Do they now have to come out with a list of all the reasons they can deny?
Again, if someone had detrimentally relied on the precedent it might make more sense, but no one was hurt by the denial.
Hopefully, this will lead to their getting rid of this stupid waiver anyway.
Second, there is no rule to change. The waiver is broad and gives them discretion. Do they now have to come out with a list of all the reasons they can deny?
Again, if someone had detrimentally relied on the precedent it might make more sense, but no one was hurt by the denial.
Hopefully, this will lead to their getting rid of this stupid waiver anyway.
fixed it for you.Ole Miss bitched and whined b/c he was a "Rose Bowl" (how gay) QB, he got the national limelight b/c of it, hegot unmerited pity (and apparently a new soulmate in Chuck) b/c of it, and, ultimately, he got cleared b/c of it.OMlawdog said:
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OMlawdog said:
they don't have to allow anyone to play if they don't want to based on their past decisions. If something looks amiss, don't allow the guy to play. Screw precedent.
Any kind of lawsuit brought forth againt them would probably drag out so long that he would just leave anyway.
The NCAA has now set forth a more dangerous precedent- because now any "star" football player that gets kicked off of a team can now transfer and be eligible.
If the NCAA can't be subjective, then someone show me the precedent for a FULL SEASON PLUS 9 GAMES suspension. For anything.
I rest my case. Now I have to back away from this keyboard and calm down...
I rest my case. Now I have to back away from this keyboard and calm down...
Actually that precedent was set by Kenneth Cooper over a year ago. The NCAA has simply followed this dangerous precedent that they set over a year ago.
If they want to be pissed about Masoli being cleared, they should be pissed that they didn't look closer at who they were giving waivers to. According to people at UM who were preparing the appeal, the NCAA didn't know they had already granted a waiver to a player that had been suspended. The reason they didn't know, was because it was so low profile.