Rutgers vs Wisconsin - Noon On Peacock

NickRU714

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I would rather clean the toilets at SHI stadium with a toothbrush while hot tar is poured on my body, than to ever sign up for a free trial of Peacock.

Gotta find a way to stream it somewhere else

Do you pay for the Big Ten Network?
 

WhiteBus

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I don't use them all that often, not even close. That's what I mean, I have so many but don't come close to using them enough. I can afford it but it doesn't mean I should which is part of my point. It's less about the money and more about I'm being wasteful unnecessarily. Like I said, not as good as my parents when I was growing up. Back then it was necessity to be frugal, now it's more mindset of try to be. I'm good with large ticket things but smaller ticket things, not always.

I'm already feeling the pull to tack on Peacock lol.
You need some will power 🤣. Get Peacock and drop two others.
For me it was what do I really need. Hulu is my service. Peacock is great for European cycling so I add that from time to time. I'm paid through this month so could drop it soon.
If the Devil's are as good as I think, I can add that in the beginning of next year.
 
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NickRU714

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Not separately, it's included with my cable

So yes you do. Is BTN on basic cable for you or do you have a higher tier to get BTN?
If you were able to just pay for BTN, wouldn't you?

Paying for "cable" is actually a bigger (and more expensive) example of:
"pay for a bunch of useless **** just to watch football games"
 

NickRU714

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A good poll question would:

Would you prefer Rutgers Athletics receive less money if it meant watching games was easier for you personally?

I would imagine the same complaints started up when games went on "cable" and pay had to pay for a higher tier to watch football.
 

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A good poll question would:

Would you prefer Rutgers Athletics receive less money if it meant watching games was easier for you personally?

I would imagine the same complaints started up when games went on "cable" and pay had to pay for a higher tier to watch football.
I first had this thought going to an MLB game... at what point is the money "enough"?

MLB parks began with all sorts of advertising all over teh stadium.. on outfield fences and so on.. like little league and teh minors. This was at a time when major leaguers weren't paid all that much. They weren't millionaires.

Then the ballparks became.. well.. classier. More park-like settings. Sure there were still ads in places but it was a lot less. And the players became millionaires.

They are still millionaires and multimillionaires but advertising is everywhere.

In football, in the NFL and college, as well as baseball, they have changed the rules of the game to suit TV networks who seek to serve advertisers.

How much money is enough?

Where is the line in the sand that says to TV and Advertising dollars.. this far and no farther?

Yes.. take less money to preserve what makes the game great. As for paid streaming.. I don't know.. makes sense. I'd rather that than all the changes they have made to the game for a few extra bucks.

Can you all imagine a time when there are no free NFL or college games on TV? A world where you must pay a subscription fee to see any football or college games?

We now face a game where the choice is watch some other game for free or pay to watch R team. And, BTW, "free"? Most pay a cable fee or live TV streaming provider fee plus a broadband fee.

When the 4 PAC teams come in will we see more and more of these paid subscription service games for us lesser" programs? Has, or will, Michigan or OSU or USC be put in this position?
 
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Rokodesh

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So yes you do. Is BTN on basic cable for you or do you have a higher tier to get BTN?
If you were able to just pay for BTN, wouldn't you?

Paying for "cable" is actually a bigger (and more expensive) example of:
"pay for a bunch of useless **** just to watch football games"
I want to watch cable though. There's a lot of great content outside of BTN. I really dont want any more streaming services.. There's a difference. Im not joking when I say signing up for a new service has impacted my desire to watch this game. I'm still probably going to do it like a sucker.
 
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Knight Shift

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you sound like a petulant child.
He is not wrong with what he says below. I add to it.
so you're happy to pay for a bunch of useless **** just to watch football games?

Clearly im not alone given the reaction of other fan bases
I posted either above or in another thread. First, they make you choose an avatar, none of which resonated with me one bit or did I know who/what most of them were/are. Why do I need an avatar. The default is a very gay-looking Peacock. Gay as in Gay 90s. OK?
Second, there was not a single show on the list that interested me.
Browsed the movies. I like comedies. Made it all the way through the M movies, and did not recognize a single movie on the list.

I regret the annual purchase. Going forward, I will purchase monthly during college football season.
A good poll question would:

Would you prefer Rutgers Athletics receive less money if it meant watching games was easier for you personally?

