Sam ranks this season's games

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From easiest to toughest. When looking at the season like this, I'd say it's most likely we lose either 3 or four games. Five is somewhat probable, maybe as probably as losing only two. I'd say we should win the games Sam ranks 12 through 6, then lose to tOSU and one to either Wisky or NW. I think we beat Iowa. I have no idea about Oregon, but I'll call it an early season loss.

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4 of out the 5 toughest on the road

NW, Wisc, Iowa and OSU -- if we can split those and win the home games (oregon is a coin flip) that shapes up to a very good season

will be more than happy with that and feel reassured that Riley and company are on the right path even though there might be some that are banking on a 12-1 campaign and will be calling for his hide if we lose 3-4 games
 
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4 of out the 5 toughest on the road

NW, Wisc, Iowa and OSU -- if we can split those and win the home games (oregon is a coin flip) that shapes up to a very good season

will be more than happy with that and feel reassured that Riley and company are on the right path even though there might be some that are banking on a 12-1 campaign and will be calling for his hide if we lose 3-4 games
Wins against Iowa and Wisconsin will go a long way. I'm thinking it's an 8-4 season and would be fine with it considering last year and now our recruiting is taking off
 
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4 of out the 5 toughest on the road

NW, Wisc, Iowa and OSU -- if we can split those and win the home games (oregon is a coin flip) that shapes up to a very good season

will be more than happy with that and feel reassured that Riley and company are on the right path even though there might be some that are banking on a 12-1 campaign and will be calling for his hide if we lose 3-4 games


I'm one of those optimists but have learned I need to temper expectations until TA has moved on. His turnovers aren't going to magically stop in one year. That said, I'm still going with 12-1!. I was the same way with TM...always hoped turnovers would go away but some guys are just sloppy with the ball. part of the deal.
 

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I'm one of those optimists but have learned I need to temper expectations until TA has moved on. His turnovers aren't going to magically stop in one year. That said, I'm still going with 12-1!. I was the same way with TM...always hoped turnovers would go away but some guys are just sloppy with the ball. part of the deal.
Taylor wasn't a quarterback he was an athlete and his game mirrored that. Tommy on the other hand is a quarterback and he played the perfect mental game against UCLA. We are going to be so loaded with playmakers on offense that Tommy needs to run the offense and distribute the ball. Do that and he will be extremely successful.
 

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Taylor wasn't a quarterback he was an athlete and his game mirrored that. Tommy on the other hand is a quarterback and he played the perfect mental game against UCLA. We are going to be so loaded with playmakers on offense that Tommy needs to run the offense and distribute the ball. Do that and he will be extremely successful.


Taylor 59.8% - completion 56 TDs -- 29 Ints -- QB rating 136
Armstrong 54% - completion 53 TDs -- 36 Ints -- QB rating 129.7


So Tommy Armstrong has a worse completion %, worse TD/Int ratio, and worse QB rating. Taylor's rushing stats were better than Armstrong's.

Not sure how you can conclude that Tommy is a much better QB. Martinez's passing #s and rushing #s are both better than TAs. TA has a chance to improve the #s his senior year. Taylor didn't play much of his senior year.
 

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Taylor 59.8% - completion 56 TDs -- 29 Ints -- QB rating 136
Armstrong 54% - completion 53 TDs -- 36 Ints -- QB rating 129.7


So Tommy Armstrong has a worse completion %, worse TD/Int ratio, and worse QB rating. Taylor's rushing stats were better than Armstrong's.

Not sure how you can conclude that Tommy is a much better QB. Martinez's passing #s and rushing #s are both better than TAs. TA has a chance to improve the #s his senior year. Taylor didn't play much of his senior year.
Bo was more interested in building up Taylor's numbers to throw it in people's faces at the expense of the team and depth. Kind of like parading around with a cat... pretty professional wouldn't you say???
 

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Bo was more interested in building up Taylor's numbers to throw it in people's faces at the expense of the team and depth. Kind of like parading around with a cat... pretty professional wouldn't you say???

