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That would be awesome. You know they both hate Texas and now Nebraska has some rivalry games
 

WVUALLEN

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That would be awesome. You know they both hate Texas and now Nebraska has some rivalry games
No it wouldn't. Big 12 would crumble then. WVU would be independent and division 3. Big 12 can't afford to lose anymore teams. They need to add more.
 

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Being in the Big 12 with Texas was insufferable because Texas ran the Big 12.....badly.

Texas won't be running anything in the SEC, so there is literally no comparison in the 2 situations.
 

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Not necessarily.
Oh yes necessarily. If SEC really wanted WVU they would have been there before Missouri. I would say only way they go is with Oklahoma State and WVU going together as the 23rd and 24th teams. But I suspect SEC will wait on ACC and their mess.
 

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Oh yes necessarily. If SEC really wanted WVU they would have been there before Missouri. I would say only way they go is with Oklahoma State and WVU going together as the 23rd and 24th teams. But I suspect SEC will wait on ACC and their mess.
From a logical and geographical perspective, WVU and Pitt to the B1G make the most sense to me. Unfortunately, logic is out the door.
 

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Oh yes necessarily. If SEC really wanted WVU they would have been there before Missouri. I would say only way they go is with Oklahoma State and WVU going together as the 23rd and 24th teams. But I suspect SEC will wait on ACC and their mess.
There isn’t 6 teams in the ACC to be ahead.
The Missouri debacle was a last minute political maneuver.
 

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There isn’t 6 teams in the ACC to be ahead.
The Missouri debacle was a last minute political maneuver.
Which proves they won't go past 20. Missouri was not last minute political maneuver. That was UL and it failed for them.
 

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Which proves they won't go past 20. Missouri was not last minute political maneuver. That was UL and it failed for them.
They were both last minute. The Missouri pick was not publicly discussed as much. And 20 is not a good number for what the P2 is doing.
 

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ESPN conference #1, ESPN conference #2, ESPN conference #3. Which one will we end up? Probably with FS1 or the upcoming PBS Sports.
 

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Where do you find this crap (or how hard do you look for it)? OSU is not an AAU member, nor does it bring value of a major marker or alumni base. This is clickbait that smells so bad it's hard to believe anyone would click on it.
 

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Where do you find this crap (or how hard do you look for it)? OSU is not an AAU member, nor does it bring value of a major marker or alumni base. This is clickbait that smells so bad it's hard to believe anyone would click on it.
Click bait. No kidding. Makes you wonder why the title of the thread is rumors out of control.
 

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They were both last minute. The Missouri pick was not publicly discussed as much. And 20 is not a good number for what the P2 is doing.
On October 28, 2011, the Big 12 conference formally invited West Virginia to join. The university accepted the invitation the same day, and also became a full member effective July 1, 2012.

WVU had already been rejected by SEC before Missouri was even thought of. On November 6, 2011, the SEC officially announced that it had added Missouri as its 14th member.

The money the SEC would make from Mizzou joining as opposed to West Virginia was a big factor in the whole debate.

The SEC is not looking to move past 16 teams despite reports of further conference expansion.
 

Tylerite

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On October 28, 2011, the Big 12 conference formally invited West Virginia to join. The university accepted the invitation the same day, and also became a full member effective July 1, 2012.

WVU had already been rejected by SEC before Missouri was even thought of. On November 6, 2011, the SEC officially announced that it had added Missouri as its 14th member.

The money the SEC would make from Mizzou joining as opposed to West Virginia was a big factor in the whole debate.

The SEC is not looking to move past 16 teams despite reports of further conference expansion.
Not what was rumored at the time, Missouri was being looked at before WVU joined the Big12 and behind the scenes a lot of jostling was happening.

Anyway, if the B1G and the SEC stay at 16 teams each then there will be only 33 teams competing for the Top National Championship.
 

WVUALLEN

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Not what was rumored at the time, Missouri was being looked at before WVU joined the Big12 and behind the scenes a lot of jostling was happening.

Anyway, if the B1G and the SEC stay at 16 teams each then there will be only 33 teams competing for the Top National Championship.
If that's the case then Missouri wasn't last minute.
 

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On October 28, 2011, the Big 12 conference formally invited West Virginia to join. The university accepted the invitation the same day, and also became a full member effective July 1, 2012.

WVU had already been rejected by SEC before Missouri was even thought of. On November 6, 2011, the SEC officially announced that it had added Missouri as its 14th member.

The money the SEC would make from Mizzou joining as opposed to West Virginia was a big factor in the whole debate.

The SEC is not looking to move past 16 teams despite reports of further conference expansion.
SEC would move past 16 in a heartbeat if they could snatch up ACC markets. Kansas/KSt or ISU may be the only other programs outside of the ACC along the coast from VA to FL.
 