I would imagine the same complaints started up when games went on "cable" and pay had to pay for a higher tier to watch football.
It's not so much about easier, but having to subscribe to an app full of bloated crap you don't want or will ever watch just to watch a game or two. It would be like buying coffee at a mall, but having to walk from one end of the mall to the other through a bunch of shops you would never buy crap from just to get a coffee. Same thing here.

I would rather donate the money to Rutgers than pay the subscription. But we already donate plenty.
 

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I first had this thought going to an MLB game... at what point is the money "enough"?

MLB parks began with all sorts of advertising all over teh stadium.. on outfield fences and so on.. like little league and teh minors. This was at a time when major leaguers weren't paid all that much. They weren't millionaires.

Then the ballparks became.. well.. classier. More park-like settings. Sure there were still ads in places but it was a lot less. And the players became millionaires.

They are still millionaires and multimillionaires but advertising is everywhere.

In football, in the NFL and college, as well as baseball, they have changed the rules of the game to suit TV networks who seek to serve advertisers.

How much money is enough?

Where is the line in the sand that says to TV and Advertising dollars.. this far and no farther?

Yes.. take less money to preserve what makes the game great. As for paid streaming.. I don't know.. makes sense. I'd rather that than all the changes they have made to the game for a few extra bucks.

Can you all imagine a time when there are no free NFL or college games on TV? A world where you must pay a subscription fee to see any football or college games?

We now face a game where the choice is watch some other game for free or pay to watch R team. And, BTW, "free"? Most pay a cable fee or live TV streaming provider fee plus a broadband fee.

When the 4 PAC teams come in will we see more and more of these paid subscription service games for us lesser" programs? Has, or will, Michigan or OSU or USC be put in this position?
Well the B1G tv deal runs 7 more years. 8 peacock exclusive games each year. After that, who knows?
 

NickRU714

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He is not wrong with what he says below. I add to it.

I posted either above or in another thread. First, they make you choose an avatar, none of which resonated with me one bit or did I know who/what most of them were/are. Why do I need an avatar. The default is a very gay-looking Peacock. Gay as in Gay 90s. OK?
Second, there was not a single show on the list that interested me.
Browsed the movies. I like comedies. Made it all the way through the M movies, and did not recognize a single movie on the list.

I regret the annual purchase. Going forward, I will purchase monthly during college football season.

It's not so much about easier, but having to subscribe to an app full of bloated crap you don't want or will ever watch just to watch a game or two. It would be like buying coffee at a mall, but having to walk from one end of the mall to the other through a bunch of shops you would never buy crap from just to get a coffee. Same thing here.

I would rather donate the money to Rutgers than pay the subscription. But we already donate plenty.

Full of bloated crap YOU don't want.
I just watched Fast X the other night on Peacock.
Also rewatched Mankind-Undertaker Hell In A Cell recently.

Very easily could say the same thing about needing to subscribe to cable for BTN games.
 

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It's not so much about easier, but having to subscribe to an app full of bloated crap you don't want or will ever watch just to watch a game or two.
Pretty much this. I have no interest in watching anything else on there. I would rather just pay for a month of BTN+.
 

NickRU714

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Imagine having to wait for some guy to physically show up at your house anywhere between 9am and 1pm just to hook up a streaming app?

Talk about inconvenience.
 
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Funny when I was complaining about Yankees games on Amazon, people called me out and basically said just pay for it, don't be cheap. Now many of the same oned are crying about having to pay for a lot of crap just to get a few games.
 
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Knight Shift

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Imagine having to wait for some guy to physically show up at your house anywhere between 9am and 1pm just to hook up a streaming app?

Talk about inconvenience.
That's not the point. Once you have cable, adding/deleting channels is easy.
 

Knight Shift

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Pretty much this. I have no interest in watching anything else on there. I would rather just pay for a month of BTN+.
To boot, the subscription auto renews, and I set my calendar to cancel 3 days before the due date. On top of that, I am getting spammed by Peacock in my e-mail inbox, pointing out all sorts of useless crap I will never watch.
 
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NickRU714

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I want to watch cable though. There's a lot of great content outside of BTN. I really dont want any more streaming services.. There's a difference. Im not joking when I say signing up for a new service has impacted my desire to watch this game. I'm still probably going to do it like a sucker.

