School Re-Opening

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vhcat70

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He is absolutely THE one keeping this going. Friend of mine, who happens to be a practicing physican and has 2 school aged children, wrote a letter/email to someone in Frankfort regarding is disappointment in the decisions being made regarding returning to school.

He received a response almost immediately by a state senator, who also happens to be a physician, that absolutely agreed with him. Basically said most of them (state reps/senators) agree with him. Problem is, King Andy is making these decisions on his own. A couple direct quotes from the email response...

"Unfortunately, the Governor does not communicate with the members of the General Assembly at all. He has not communicated with us through this entire 'emergency period.'"

"As a colleague, I agree with you and appreciate your input on this matter. However, the decisions being made on this front are being done by one man alone, and that is Andy Beshear."

This particular state senator, along with some others, is drafting a bill to limit the governor's power when it comes to emergency powers.
Just impeach him. Majority of both houses is all that is needed.
 
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CB3UK

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It really is time to making a push towards impeachment. This is so out of control ridiculous.
 
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LowerLevelSeatA

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From the article above: “But increased contact, even in practices, for football, soccer and volleyball is currently prohibited under the governor’s existing orders for “youth” sports.” well obviously you have to have contact in those sports, So king Andy would have to amend his order to allow more contact which would be him admitting the virus isn’t spreading/isn’t deadly to the extent he tells us.
 
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PhDcat2018

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From the article above: “But increased contact, even in practices, for football, soccer and volleyball is currently prohibited under the governor’s existing orders for “youth” sports.” well obviously you have to have contact in those sports, So king Andy would have to amend his order to allow more contact which would be him admitting the virus isn’t spreading/isn’t deadly to the extent he tells us.
If he doesn't let it go, there will be a **** storm.
 
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I heard that Lexington Catholic was reverting to virtual after going 3 days last week. Not sure what sense that makes.
 

BASCat

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They had a few cases I heard. Not sure on it. If we treat a couple cases as death sentences then this is going to be real hard to keep schools open unfortunately.
 
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anthonys735

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I heard that Lexington Catholic was reverting to virtual after going 3 days last week. Not sure what sense that makes.
It's just wild to me that they didn't anticipate kids being kids in these re-opening plans. HS/College kids are going to do their thing. They just are. I assumed, these leaders had weighed that risk, and felt like the stats still prove they're safe.

🤣 @ their plans being to NOT have cases and shame kids into not partying or gathering.
 
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Lexington Catholic kids had a "back to school party two saturday's ago. Supposedly a kid showed up at school last week who exhibited symptoms. went home and tested positive. All the other kids who were at that party were tested. not sure how many were tested, but I believe six tested positive. So, in theory, there were 6 kids at Lex Cath who had it last week. Sounds to me like they're shutting down through labor day to make sure there wasn't mass spread by those six kids. If there wasn't "mass spread" then they know their protocols are working.
 
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LowerLevelSeatA

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So Andy is going to allow high school sports and allow 18,000 fans at Kroger field. Will there be at least 1 case that results from these “gatherings”? Of course there will and that 1 case could kill somebody. So he’s going to allow that but not allow my kids to go back to school because.....???? It’s terrible what he is doing to the kids. It’s not about the kids in Andy’s world..it’s about $$$, sports, and politics. Where does Kentucky education system rank?
 

ryanbruner

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So Andy is going to allow high school sports and allow 18,000 fans at Kroger field. Will there be at least 1 case that results from these “gatherings”? Of course there will and that 1 case could kill somebody. So he’s going to allow that but not allow my kids to go back to school because.....???? It’s terrible what he is doing to the kids. It’s not about the kids in Andy’s world..it’s about $$$, sports, and politics. Where does Kentucky education system rank?
My brothers school is opening up and so are all of the schools in his district? Why are the schools you’re referring staying closed?
 

anthonys735

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My brothers school is opening up and so are all of the schools in his district? Why are the schools you’re referring staying closed?
Ummm... he recommended the state schools wait. Then veiled a threat if schools opened. Only 2 districts and most private schools opened.
 
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LowerLevelSeatA

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So Fayette County just voted to follow KHSAA recommendations and allow full contact sports. So stupidly again..my kids can’t go to school in person (with masks, social distancing, etc) but kids can play FULL CONTACT sports (without masks, social distancing, etc.). Makes total sense, right?
 

anthonys735

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Posted this in the China Virus thread but important enough to post here as well.



By contrast, fewer children have died this year from Covid-19 than from flu. And studies in Sweden, where most schools stayed open, and the Netherlands, where they reopened in May, found teachers at no greater risk than the overall population. This suggests reopening schools outside of hot spots, with protective measures, shouldn’t worsen the epidemic, while alleviating the toll on working parents and on children.

If schools don’t reopen until next January, McKinsey & Co. estimates, low-income children will have lost a year of education, which it says translates into 4% lower lifetime earnings.
 