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The political maneuvering was. And WVU saw it was going to lose out. Anyway the SEC made the wrong choice.
Let's see. State of Missouri market vs State of West Virginia market. It's all about the eyeballs, not how the programs perform. 6.18M vs 1.77M Missouri has 3.5X population (eyeballs) as WV.
 

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SEC would move past 16 in a heartbeat if they could snatch up ACC markets. Kansas/KSt or ISU may be the only other programs outside of the ACC along the coast from VA to FL.
That's one of the many unsubstantiated rumors floating around out there.
 

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That's one of the many unsubstantiated rumors floating around out there.

SEC would move past 16 in a heartbeat if they could snatch up ACC markets. Kansas/KSt or ISU may be the only other programs outside of the ACC along the coast from VA to FL.

Clemson, Florida State are big brands that would fit SEC culture.

Five of the 10 conferences from 1991 are either defunct or no longer compete in the FBS. That season, no conference featured more than 10 teams.

The Big Ten and SEC each have 16 members, while other conferences fight for survival. Conference growth and evolution are simply part of college football.

So, whether the SEC will expand further seems less a question of if and more but a matter of when, and with whom.
 

Tylerite

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Clemson, Florida State are big brands that would fit SEC culture.

Five of the 10 conferences from 1991 are either defunct or no longer compete in the FBS. That season, no conference featured more than 10 teams.

The Big Ten and SEC each have 16 members, while other conferences fight for survival. Conference growth and evolution are simply part of college football.

So, whether the SEC will expand further seems less a question of if and more but a matter of when, and with whom.
Every P5 school going east from Kansas to Maryland and below the Ohio River fits the SEC
 

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Every P5 school going east from Kansas to Maryland and below the Ohio River fits the SEC
Wrong. Missouri is an outlier for the SEC and never really fit the SEC. But SEC wanted those eyeballs and extra cash. Big 10 has gotten what it wanted in going coast to coast. FSU and Clemson fit the mold of every SEC team and it's conference. Just because you're P5 doesn't mean you fit somewhere.

Just like WVU is not a fit for Big 12 but both were desperate. Louisville is not a good ACC fit. If the ACC wasn't full of pompous a-holes they would have taken WVU and Louisville would be Big 12 right now.

SEC likes to fit their mold and B1G likes to spread their wings.
 

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Wrong. Missouri is an outlier for the SEC and never really fit the SEC. But SEC wanted those eyeballs and extra cash. Big 10 has gotten what it wanted in going coast to coast. FSU and Clemson fit the mold of every SEC team and it's conference. Just because you're P5 doesn't mean you fit somewhere.

Just like WVU is not a fit for Big 12 but both were desperate. Louisville is not a good ACC fit. If the ACC wasn't full of pompous a-holes they would have taken WVU and Louisville would be Big 12 right now.

SEC likes to fit their mold and B1G likes to spread their wings.
Wrong about WVU being a fit for the ACC. That’s an aristocratic conference and we are certainly not that. The only school in that league we have anything slightly in common with at all is Florida State and they weren’t even an original member. WVU is really a northeast school but unfortunately there is no conference for that. So the SEC is the best fit.
 

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Wrong about WVU being a fit for the ACC. That’s an aristocratic conference and we are certainly not that. The only school in that league we have anything slightly in common with at all is Florida State and they weren’t even an original member. WVU is really a northeast school but unfortunately there is no conference for that. So the SEC is the best fit.
Yeah...all WVU has to do is go knock on the SEC door!! They're waiting. That little old redneck conference needs saving and the Mountaineers stand ready! Tylerite. Anti Christian. Bigot.
 

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Wrong about WVU being a fit for the ACC. That’s an aristocratic conference and we are certainly not that. The only school in that league we have anything slightly in common with at all is Florida State and they weren’t even an original member. WVU is really a northeast school but unfortunately there is no conference for that. So the SEC is the best fit.
Yeah that must be why WVU former rivals are in the ACC. If by some strange miracle the ACC had called before the BIG 12 WVU would have jumped all over that offer.

You might think SEC is the best fit but it's obvious SEC doesn't think so.
 

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Yeah that must be why WVU former rivals are in the ACC. If by some strange miracle the ACC had called before the BIG 12 WVU would have jumped all over that offer.

You might think SEC is the best fit but it's obvious SEC doesn't think so.
Pitt is not a fit for the ACC either. I don’t disagree that WVU would of went if acc offered before big12, but the acc will never call, and the door is not shut on the SEC .
 
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Pitt is not a fit for the ACC either. I don’t disagree that WVU wouldn’t of went if acc offered before big12, but the acc will never call, and the door is not shut on the SEC .
Keep living the dream. If it ever happens, and I don't think it will, then I will let everyone know you were 100% correct.