Ok. I don't watch cable.
But I subscribe because I need it for sports.

Big Ten should stop forcing people to pay for expensive cable that people don't want just to get BTN games.
 

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Funny when I was complaining about Yankees games on Amazon called me out and basically said just pay for it, don't be cheap. Now many of the same oned are crying about having to pay for a lot of crap just to get a few games.

How about we literally had a thread 2 weeks ago about how the precious cable companies completely screwed up the airing of a Rutgers game.

I can guarantee this: when you pick "Rutgers-Wisconsin" from the menu on Peacock you won't get an Iowa game.
 

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To boot, the subscription auto renews, and I set my calendar to cancel 3 days before the due date. On top of that, I am getting spammed by Peacock in my e-mail inbox, pointing out all sorts of useless crap I will never watch.
Then unsubscribe to those emails.
 

Zak57

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I never subscribed in the first place.
Media companies suck. They are like a virus that never stops.
When you signed up there was probably a box checked that you wanted to receive promotional emails. Always have to uncheck that one. However I do agree that the media companies suck.
 
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I would rather clean the toilets at SHI stadium with a toothbrush while hot tar is poured on my body, than to ever sign up for a free trial of Peacock.

Gotta find a way to stream it somewhere else
Too many games on services you have to pay for cannot be helping the sport. I won't pay yet more for BTN and Peacock and everyone else to watch games. If they're losing me they're probably losing a lot of other fans.
 
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Knight Shift

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When you signed up there was probably a box checked that you wanted to receive promotional emails. Always have to uncheck that one. However I do agree that the media companies suck.
I unsubscribed. But I have found the e-mails don't stop. You have to go somewhere on their webpage and select unsubscribe to all. No need to spam your customers into oblivion.

I may have missed a checkbox, but I usually look for them.
 
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A good poll question would:

Would you prefer Rutgers Athletics receive less money if it meant watching games was easier for you personally?

I would imagine the same complaints started up when games went on "cable" and pay had to pay for a higher tier to watch football.
Nope, I want RU to get whatever tv money they can. I can deal without if it was needed but radio is always there too. I mean that's how I tuned into games way back.

You sound like you have Peacock already. Any good exclusive series/movies worth watching? I browsed through the catalog and I didn't find anything that interesting. Thinking about it, besides Blacklist I haven't watched any NBC series in a long time.
He is not wrong with what he says below. I add to it.

I posted either above or in another thread. First, they make you choose an avatar, none of which resonated with me one bit or did I know who/what most of them were/are. Why do I need an avatar. The default is a very gay-looking Peacock. Gay as in Gay 90s. OK?
Second, there was not a single show on the list that interested me.
Browsed the movies. I like comedies. Made it all the way through the M movies, and did not recognize a single movie on the list.

I regret the annual purchase. Going forward, I will purchase monthly during college football season.

It's not so much about easier, but having to subscribe to an app full of bloated crap you don't want or will ever watch just to watch a game or two. It would be like buying coffee at a mall, but having to walk from one end of the mall to the other through a bunch of shops you would never buy crap from just to get a coffee. Same thing here.

I would rather donate the money to Rutgers than pay the subscription. But we already donate plenty.
I browsed the catalog a few days ago too and I didn’t find anything interesting either. Makes sense because Blacklist was the only thing on NBC we’ve watched in like forever. I didn’t see any recommendations here either when I’ve asked in the past. So as far as series, it doesn’t sound promising.

I normally do take the annual subscription for these services if available but I usually find multiple things that seem interesting that I can add to my backlog (lol) of stuff in my watchlists. For Peacock, I tend to think I’ll just get it for the month and then cut it off. I don’t really watch sports other than CFB so having no interesting series doesn’t make it an attractive long term add for me.
 

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Anyone knows if you can watch the peacock game on delay (i.e. start 60 minutes late) or do you have to wait till the full replay becomes available? If not, any idea when the replay become available? I remember BIG+ would make you wait like 6 hours after the game.

I have an event that will keep me from watching the start of the game but would like to watch it in its entirety (start to finish).
Did a whole lot of googling and finally found a soccer fan who talks about this. Per him there is no delayed start. Figured I would post it here for anyone else wondering.



3. The Peacock app will have a full game replay available after the game ends. In my EPL viewing experience, the replay should be available within 30-60 minutes after the game ends. It's a DVR-like utility, with one major warning...