No, Bo wanted to win and he thought this gave him the best chance to do so. Do you have some proof that was Bo's intent or are you mind reading once again. I always wonder about people who speculate what is going on in other people's heads.

Try as you would like, it is hard to avoid the raw facts on some things isn't it.
 

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Bo was more interested in building up Taylor's numbers to throw it in people's faces at the expense of the team and depth. Kind of like parading around with a cat... pretty professional wouldn't you say???
Let's not make this a Bo thing. Taylor was a better QB thus far but TA has the coaches to actually help him
 
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rez dog 70

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No, Bo wanted to win and he thought this gave him the best chance to do so. Do you have some proof that was Bo's intent or are you mind reading once again. I always wonder about people who speculate what is going on in other people's heads.

Try as you would like, it is hard to avoid the raw facts on some things isn't it.
Best chance at winning like Oklahoma in the Title game??? Zac Lee was ready to go yet Bo kept sending in a critical hurt Taylor back into the game. Sounds like the special Wisconsin defense that was practiced yet never used because of a crazy coach.
 
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From my family member that was on the team when Martinez came in as a QB, they couldn't stop him in practice, so it only made sense compared to what they had with the other QB's. I get the argument, but it wasn't like Zach Lee was this big time stud. It was probably mostly a wash between a hurt Taylor and a healthy Lee. He went with the one who had more game experience I imagine.

I agree that is Tommy can finally hold it together (which I think he can) we could be very good this year. Ohio State is the only real game I am chalking up as a loss, and you never know. We could knock them off and lose another dumb game somewhere. We are going to have weapons, and as long as we can get even a little more D than we had last year we are going to win at least 3-4 more games. If the D shines, we are going to be tough to deal with.
 

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Let me try to do this the way Rover thinks we should...
If tommy has a good year, it's because of Mike Riley.
If tommy has a bad year, it's because he is sabotaging the team and is pissed Bo got canned.
That goes for every player and game.
Is that about right, rover?
 

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Let me try to do this the way Rover thinks we should...
If tommy has a good year, it's because of Mike Riley.
If tommy has a bad year, it's because he is sabotaging the team and is pissed Bo got canned.
That goes for every player and game.
Is that about right, rover?
I consider it my Husker duty to be the Pied Piper for all the " I really want Nebraska to fail but I'll act like I don't" crowd. Now everyone knows who you are.
 

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I think Tommy will have a good year and it will be because of him. The UCLA game was a perfect study tool for him over the off season. It showed him that playing within the offense will lead to great things for him.
 

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The coaching aspect is huge beyond compare but the student has to be willing to take the instruction. That's why Riley talked about getting back to work each week. Stay consistent and positive and the coaching will begin to take hold.
 

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I think Tommy will have a good year and it will be because of him. The UCLA game was a perfect study tool for him over the off season. It showed him that playing within the offense will lead to great things for him.

I would say that the coaching staff, particularly on offense, had better use the UCLA game tape as its study tool. The stuck with running the ball and ran it for 62 times against UCLA. I would say that is one that the game plan the coaches had won them the game. Conversely I would say that the game plans for Miami, Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue lost them the game. Entirely too many pass attempts and it was really troubling to watch this staff last year have no idea of how to generate a running game.
I would put a fair amount of blame on the staff for how they handled TA last year. They didn't know how to best use him and that is on them.
 
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I would say that the coaching staff, particularly on offense, had better use the UCLA game tape as its study tool. The stuck with running the ball and ran it for 62 times against UCLA. I would say that is one that the game plan the coaches had won them the game. Conversely I would say that the game plans for Miami, Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue lost them the game. Entirely too many pass attempts and it was really troubling to watch this staff last year have no idea of how to generate a running game.
I would put a fair amount of blame on the staff for how the handled TA last year. They didn't know how to best use him and that is on them.
I totally agree with having Ozigbo be the main back in an old school Washington Redskins pro style offense.
 

