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There have been a lot of complaints in Woodford County about some Virtual Students returning when school starts on Monday. But it was clearly stated that they would have to wait until the mid term to change when parents made a choice back in August.

The issue is that schedules have been set and they do not have enough teachers right now to take in probably what will be a ton of kids based upon how awful the virtual school experience is.

One of the dumbass School Board members even mentioned keeping all kids out of school unless they would allow virtual students to come back. Talk about throwing the baby in the with the bathwater.
 
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RunninRichie

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There have been a lot of complaints in Woodford County about some Virtual Students returning when school starts on Monday. But it was clearly stated that they would have to wait until the mid term to change when parents made a choice back in August.

The issue is that schedules have been set and they do not have enough teachers right now to take in probably what will be a ton of kids based upon how awful the virtual school experience is.

One of the dumbass School Board members even mentioned keeping all kids out of school unless they would allow virtual students to come back. Talk about throwing the baby in the with the bathwater.
virtual schooling is a complete and utter JOKE
 

LowerLevelSeatA

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Jun 2, 2005
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In those situations, The people who Picked virtual were told up front you are committing to virtual For x amount of time untill x date...even if they say kids can go back in person. But now that everyone is having horrible experience virtually, people want to change their mind.
 
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Yes. They were reminded over and over of when they could switch to in person. Now they want back to school on Monday and don’t have enough teachers to support it. Basically a logistics nightmare
 

anthonys735

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Yes. They were reminded over and over of when they could switch to in person. Now they want back to school on Monday and don’t have enough teachers to support it. Basically a logistics nightmare
BTW, I think this is the real reason schools were delayed in the first place. More students were opting in than teachers available. At least piecing together the tea leaves, that's what makes the most sense.
 

anthonys735

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Lol, getting paid to be home?

For some teachers they're working equivalent but for others -> the class G was supposed to be in, the teachers has checked out at 9:45a every Friday.

You be the judge.
 

gobigbluebell

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Sep 1, 2020
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I just assumed "virtual" teachers were broadcasting from the classroom. Kids that are allowed to leave the house can go to school, and kids that stay in a bubble can just watch class online.
 

joeyrupption

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Jun 5, 2007
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My son’s virtual kindergarten teacher lives two houses down and broadcasts from her house. I think we could wave to each other during Teams calls.
 

jtrue28

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Feb 8, 2007
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Welp...the email from Fayette Co super is NOT good. They're saying due to a "lag" in case counts and the current "outbreak" at UK, that Fayette Co is now red and they are re-evaluating. They're not going back. GDit all to hell.

But we're allowed to send them out protesting. No issues there. :rolleyes:
 

funKYcat75

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Apr 10, 2008
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Welp...the email from Fayette Co super is NOT good. They're saying due to a "lag" in case counts and the current "outbreak" at UK, that Fayette Co is now red and they are re-evaluating. They're not going back. GDit all to hell.

But we're allowed to send them out protesting. No issues there. :rolleyes:
I didn't read it that way. They're trying to ascertain if it's mostly limited to folks on campus who really aren't in contact with the general public all that much. We've been discussing preparations for a hybrid return quite a bit at my school.
 

funKYcat75

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You might be right. Either way, no one was going back the Monday after fall break. If/when we do return, there will likely be two weeks between when it’s announced and when we actually come back.
 

CatsFanGG24

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Dec 22, 2003
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I didn't read it that way. They're trying to ascertain if it's mostly limited to folks on campus who really aren't in contact with the general public all that much. We've been discussing preparations for a hybrid return quite a bit at my school.
Looks like hybrid is most dangerous and higher likelihood of teacher infection than any other option. (Including full capacity- in person return).
 
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LowerLevelSeatA

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So why can’t UK make all of its classes online only since they are destroying the education opportunities for our children? Sure, UK students would still go to each other’s house to socialize, but shouldn’t online only for them eliminate some of the spread?
 

LowerLevelSeatA

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School system has been looking at Fayette County Case counts to determine if it’s ok to go back to school. UK students are making up a lot of the case count (will have to look at latest data). Also they are including hospice cases and jail cases in those numbers...those people aren’t can’t mingle with the general public. So for those that want their kids back in school, we say take out the Uk students, hospice cases, and jail cases, then see where we are at on king Andy’s fancy color coded chart that determines when it’s “safe” to go back to school. So I don’t think we are using students as scapegoats..just looking to look deeper into the data.
 

LowerLevelSeatA

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So now with the new numbers, Fayette county is in red based on king Andy chart. Red says high school sports should be shut down. Will be interesting to see how KHSAA attempts to get around this.
 

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So now with the new numbers, Fayette county is in red based on king Andy chart. Red says high school sports should be shut down. Will be interesting to see how KHSAA attempts to get around this.

For most of yesterday we though my son's cross country meet on Saturday was going to be cancelled because Woodford County has some rule they can't compete against "red" counties. Seems like logic prevailed somehow because they are still running now.
 

MountainDoc

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So now with the new numbers, Fayette county is in red based on king Andy chart. Red says high school sports should be shut down. Will be interesting to see how KHSAA attempts to get around this.
They won’t. Our game is postponed this Friday. But, no one on either team is (+). But they along with our health dept recommended postponement.
 

buster3.0

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It's surreal how different it is in other parts of the Country. Where I live in Georgia we have been back to in person school for quite a while. There is a virtual option, but the in person option has always been there. And this is Georgia, Corona central, and my County has the highest number of cases. And you know what? School has been going fine. HS football game have been going on for a month at full force. We are still alive down here.
 