4. WARNING: While I just proclaimed the Peacock app to have DVR-like capabilities, be very careful if you're coming from the DirecTV world of DVRs or are accustomed to YTTV that allow you to watch a recorded live event from the beginning (or catch up to live by watching key replays). With DirecTV, I would usually wait about 60 minutes after kickoff before watching the recording so I could fast forward through commercials and halftime. My EPL viewing experience on Peacock has taught me, though, that you cannot catch up to real time in a similar fashion. The only Peacock option that I see if I tune in to a live event after its start time is a "Watch Now" button. Press this button at your own risk if you prefer not knowing the score and think you're watching a true DVR recording - you will be viewing the LIVE event as if you have turned on the TV circa 1983. Wait for the full game replay to be posted to the Peacock app (see #3 above) if you prefer not knowing the score before you watch the game.
 
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Funny when I was complaining about Yankees games on Amazon, people called me out and basically said just pay for it, don't be cheap. Now many of the same oned are crying about having to pay for a lot of crap just to get a few games.
I’ll never call anyone out for trying to save money. Do what works for you.
 
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I’ll never call anyone out for trying to save money. Do what works for you.
What was funny my complaint wasn't about money. The complaint was the MLB still advertised their MLB Package as "you will get all out of market games" when you do not get Amazon or YouTube games.
 
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For you MBB fans. Quick inspections, it looked like Princeton/RU and IU/RU games are on Peacock. Also possibly some B10 tourney games where potentially RU could be involved.

 

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Too many games on services you have to pay for cannot be helping the sport. I won't pay yet more for BTN and Peacock and everyone else to watch games. If they're losing me they're probably losing a lot of other fans.
It's just part of a larger theme of Pro and College sports jumping the shark. There's too much of it and it's no longer as appealing. College football had Thursday Nights to themselves which the fans loved and produced great games (especially big east), NFL comes along and creates Thursday games, which often produced a terrible product due to less prep and recovery time, and the players hated it. Now they've gone to Amazon to dilute the product even more. Does anyone care if they miss the Thursday NFL game now? Doubt it.

We all want to watch the Rutgers game, but coercing us to sign up for some service with nothing else of value besides a few games isn't the way to increase viewership.
 
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It's just part of a larger theme of Pro and College sports jumping the shark. There's too much of it and it's no longer as appealing. College football had Thursday Nights to themselves which the fans loved and produced great games (especially big east), NFL comes along and creates Thursday games, which often produced a terrible product due to less prep and recovery time, and the players hated it. Now they've gone to Amazon to dilute the product even more. Does anyone care if they miss the Thursday NFL game now? Doubt it.

We all want to watch the Rutgers game, but coercing us to sign up for some service with nothing else of value besides a few games isn't the way to increase viewership.
They're going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. An easy place to find games, like networks and ESPN, keeps popularity and visibility high. Distribute the games over too many different networks, premium channels and on-demand services and you will lose people. Only diehards will chase all of them. I won't and I'm a pretty interested fan.
 
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NickRU714

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It's just part of a larger theme of Pro and College sports jumping the shark. There's too much of it and it's no longer as appealing. College football had Thursday Nights to themselves which the fans loved and produced great games (especially big east), NFL comes along and creates Thursday games, which often produced a terrible product due to less prep and recovery time, and the players hated it. Now they've gone to Amazon to dilute the product even more. Does anyone care if they miss the Thursday NFL game now? Doubt it.

We all want to watch the Rutgers game, but coercing us to sign up for some service with nothing else of value besides a few games isn't the way to increase viewership.

You just described cable to some.
I'm not paying for E! and HGTV just to get BTN and watch Rutgers game.
I'm canceling cable and BTN.

Sounds exactly the same.
I would also gustsntee there is more "bloat" in cable than Peacock - especially for how much you pay for it.
 
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It's just part of a larger theme of Pro and College sports jumping the shark. There's too much of it and it's no longer as appealing. College football had Thursday Nights to themselves which the fans loved and produced great games (especially big east), NFL comes along and creates Thursday games, which often produced a terrible product due to less prep and recovery time, and the players hated it. Now they've gone to Amazon to dilute the product even more. Does anyone care if they miss the Thursday NFL game now? Doubt it.