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I would say that the coaching staff, particularly on offense, had better use the UCLA game tape as its study tool. The stuck with running the ball and ran it for 62 times against UCLA. I would say that is one that the game plan the coaches had won them the game. Conversely I would say that the game plans for Miami, Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue lost them the game. Entirely too many pass attempts and it was really troubling to watch this staff last year have no idea of how to generate a running game.
I would put a fair amount of blame on the staff for how the handled TA last year. They didn't know how to best use him and that is on them.

I'm interested in seeing how we approach this season. I can understand Riley's approach to game planning, he thinks that's what we need to do to be successful. Unfortunately, it's not a "one-size-fits-all" world, and our personnel do not exactly mesh with Riley's approach. We need to win games, and I hope our planning takes into account our personnel and the teams we're playing.

On McKewon's list, we played 2 out of the 4 teams he has listed 9 thru 12. And we lost to both of those teams last year. We can't give up those "easier" games and hope to be successful.
 

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I consider it my Husker duty to be the Pied Piper for all the " I really want Nebraska to fail but I'll act like I don't" crowd. Now everyone knows who you are.
RollingLaugh
Nice aversion, you seem to do that a lot.
I like to base things on what people actually say instead of putting words in their mouth.
You are the one who blamed the players for the problems of last season.
It would be convenient for you if I actually wanted Nebraska to fail since all of my arguments are better than yours and I am very good at pointing out that fact that you are an idiot. However, I don't want NU to fail. What you are doing is akin to someone saying "Racist" when someone disagrees with one of Obama's policies. Can't argue based on fact or merit, you simply have to try to make the other person seem to have horrible intent to distract and deflect.
Thank you for proving, yet again, that you are in fact an idiot.
*And you are a Blotard and Riley hater for saying we are going to lose a game this season. My gawd man, how dare you doubt the great Riley after we dominated the competition in that 6-7 season last year. Or you must want Riley to fail since you've set the expectations so lofty that he can't meet them. Hater!
See how that works?
 

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RollingLaugh
Nice aversion, you seem to do that a lot.
I like to base things on what people actually say instead of putting words in their mouth.
You are the one who blamed the players for the problems of last season.
It would be convenient for you if I actually wanted Nebraska to fail since all of my arguments are better than yours and I am very good at pointing out that fact that you are an idiot. However, I don't want NU to fail. What you are doing is akin to someone saying "Racist" when someone disagrees with one of Obama's policies. Can't argue based on fact or merit, you simply have to try to make the other person seem to have horrible intent to distract and deflect.
Thank you for proving, yet again, that you are in fact an idiot.
*And you are a Blotard and Riley hater for saying we are going to lose a game this season. My gawd man, how dare you doubt the great Riley after we dominated the competition in that 6-7 season last year. Or you must want Riley to fail since you've set the expectations so lofty that he can't meet them. Hater!
See how that works?

I'm over with the big boys on RSS right now...
 

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Ok I'm back...
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or.......everyone could write short incoherent remarks one after the other replying to your own post that are totally unrelated. That makes much more sense??
 
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or.......everyone could write short incoherent remarks one after the other replying to your own post that are totally unrelated. That makes much more sense??
My posts are to the point and hit home which is exactly why you guys are rustled.
 

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Taylor 59.8% - completion 56 TDs -- 29 Ints -- QB rating 136
Armstrong 54% - completion 53 TDs -- 36 Ints -- QB rating 129.7


So Tommy Armstrong has a worse completion %, worse TD/Int ratio, and worse QB rating. Taylor's rushing stats were better than Armstrong's.

Not sure how you can conclude that Tommy is a much better QB. Martinez's passing #s and rushing #s are both better than TAs. TA has a chance to improve the #s his senior year. Taylor didn't play much of his senior year.


They both were and have been erratic as passers. I do believe there are 2 areas that aren't being mentioned with the above stats where Tommy is considerably better:

1. Tommy doesn't take sacks and he escapes a pass rush much better than Taylor.
2. Tommy doesn't fumble like Taylor. There were times where Martinez literally lost the handle on the football every time contact was made.
 

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1. Tommy doesn't take sacks and he escapes a pass rush much better than Taylor.
Very true, but there have been many times where TA should have taken a sack, but instead thew the ball while being taken down and ends up throwing a pick. Or he'll avoid a sack, but end up running out of bounds for a 7+ yard loss instead of just throwing it away.