CatsFanGG24

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It's surreal how different it is in other parts of the Country. Where I live in Georgia we have been back to in person school for quite a while. There is a virtual option, but the in person option has always been there. And this is Georgia, Corona central, and my County has the highest number of cases. And you know what? School has been going fine. HS football game have been going on for a month at full force. We are still alive down here.
There’s a lady on twitter who is a great follow for all the GA covid data. I believe she has shown that cases started receding in children around the first week of school or so. Didn’t rise with reopening. Good deal!
 
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anthonys735

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Our matrix for safe reopening is unattainable. Literally not possible at the testing level we're at when factoring in false positives. Purgatory.

 
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Schools are having to cancel games against Fayette County schools due to their positivity rate is deemed critical. 26.2 cases/100K. Critical starts at 25/100K. Dumb as hell.
 
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At 5:08 received an email from criss country coach that we could not compete in cross country because Fayette county was in the red. Then at 5:13 got another saying to hold on because they were in the orange. Stupid *** arbitrary ********.
 

CatsFanGG24

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Sorry, JCPS. Fayette is sure to follow. What an absolute disgrace and failure to our most vulnerable. Unbelievable.




I’d love to see those GA school districts stats when they started school bc I know everything dropped right after school starting. They love to call out school closures and cases last month from GA and MS, but aren’t revisiting those places now....

Multiple studies now show full capacity in person has the same teacher infection rate as full remote learning. Crazy that educational systems do not look at studies. Lol
 
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funKYcat75

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From one of the FCPS board members. Usually the most clear headed one, and also the most vocal.

“Here's what we know based on the information received this morning. I was able to join the meeting briefly and ask questions of our local public health officials. I appreciate them and representatives from UK taking the time to share information with the Board.

I asked Dr. Humbaugh, Commissioner of the Lexington-Fayette County Health Department, specifically if, based on the available data, we were experiencing substantial community transmission of COVID-19. His answer was yes. This is reflected in data reported by the Kentucky Department of Health, the Lexington-Fayette County Health Department, and the White House's Coronavirus Task Force.

Based on this public health reality, the path to returning to in-person instruction in the immediate future is difficult. Certainly the relatively high number of COVID-19 cases at University of Kentucky is having an impact on Fayette County's reported Incidence Rate. But Dr. Humbaugh noted that, even if you removed these cases, Fayette would still be experiencing accelerated spread of the virus and be designated an "orange" county. At the same time, the transmission of the virus at UK also means that the virus is present and being transmitted in the community.

I know many are frustrated and feel like UK's inclusion in the count will make it harder for us to stabilize rates of transmission. As I underscored yesterday, it is a reminder that reducing the spread of this virus is a shared endeavor. We have to work with the city, the university, and all stakeholders to take meaningful steps in this direction.

Based on the information that I have received, I am not convinced that we have to wait until a vaccine is available to return to in-person instruction. The best estimates put widespread vaccine distribution "well into 2021." Waiting until then, I don't think, is a tenable solution.

I do think that this is an opportunity for us to be creative and engage our educators and families in developing options as we navigate the realities of this pandemic--a pandemic with which we will have to live for the next several months.

I know folks want answers now, immediately. I know people want a specific date. But pandemics, as we have learned, don't operate on our preferred schedules. How do we move forward? One step at a time. Here are some of my thoughts moving forward:

1. Continue to monitor relevant data and evaluate it in our community context. This includes being mindful of community transmission. The response cannot be "UK doesn't count" if the UK data tell us that there is widespread transmission of the virus in our community.

2. Collaborate and communicate with the University of Kentucky, LFUCG, and other stakeholders to work toward reducing rates of community transmission.

3. Avoid "all or nothing" thinking. Again, we must be creative. Does this include creating opportunities for small pods of students who need additional supports? How can we make creative use of our facilities during extended closures to support families? We have an incredible pool of talent to tap into: our educators--the people who know our students the best. We must engage them and our families--who know what's happening "on the ground"--to work toward solutions as we move from remote to in-person instruction. They absolutely have to be included in this conversation.

4. To that end, how can we maximize our supports and resources to our students and families--especially those who need special education services and who rely on our schools for so much more than learning?

5. Speaking of being creative, we have to consider that there may be families who opted into NTI-2DL because of their commitment to our specialized programs or other services but who won't be comfortable with a return to in-person instruction. Likewise, there may be staff who aren't comfortable returning. I will continue to advocate for a "third option" that involves some form of virtual learning for those families who are not in the Virtual Learning Academy when a decision to return to in-person instruction is made. We have seen this approach in other districts, including where I teach.

6. Communicate clearly, consistently, and meaningfully. I know that this is a difficult time for all of us. I never imagined when I ran for this position I would be serving in the middle of a global pandemic. But I didn't ask for you to place your trust in me because I thought it would be easy. I recognize my obligation to be as open and transparent as possible. I will continue to engage in that conversation. And I will continue to expect clear and consistent communication from the district to our stakeholders.

7. The challenges presented by this pandemic do not excuse our obligation to be kind and civil to each other. This is not a political debate. This virus does not discriminate in terms of political party, although we do know it disproportionality impacts our Black and Hispanic neighbors. That, too, is an important consideration as we think about the impacts on our children, our staff, and their families in FCPS. Families have lost loved ones because of this pandemic. We defile their memory if we use this pandemic to devolve into political pettiness. And my number one commitment through all of this noise must be the health and safety of our children, our staff, and their families.

Our choice, ultimately, is not "NTI" vs "in-person." It is, at its core, about the safest path forward for our community in the context of a global pandemic. We won't be in this pandemic forever. And developing solutions will require all of us working together now and moving forward.”