We all want to watch the Rutgers game, but coercing us to sign up for some service with nothing else of value besides a few games isn't the way to increase viewership.
It would be a lot easier to just make the game PPV for $5.99 without having to sign up and select some sort of ****** avatar, etc. No problem for that.
 
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You just described cable to some.
I'm not paying for E! and HGTV just to get BTN and watch Rutgers game.
I'm canceling cable and BTN.

Sounds exactly the same.
I would also gustsntee there is more "bloat" in cable than Peacock - especially for how much you pay for it.
It’s all the same. It’s just that one is “grandfathered” into most people’s ecosystems and one isn’t so any sort of change (as is often the case with change) brings consternation.
 
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Knight Shift

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It’s all the same. It’s just that one is “grandfathered” into most people’s ecosystems and one isn’t so any sort of change (as is often the case with change) brings consternation.
It's not the same. With cable TV or a streaming cable service such as YouTube TV, one can access ALL (well, now most) games by quickly changing channels in one location.

With Amazon, Apple, and Peacock, to access a small handful of games on a separate app. A user must close theiir main TV app, switch to a streaming app and then find the game they want to watch. For those that like to flip between games on their TV, this is onerous, and time-consuming. For the more tech savvy, you can put Peacock on your mobile device or computer while watching the rest of the games on TV, but their is probably a fair number of people who are not equipped or inclined to do this.

@NickRU714 likes to play the comedic contrarian, but the reality is this is a PITA. And contrary to his schtick, many people still watch a lot of other content via Cable TV or YouTubeTV- local news, national news, financial news, weather, movies, etc. With YouTubeTV, I can put all my favorite channels at the top of the menu for easy access.

I already detailed that there is nothing of interest on the Peacock app besides a small handful of football games and basketball games. The rest of the content is useless crap to me. I have saidabove that I would have no problem buying games on a pay per view basis, which is much easier than subscribing and unsubscribing to a service I don't want with auto renew.
 
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I have sai above that I would have no problem buying games on a pay per view basis, which is much easier than subscribing and unsubscribing to a service I don't want with auto renew.
I’m surprised this isnt the case…peacock is a worthless nbc network, full of nbc garbage few want to watch.
 
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It's not the same. With cable TV or a streaming cable service such as YouTube TV, one can access ALL (well, now most) games by quickly changing channels in one location.

With Amazon, Apple, and Peacock, to access a small handful of games on a separate app. A user must close theiir main TV app, switch to a streaming app and then find the game they want to watch. For those that like to flip between games on their TV, this is onerous, and time-consuming. For the more tech savvy, you can put Peacock on your mobile device or computer while watching the rest of the games on TV, but their is probably a fair number of people who are not equipped or inclined to do this.

@NickRU714 likes to play the comedic contrarian, but the reality is this is a PITA. And contrary to his schtick, many people still watch a lot of other content via Cable TV or YouTubeTV- local news, national news, financial news, weather, movies, etc. With YouTubeTV, I can put all my favorite channels at the top of the menu for easy access.

I already detailed that there is nothing of interest on the Peacock app besides a small handful of football games and basketball games. The rest of the content is useless crap to me. I have saidabove that I would have no problem buying games on a pay per view basis, which is much easier than subscribing and unsubscribing to a service I don't want with auto renew.
When I say all the same, I'm not talking about functionality or ease of use and more in terms of paying for content. Whether it's cable or streaming services, we're paying for content.

In one case (cable/youtube tv), it's almost like a utility so people don't think of it as different or "extra" and it's just part of our everyday ecosystem and is sort of "grandfathered" into most people's minds. But if you have to get a streaming service it has that feel of different and "extra" but it's still boils down to the same thing, it's paying for content. A streaming service just seems like extra and different because it's not part of our everyday ecosystem.

I agree with your comments about usability and functionality. App switching isn't easy. For me, if I'm in a situation like that, I use my iPad for the "extra" app and the big tv for the games on "regular" tv. Also agree that I didn't see any worthwhile content on Peacock besides this game. Don't watch other sports and none of the series looked promising. I normally go for the annual plans but since I don't see a long term value with Peacock, I'll probably just take it for the month and then cut it off. I already have too many things in my watchlist backlog. I'm about as bad as Boeing with their aircraft backlog haha.
 
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