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So Fayette County just voted to follow KHSAA recommendations and allow full contact sports. So stupidly again..my kids can’t go to school in person (with masks, social distancing, etc) but kids can play FULL CONTACT sports (without masks, social distancing, etc.). Makes total sense, right?

60 kids playing football vs. 2,000 kids in a school building. Guess I don’t follow your logic. One really has nothing to do with the other.
 
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LowerLevelSeatA

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As Andy always says 1 death is 1 too many. So 60 kids playing football.....What chance is there that at least 1 case will result from that? If there is one case, how many people can it spread too? Of those that it spreads to, how many people could die from covid? How many deaths does Andy say is too many and thus why schools must stay closed? Reply with your answers to those 4 basic questions and you will see my “logic” and thus you will see how absurd Andy’s arbitrary takes are. One more question to ponder..are they gonna have 60 locker rooms..one for each kid? By the way, there have already been cases of kids with covid in Lexington just from practicing sports..I know for a fact straight from someone directly involved with sports. So if they have had cases pop up in practices, guess what will happen in games if they are being honest?
 
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As Andy always says 1 death is 1 too many. So 60 kids playing football.....What chance is there that at least 1 case will result from that? If there is one case, how many people can it spread too? Of those that it spreads to, how many people could die from covid? How many deaths does Andy say is too many and thus why schools must stay closed? Reply with your answers to those 4 basic questions and you will see my “logic” and thus you will see how absurd Andy’s arbitrary takes are. One more question to ponder..are they gonna have 60 locker rooms..one for each kid?

i don’t care what Andy says. I use common sense
 

LowerLevelSeatA

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But you are saying it’s ok to play sports but not ok to put kids back in school...same as Andy. That’s what me and you are debating. Didn’t think you would answer the questions because it would lead you to either no sports and no in person school or have sports and have in person school.
 
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P no
But you are saying it’s ok to play sports but not ok to put kids back in school...same as Andy. That’s what me and you are debating. Didn’t think you would answer the questions because it would lead you to either no sports and no in person school or have sports and have in person school.


I didn’t say it wasn’t ok to put kids in school. I simply stated the obvious, that sports does not put as many kids together as school does.

I also don’t think one is related to the other.

but alas, I think we should have kids in school. We need to figure out a way to do it. It’s easier and less risky to have sports than school but think we need to figure out a way to make school happen. But one decision has nothing to do with the other.
 

bigsmoothie

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Goukcatsgo-
As Andy always says 1 death is 1 too many. So 60 kids playing football.....What chance is there that at least 1 case will result from that? If there is one case, how many people can it spread too? Of those that it spreads to, how many people could die from covid? How many deaths does Andy say is too many and thus why schools must stay closed? Reply with your answers to those 4 basic questions and you will see my “logic” and thus you will see how absurd Andy’s arbitrary takes are. One more question to ponder..are they gonna have 60 locker rooms..one for each kid? By the way, there have already been cases of kids with covid in Lexington just from practicing sports..I know for a fact straight from someone directly involved with sports. So if they have had cases pop up in practices, guess what will happen in games if they are being honest?
You don’t like the governor. No matter what he does you will disagree
 

bigsmoothie

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If he gave choice I think most people would agree but he takes the choice from us in most instances
All governors, representatives, senators, and president make decisions for people everyday. Many of those decisions I don’t like. But that’s life.
 
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I get it, but we are having to claw every bit of normalcy piece by piece. I don’t agree to throw the baby out with the bath water in the cases of in person schools and athletics.
I think we should be doing both. I really think believe it or not he felt more pressure from parents on sports than schools in a real effed up way.
 

jwheat

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All governors, representatives, senators, and president make decisions for people everyday. Many of those decisions I don’t like. But that’s life.
That’s not how it’s supposed to work and that’s where the duopoly American political system has gotten us. Idiots will shut their eyes and deep throat these politicians as long as they have the right letter beside their name. One side is ******* us from the front and the other is ******* us from the back.
 

bigsmoothie

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Lol at Ed, Levi, and UKVisitor. They all went to the school of Baghdad Bob..nothing to see here. It all makes total sense, no hypocrisy, all you other people are just crazy.
Sounds like you want someone else to deal with your kids. It won’t kill you to help with a little homework.
 

LowerLevelSeatA

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It’s about much more than that. I can handle it. Sure it will be difficult to work my full time job and teach two kids at the same time. And they will not get the same level of education as they would with a in person full time dedicated teacher at school. It’s about my kids future and their mental well being. You may want to read up on the negative effects of kids not being in the classroom.
 
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don’t get fooled into looking at which school systems have to close for a few days here and there. There will be cases of the virus and schools should close down when they find cases. Look at the community’s rate of spread and compare it to before they opened the schools. If there isn’t a significant increase in community spread, we find out that opening school doesn’t accelerate the spread. Is that the point of keeping things shut down? To slow the spread?

remember, you have to compare “school” to what is going on right now in communities. I know kids aren’t hiding in bunkers where I live. They’re running around doing whatever they want.
 
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