Not disagreeing with you post though. Maybe I'm just typing out my frustration in TA's decision making while thinking about it.
 

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Very true, but there have been many times where TA should have taken a sack, but instead thew the ball while being taken down and ends up throwing a pick. Or he'll avoid a sack, but end up running out of bounds for a 7+ yard loss instead of just throwing it away.

Not disagreeing with you post though. Maybe I'm just typing out my frustration in TA's decision making while thinking about it.


by "many times," that's only amounted to about 3 times during his career. Believe it or not, most of Tommy's interceptions are not the result of being flushed out of the pocket. His picks are often just poor throws due to poor reads and mind boggling decisions. When you throw the ball to a linebacker sitting in zone coverage who is 12 yards away from any receiver, nobody is more surprised than the linebacker.
 
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Predicting season records in May is always a dicey proposition -and a bit foolish since opponent's strengths and weaknesses are not apparent either. I would be a bit leery in making any guesses until I see how the already thin defensive line performs.

If you can't stop the run B10 teams will exploit that weakness mercilessly. Teams like Ohio State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, and even Purdue will pound the ground if they see a suspect D-line on film. If that's the case, the offense better be good enough to score around 35 ppg (with less TOP) to make it a contest.
 

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Taylor 59.8% - completion 56 TDs -- 29 Ints -- QB rating 136
Armstrong 54% - completion 53 TDs -- 36 Ints -- QB rating 129.7


So Tommy Armstrong has a worse completion %, worse TD/Int ratio, and worse QB rating. Taylor's rushing stats were better than Armstrong's.

Not sure how you can conclude that Tommy is a much better QB. Martinez's passing #s and rushing #s are both better than TAs. TA has a chance to improve the #s his senior year. Taylor didn't play much of his senior year.


just curious what is the fumble comparison between the 2?
 

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just curious what is the fumble comparison between the 2?

I cant find fumble numbers

Taylor's junior year --- 1st team all conference (coach's selection) despite leading the league in INTs (12)
1st in passing efficiency
1st in total yards
1st in yards per play
1 total TDs
2nd in conf in completion %
2nd in passing yards
2nd in TD passes

TA--- has never even been named to an honorable mention team -- led the league in INTs (16) - was 2nd in the nation in INTs

I think people underestimate how inept TA has been to date ... hopefully that improves
 
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rez dog 70

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I cant find fumble numbers

Taylor's junior year --- 1st team all conference (coach's selection) despite leading the league in INTs (12)
1st in passing efficiency
1st in total yards
1st in yards per play
1 total TDs
2nd in conf in completion %
2nd in passing yards
2nd in TD passes

TA--- has never even been named to an honorable mention team -- led the league in INTs (16) - was 2nd in the nation in INTs

I think people underestimate how inept TA has been to date ... hopefully that improves
How many Bowl wins does Taylor Martinez have as a starting quarterback? How many Bowl wins does Tommy Armstrong have as a starting quarterback? I'll wait for your answer.
 

rez dog 70

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While we're at it how many Bowl wins does C.J. BeatHard have as a starting quarterback? I'll wait for your answer.
 

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How many Bowl wins does Taylor Martinez have as a starting quarterback? How many Bowl wins does Tommy Armstrong have as a starting quarterback? I'll wait for your answer.

can play this all day ... how many total losses does TA have, how many divisional titles does TA have?

and the trump card:

vs Iowa

TM 2-0

TA 1-1

2014 --- needed a furious comeback to get OT win (kudos but very lucky not to be 0 for 2)
2015 --- 4 INTs - essentially lost the game all by his lonesome
 
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rez dog 70

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Hell I'll even throw Bo Pelini some love...
What's Bo Pelini's Bowl record starting anybody other than Taylor Martinez?
I'll wait for @jlb321 to answer?
 

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Anointing Taylor Martinez as his starting quarterback was the worst decision Bo Pelini ever made. And it's not the kids fault because he was not a quarterback to begin with.