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CadaverDawg

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You are so full of ****. Tebow was like a damn son to Mullen , from Tebow himself in interviews. I doubt that any parents would dislike a guy that takes care of their son while he's at college (except Sandusky). Plus, if the Tebow's are as big of Christians as everyone claims they are......then they wouldn't judge somebody or secretly dislike them for ANY reason. Not going to get too religious in this thread, but God doesn't say, "love your neighbor....unless they're not Christian". Quit spewing bull **** opinions and portraying them as fact. If you really want to help our program, stop posting garbage like that and giving **** to people to use as ammo against our coach and program. That is all, I just get tired of the "not a Christian" horse ****.
 
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But then again, I also like to sprinkle diamonds on my food cause it makes my dookie twinkle. -stolen from Dave Chappelle
 
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So you heard from a friend, who talked to the family, who talked to the Tebow's. Got it. Hey man, I've got some great ocean front property up here in the Midwest. A friend of mine who is real close with a family here who talked to the guy selling the property says it is the best around.
 
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That's news to me. I went to an Episcopal elementery school and we had a prayer every day.
 
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engie

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Tim was best man in Mullen's wedding. Clearly, they weren't close** http://articles.orlandose...-dan-mullen-mullen-house

Tim was unsure of Mullen's Christianity initially at Florida, as they didn't initially discuss it, and Tim didn't like Mullen's brash nature at first. As time went on, Mullen began openly communicating with him about his faith, and they became VERY close toward the end of Mullen's time there. Dan is a Christian. He doesn't flaunt it, he doesn't preach, but it's a fact.

I wish I had an online version of the book and I'd post the Mullen excerpts, so we could put this rumor to rest once and for all.
 
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digdawg said:
The Croom bashing returns by most ignorant posters.
Croom inherited arguably the worst MSU team in history in 2003. The 2002 team and the even worse 2003 team were laughable - it was simply not competitive at all. When Croom was hired in December 2003, MSU had two commitments, both two stars. You have not heard of either one. It was one of the worst recruiting classes ever at MSU. In contrast, when Croom was fired in December 2008, MSU had 21 commitments, and numerous more stellar recruits that were private commitments, were heavily recruited by Croom, and joined the team. It was by the best MSU recruiting class in probably twenty years.That is what Croom did and the difference that Croom made.
Croom first three teams were bad, though his third year team was light years better than his first year team. MSU had the worst talent in the SEC. If you disagree, then why couldn't Jackie win with that talent either? But by his fourth year, Croom had changed that completely. His fourth year, he went 4-4 in the SEC and 8-5 overall with a brutal schedule, beating Alabama and Auburn.
In the spring of 2008, Croom, by no fault of his own, lost the best player on the team, Mike Brown, LT, a starting CB (best CB on team), Anthony Johnson, a starting LB (Jamon Hughes, a stud), a starting DL, Quinten Wesley, and a rotational player on the DL (Rodney Prince). Before the season started, MSU lost its starting TE, Marcus Green, for the season. In the first game of the season, MSU was also without Derek Sherrod, Derek Pegues, and lost the best defensive player on the team, Jamar Chaney, for the entire season to injury.
By dismissals or injury, in just those players, MSU a minimum lost 72 "starts" (would-be starters that missed a start). The highest in DI football that year, by a mile. The total number was greater, and probably at least 80 (I didn't count after those players, but other starters missed starts that year due to injury). That is a staggering number. To put it in perspective, the highest number last year in Division I football was 59 (Maryland). In 2011, by comparison, MSU lost 11 starts - total - for the year to injury or dismissal. (See Phil Steele's blog for all the numbers).
The whole previous paragraph is not an outright lie, but is intentionally misleading Bear Bryant and Steve Spurrier could not survive those types of losses. It was clear to anyone that knows football that by the end of spring, with those players gone, it was going to be a long season for MSU football. Teams can't survive that. Not even Alabama could survive that.
In 2008, MSU lost to La. Tech with crazy turnovers (without 8 starters - think about that - Mike Brown, Quinten Wesley, Derek Pegues, Derrek Sherrod, Marcus Green, Anthony Johnson, Jamar Chaney). We all know all those players because they were studs - they were not just "average" starters, they were the best on the team. That is incredible. Even then, MSU still won two SEC games (same as Mullen has done in 2 out of 3 seasons!), and lost two other SEC games by 1 point. The team was 3 points from a bowl game.
It was no surprise when 2009 was better, though I believe Croom would have made a bowl in 2009 with an easier schedule. His good recruits were now in the program.
Name one player recruited by Mullen that has been a major contributor to MSU football so far and is considered one of the"best" players at MSU? There is one - JUCO Vic Ballard. Every other player that has made any all SEC 1 to 3rd team has been a Croom recruit, including this year. Every Mullen starting lineup has been dominated with Croom recruits.
Mullen finally had a good recruiting class this year, but it was his first at MSU. I hope he does well when Croom's recruits are out of the program. The schedule is now a cupcake - Croom would have made a bowl in 2008, even with those devastating player losses, with this schedule rather than an OOC top 10 team like he faced every year. He would probably still be the coach today with Greg Byrne's and Scott Stricklin's schedule.
The moaning about Croom not leaving enough players on the OL, but no praise for the talent that he left Mullen? Where have Mullen's stud freshman and sophomores been? Why have so few of hisplayers been starting in front of Croom's recuits yet in 3 years?
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I'll just highlight the outright lies/mistakes tonight...
 
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DerHntr

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that when a fan expects the team to lose that the fan is now not going to try very hard. And trying hard while having a positive outlook on the game can have a major impact on the results. He thinks these fans not expecting to win is typical old school MSU mentality and the fans hurt our chances of winning by not trying, the fans... not trying. Did I mention this is the fans we are talking about. The fans. Brilliant.
 
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CadaverDawg said:
You are so full of ****. Tebow was like a damn son to Mullen , from Tebow himself in interviews. I doubt that any parents would dislike a guy that takes care of their son while he's at college (except Sandusky). Plus, if the Tebow's are as big of Christians as everyone claims they are......then they wouldn't judge somebody or secretly dislike them for ANY reason. Not going to get too religious in this thread, but God doesn't say, "love your neighbor....unless they're not Christian". Quit spewing bull **** opinions and portraying them as fact. If you really want to help our program, stop posting garbage like that and giving **** to people to use as ammo against our coach and program. That is all, I just get tired of the "not a Christian" horse ****.
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came to Florida DESPITE Mullen? Mullen became more religious because of Tebow. That's when they got closer. Get your whiny *** off of your shoulders.
 
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have fun. Why are you all so sensitive about the Mullen religion deal? AT any rate, I'm out. You can all enjoy Genes page here.
 
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CadaverDawg

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According to you, Tebow's parents, who are devout Christians, don't like a man that their son led closer to God and that took care of your son while in college? Keep going, you're making yourself look brilliant
 
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