If he goes 0-2 then he shouldn't be going to NCAA. Can't believe a 60-0 guy would bring up 0-2.
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If my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle.If he goes 0-2 then he shouldn't be going to NCAA. Can't believe a 60-0 guy would bring up 0-2.
In this particular situation, you do not chance missing NCAAs.
Anybody can be beat every single time you toe the line.
Don’t chance it.
He will already allocate and the top 7 will go. I don't see a scenario where 133 does get 7 unless someone gets hurt.
One of those guys would need to beat Jax after he lost to someone else who's gonna allocate. That's not happening Chase.
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For the record, I don’t think anyone beats Jax!
I also believe the staff thinks he can win it.
But, the Big Xii hasn’t allocated 7 in several years.
You can't look at past years at all. It's about the guys currently at the weight and them actually allocating with CR , WP and RPI or 2 of the 3
So give me the rundown on how 33 gets enough spots to guarantee Jax gets in regardless of results at the conference tournament.
Educate me.
No guarantee but when you allocate typically 4-5 guys who allocate don't fall on their face conference weekend. If he was upset and didn't place top 7 he would get one of the 4-6 spots remaining. I listed the 7 guys above take a look at the records and where they're ranked. WS also has an RPI that's pretty accurate
I can't believe the guy who picks 10 guys to AA is now acting like Jax might struggle at big 12s
BS!I can't believe the guy who picks 10 guys to AA is now acting like Jax might struggle at big 12s
Im saying thats the hedge. Again, I think he wins the whole thing!
Okay but when a guy already has a 99% of making the tournament, you should start making decisions based on improving his seed instead of trying to increase his chances of making it to 99.5%.
Maybe getting an RPI ranking ends up being more important for seeding than one big win, but I feel like a win against an undefeated Seidel would go a long way towards improving his seed
Maybe getting an RPI ranking ends up being more important for seeding than one big win, but I feel like a win against an undefeated Seidel would go a long way towards improving his seed
What if covid hits and they cancel everythingOk but what if Frost, Larkin and Serrano all go 0-2 at B12?
Then Jax (and rest of our Fr) would get 8 more years correct?What if covid hits and they cancel everything
At least. The Dusty Hone planThen Jax (and rest of our Fr) would get 8 more years correct?
. He was done at Oklahoma st 9 years after he graduated HS. He did a 2 year mission in the middle though.
All the talk about a Jax hypothetical victory over Seidel boosting Jax seed more than a guaranteed 15-match RPI seems to discount Seidel might not wrestle a la Evan Frost. Seidel will get to 15 without wrestling Jax.
I'm with @chasepollard, a bird in the hand and all.
I'm with @chasepollard, a bird in the hand and all.
Seidel could've sat other matches to get to 15 he will still have a couple matches at ACCs. I don't see him sitting
Seidel definitely would not duck. He sought out Jax for his final PIAA state championship run. And you know ever since that match he's been dying for another chance.
Maybe Tony Robie wants to keep his eye on the prize, whatever he sees gives Aaron the best shot at a NCAA title. So it might not matter what Aaron might prefer.
I am open minded to the possibility.
Of course, Seidel will wrestle if Jax doesn't.
The athlete typically decides that nowadays with NIL and rev share . I know most people won't like that but it's just the truth. Some coaches will say it will be up to him if he goes or not
Jax's seed at NCAAs will be fine when he beats Ayala in the dual and Larkin in the B12 semis and Frost in the finals regardless of not wrestling seidel. I think he gets the 2 or the 3. I could see Byrd , Davino, and Blaze getting some combo of the 1,4 and 5. Not sure where an undefeated and conference champ Seidel fits in. His best win is Knox. Im of the opinion a guy MIGHT get an easier match in the quarters (rather see a Larkin than some others) but most likely youre getting a hammer that some are picking to win it and the semis will be insane. This weight alone is worth the price of NCAA tix.
In that scenario I see it
#1 big 10 champ if undefeated
#2 Jax
#3 big 10 2nd
#4 Seidel
#5 big 10 3rd
#6 Frost
#7 Larkin
I could see that. In that scenario Jax cruises to the semis.
Will be interesting to see how Ayala finishes the year and where he will be seeded. Hes a guy most won't want to see early
People often buy into a media contrived story lines.
Facts are: Seidel was growing. He went up weight classes each year. Seidel was seen as a college 133lber. Northern Lebanon had a capable senior who could hold down 127lbs.
But yeah, it could only be about moving up for the challenge of (aka not going out of his way to avoid) Jax Forrest when seeking his 4th PA state title.
The relative ranking positions of Seidel and Forrest make this meaningless out of conference dual a text book case for Seidel to duck.
I will be pleasantly surprised if Jax and Seidel meet up from a competition standpoint. Still, it would mean one less undefeated conference champion entering NCAA seeding. And it might put Jax in a slightly less desirable position for peaking at NCAAs, having competed in two tournaments just before, assuming he goes to a later tournament.
Well if Jax is going to a tournament its this weekend or next. And theyre not gonna sit him against Iowa. So he either wrestles Sunday against Oklahoma st or he hits an open in PA or SD
I agree too much has been made of him "going up" which makes it seem like he was at a size disadvantage and that isn't true. But however you want to slice it, he was the winningest wrestler in PIAA history and he was going for his 4th state title. He could have easily avoided Jax if he was the type to do that
Agree, if he wrestles this weekend anywhere, he will go post season. Figs will probably wrestle Vtech.
It could be to get reps in too. Comments were that he was a little rusty, though it’s hard for me to understand how one could be a little rusty in the middle of a season, even if it’s high school. Scary to think, if he is rusty now, how will he be come March.
Quotes from Seidel after their championship match:
“I didn't want to win at 127 or 139, I knew I could — I knew that wasn't gonna be the hardest route. I wanted to take the hardest route and beat the best guy in the country, it sucks it didn't happen, but I wouldn’t want to go out at 127 or 139.”
“That's my last match probably ever — I don't think there's anything to be sad about, I’m going to wrestle him in college and I'll beat him next time."
Story: https://www.ldnews.com/story/sports...aron-seidel-jax-forrest-class-2a/79434186007/
Because the difference in FS and folk is more significant than many think.
It is highly plausible to have rust. Gas tank isn’t as good generally, training is much different and the mental side of preparing is different.
Supposedly, both Jax and Ramirez are slotted to wrestle this weekend. That would leave me to believe Ramirez will wrestle in post season and Jax came to OSU early to get somewhat of a redshirt year, as Taylor alluded to when Jax first came to Stillwater. I doubt they would scrap RR’s RS for one match with VTech, unless this is not RR’s “6th” match.