Russellis better than McCarran, by a decent amount, and I'm not syaing that
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What???
McCarron vs UT
17/22 306 yards 4 TD, 0 INT
Russell vs UT
23/37 291 2 TD, 0 INT
They are both good QBs. I'd say they are very comparable...no way Russell is better by a "decent amount"
McCarron vs UT
17/22 306 yards 4 TD, 0 INT
Russell vs UT
23/37 291 2 TD, 0 INT
They are both good QBs. I'd say they are very comparable...no way Russell is better by a "decent amount"
I tend to agree... I wouldn't say he's a lot better, but if you put a gun to my head and said pick one, I think I would take Russell.. they were comparable prospects coming out of high school.. Scout had Russell slightly higher, Rivals had McCarron slightly higher.. Russell looks better to my eyes though
Uh, yeah....right. Dude, come on man. I am as thrilled and giddy as a school girl too, but lets don't get crazy here. I think you would be stretching it to say they are even but to go and say Russell is better by a decent amount....Naw, nope....wrong.
You're acting like McCarron has never put in a clutch performance. He's beaten much better defenses than Russell. I'm not saying McCarron is better but to say Russell is hands down better is premature.
I would absolutely say YES..........I don't think there's
any doubt if TR was their starting QB they'd have the same record........
any doubt if TR was their starting QB they'd have the same record........
Think about who is developing each of them... Mullen has a reputation for developing QB's... Saban's rep is more on the defensive side of the ball... I think Tyler is better all around. Can't quite put my finger on why, maybe just more mature/seasoned? AJ is coasting on the backs of the all-around Bama athleticism... just IMHO.
also, AJ had one TD called back, threw 3 passes out of bounds intentionally and had one dropped (of 5 incompletions).
I won't say AJ is better than Russell, but he is certainly the better "known quantity" of the two... at this level, for sure...
I won't say AJ is better than Russell, but he is certainly the better "known quantity" of the two... at this level, for sure...
I agree. Russell is doing what is needed with "lesser" talent than what McCarran has around him. Neither Bama or State has played top-notch defenses yet this season, so I say it's a fair argument.
This puts AJ likely in the 2nd round and Tyler in the 3rd/4th round....
...Russell might not be better than McCarron... but they both are definitely better that Mettenberger.
I don't know who's "better" between the two... I think both teams would still be undefeated with either at QB. but, I do know this, AJ is rated higher by NFL scouts and he is the more "proven" of the two at the college level... that being said, it would not hurt my feelings at all if Bama had Russell as their backup.
I don't keep up with MSU as much as I used to with work and all... what would you say his (Russell's) "signature win" is as a QB? I know he has had some decent numbers vs OOC/FBS programs, but what about a ranked team and/or above average defense?
I disagree. Bama s qb, for the moment, makes better decisions
And manages the offense better. Tyler is more talented, and probably has a better set of skills to make himself more attractive, but he's still forcing some throws.
Ialso think Tyler does not have as good of a offensive coord calling plays.
And manages the offense better. Tyler is more talented, and probably has a better set of skills to make himself more attractive, but he's still forcing some throws.
Ialso think Tyler does not have as good of a offensive coord calling plays.
no, he didn't...
and you (spanky) taking his "side" in the discussion only hurts his credibility.
and you (spanky) taking his "side" in the discussion only hurts his credibility.
Russell is making mediocre WR's look like a bunch of Jerry Rices...
..McCarron is surrounded by NFL talent; all he is asked to do is to manage the game, & throw the ball in the general direction of 5 star athletes. Meanwhile, Russell is forced to inspire average WR's to constantly play above their heads. Russell is, unlike McCarron, constantly forced to make plays for his team. McCarron is QB for a traditional powerhouse; Russell is QB for a traditional 17up. I don't know who is better, but I do know who is being forced to carry the heavier load.
..McCarron is surrounded by NFL talent; all he is asked to do is to manage the game, & throw the ball in the general direction of 5 star athletes. Meanwhile, Russell is forced to inspire average WR's to constantly play above their heads. Russell is, unlike McCarron, constantly forced to make plays for his team. McCarron is QB for a traditional powerhouse; Russell is QB for a traditional 17up. I don't know who is better, but I do know who is being forced to carry the heavier load.