Football Rutgers opens as 31.5pt underdogs to Michigan
- Thread starter Richie O
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No one will complain about losing to the top teams in the division and conference if we show some competitiveness. But another 1-8 conference record and getting fewer first downs than the other teams’ # of touchdowns should be the beginning of the end for GS.
I just saw MD by 4 at MSU...
https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/2...opens-as-home-underdog-vs-maryland-this-week/
I assume you're not an RU fan, as I can't imagine any RU fan ever betting against RU.
Yes the defense is better. So we agree on that. That's actually a big deal. Don't know why you're dismissing that.
The offense is actually objectively better. More points scored vs first 3 FBS opponents. Less turnovers.
Also the conference is definitely not as good as last year. If you've been watching teams like Wisconsin, Iowa, even Ohio State not nearly as impressive as previous years. Our FG kicker is better than last year. Mcattamny hits bombs for kickoffs.
It confirms we can move the ball. Same as someone who throws for 200 + yards and scores only 16 points . We eat clock … we punish people… I get it all those 4-5 * should win …problem is sometimes the team who should win doesn’t
He’s not that posting history will verify that. As Colbert said they are back knowing the opponent up next.No shame if we lose to Michigan.
Personally I miss Frankie from the deli. He always provided a fair number.
So I’ve been pretty hard on Gavin. I think this should be flipped a little here though.
While he didn’t have a good passing day, his yardage has to be taken with a grain of salt because he only attempted 16 passes (Army threw more than us on Sat). While his completion percentage isn’t good enough, some of the shots he took down field (even though they weren’t caught) were instrumental in setting up the runs later in the series (VTech had to respect the deep threat possibility). It’s such a small sample size that a couple more catches and Gavin’s percentage completion would look way better. He only threw 9 incomplete passes in the game.
Get lost. The guy has systematically revitalized this program and it’s continuing to trend in a positive direction. He’s not going anywhere so get behind the guy and stop being a dick.
Seeing RU +25 right now. That‘s a no go for me. Would need at least 28.
Maryland -6.5 against the dumpster fire Mich St. Going to take Maryland for sure.
Saw Fla St. -2.5 against Clemson. Taking Fla St. in that one.
Maryland -6.5 against the dumpster fire Mich St. Going to take Maryland for sure.
Saw Fla St. -2.5 against Clemson. Taking Fla St. in that one.
I see this as something like 42-14
30 and under take Michigan and lay the points
30.5 and over I would take rutgers
30 and under take Michigan and lay the points
30.5 and over I would take rutgers
Well- In 2021- we beat Temple, Your team, Delaware and then went to the big house and played them straight up in a close loss 20-13
2022 - BC, Wagner, Temple and then again- close loss to Iowa 27-10 that was actually closer than it's score
2023- 2 P5 and a G5 blowouts. first 3 harder than both of those years you mentioned
Thanks for the positive look...makes me feel even better for this upcoming game. Sometimes you surprise me with these very positive posts...
Personally I wouldn’t touch a spread like this period. Once MOV is over 21 points, it becomes pretty meaningless. Michigan has yet to score a 4th quarter TD. They’ve elected to put their subs in and run out the clock up big.
It'll be hugely important to get off to a good start, as our offense is not built to come from behind, but then again, I think it's going to be very hard to be competitive with them with a vanilla offense - so we're going to have to take some chances with Gavin's arm and maybe a trick play or two.
I think GW accuracy issues are overblown although he did not have his best passing game. He had at least 3 drops I recall, 2 by Monangai and 1 by Langan. Factor those in and he's 10 for 16 and 62% against VT.
Does that really make him a dik? I know Penn State does that to Maryland for the same reason, but to me, all's fair in love, war and recruiting.
I think Rutgers is happy to do the same to its recruiting opponents when it can...
UM fans do not believe UM will cover a 25 point spread. Hard to say they are wrong - UM's offense has not been anywhere close to elite - 30, 35 and 31 points against weak competition. I'm guessing Vegas must be counting on a multiple Wimsatt INTs and RU wearing down in the 4th quarter like last year
2021
vs. Temple (124) - 21 1st downs, 365 yards, 52 pts scored
at Syracuse (87) - 15 1st downs, 195 yards, 17 pts scored
vs. Delaware (FCS) - 24 1st downs, 493 yards. 45 pts scored
Avg - Defensive Massey rating against (106), 20 1st downs, 351 yards, 38 pts scored
2022
at Boston College (112) - 17 1st downs, 322 yards, 22 pts scored
vs. Wagner (FCS) - 33 1st downs, 585 yards, 66 pts scored
at Temple (122) - 12 1st downs, 201 yards, 9 pts scored
Avg - Defensive Massey rating against (117) 20 1st downs, 369 yards, 32 pts scored
2023
vs. Northwestern (61) - 20 1st downs, 285 yards, 24 pts scored
vs. Temple (117) - 20 1st downs, 452 yards, 36 pts scored
vs. Virginia Tech (66) - 14 1st downs, 302 yards, 35 pts scored
Avg - Defensive Massey rating against (81), 18 1st downs, 346 yards, 32 pts scored
Unless you go by sheer numbers and disregard who they've played, this offense has been objectively better. It's not going to set the world on fire with big plays in the passing game just yet, but they're a top-20 rushing attack nationally, averaging 211 rushing yards/game and have scored 9 TDs. I'd venture to guess that not many/any of the schools ahead of RU have played 3 FBS teams.
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I'd bet against my nieces 8th grade basketball team, if the odds were good
Everyone has different values. Some have none.
No--Michigan likes to get ahead and put it on cruise control. It's not leaving starters in any longer than necessary, and if they play, it will be supervanilla once gets is at hand.
I don't see Michigan covering this number unless Rutgers starts turning it over by throwing once its behind.
More likely, if the game is clean, and neither team turns it over, Michigan will methodically play away, and both coaches will be content to be rather conservative, and avoid subjecting their key players to potentially serious injuries once the game is decided.
I expect a quick game (RU will run the ball even if losing), and a Michigan win around the likes of 27-7.
Yea, kickoffs are better too. Agree. But this is all subjective. There’s no such thing as objectively better. New players, new coaches (NW scandal) no road games yet, etc. Numbers don’t tell the story with such variation in the factors.
We have to see how the season plays out to have more informed opinions.
I do think (opinion) the offense and specials will not prove to be better
My guess on the line going in was +20.5, so the 31.5 is a shocker to me.
When it comes to gambling, I'm like Frank Drebin. I only gamble when I order out. See quote #6.
When it comes to gambling, I'm like Frank Drebin. I only gamble when I order out. See quote #6.