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Did you all see the meltdown today by her? She looked a step slow in the highlights and like she was going through some kind of emotional issues like depression or something.
 

Ron Mehico

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Thought it was embarrassing for Serena, she acted like a spoiled child. At one point went on a rant when she was CRYING that a man would never be treated that way. [eyeroll] Saw a bunch of articles defending her and blaming the ref, which were equally ridiculous. The poor girl who won was crying and apologizing, just completely ridiculous in every way.
 

homeytheclown

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Thought it was embarrassing for Serena, she acted like a spoiled child. At one point went on a rant when she was CRYING that a man would never be treated that way. [eyeroll] Saw a bunch of articles defending her and blaming the ref, which were equally ridiculous. The poor girl who won was crying and apologizing, just completely ridiculous in every way.
Serena is a total embarrassment to herself and women’s tennis. She is like LeBron James huge ego nothing is her fault
 

mgrody

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What you're conveniently ignoring is that Serena committed three infractions, each with an increasing penalty. The hammer fell on her third penalty when she couldn't control her mouth. McInroe was always smart enough to quit after the first or second penalty.
 
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She got a bit emotional, but can you name a top athlete that doesn't? Especially on the biggest stage?

How do you all feel when the white men tell the official **** you and to shut the **** up repeatedly in a match? How about when John McEnroe played?.. Asking for a friend.

McEnroe was an ******* up to the point he couldn’t be. Serena had two code violations and didn’t stop. McEnroe made the same mistake once in the Australian Open and was hit with a code violation resulting in him forcefully defaulting the entire match.

Same official with Serena gave a code violation to Djocovik for looking at him wrong. So he is consistent. You may not like it but race nor gender had anything to do with it. The official never accused her, it was her coach. BTW the coach confirmed he was coaching.

Serena pushed too far. It is laughable she is yelling at him to apologize and the tells him to not talk to her.
 
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TheGrafSpottsss

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What you're conveniently ignoring is that Serena committed three infractions, each with an increasing penalty. The hammer fell on her third penalty when she couldn't control her mouth. McInroe was always smart enough to quit after the first or second penalty.
That's the issue you seem to be ignoring. Only the racquet should have been an actual penalty. The coaching was an action her coach made which wasn't even physically possible for her to see where she was from. So what advantage did she receive? The same ref has seen the same action in several men's matches this tournament and others and did nothing. The opposing coach in this match, who was Serena's former hitting partner was doing the same thing and no penalty for them. Both show a bias.

The 3rd, being when she told the official he essentially cost or stole a point from her. That hardly is excessive or comes close to warranting a game penalty. Men say far far worse and get no warnings. Certainly not a penalty. Why do you think so many athletes are coming out in defense of her.

Granted, I agree she should have left it alone after the 1st one and just said she wasn't a cheater and moved on, but what she did warranted no game penalty. That was horrible by the official and completely ruined the match.

Hell, she threatened to physically shove a ball down an officials throat a few years ago and didn't get penalized a game.

You must not remember McEnroe too well. He would go on the whole match cursing, arguing and degrading the officials.
 

homeytheclown

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That's the issue you seem to be ignoring. Only the racquet should have been an actual penalty. The coaching was an action her coach made which wasn't even physically possible for her to see where she was from. So what advantage did she receive? The same ref has seen the same action in several men's matches this tournament and others and did nothing. The opposing coach in this match, who was Serena's former hitting partner was doing the same thing and no penalty for them. Both show a bias.

The 3rd, being when she told the official he essentially cost or stole a point from her. That hardly is excessive or comes close to warranting a game penalty. Men say far far worse and get no warnings. Certainly not a penalty. Why do you think so many athletes are coming out in defense of her.

Granted, I agree she should have left it alone after the 1st one and just said she wasn't a cheater and moved on, but what she did warranted no game penalty. That was horrible by the official and completely ruined the match.

Hell, she threatened to physically shove a ball down an officials throat a few years ago and didn't get penalized a game.

You must not remember McEnroe too well. He would go on the whole match cursing, arguing and degrading the officials.
When was McEnroes latest tirade that’s like libs saying Mcveigh is an example of white supremacy today
 
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Ron Mehico

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She got a bit emotional, but can you name a top athlete that doesn't? Especially on the biggest stage?

How do you all feel when the white men tell the official **** you and to shut the **** up repeatedly in a match? How about when John McEnroe played?.. Asking for a friend.


She lost in straight sets and acted like a child. I don’t remember McEnroe crying like a ten year old and saying “You wouldn’t penalize Bjorn Borg like this!” Plus she made the poor innocent young Japanese girl cry and took away a historic win. How do you feel about the older American that’s already won countless numbers of matches taking away from the poor immigrant girl who was in a foreign place?
 

KendallCat

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That's the issue you seem to be ignoring. Only the racquet should have been an actual penalty. The coaching was an action her coach made which wasn't even physically possible for her to see where she was from. So what advantage did she receive? The same ref has seen the same action in several men's matches this tournament and others and did nothing. The opposing coach in this match, who was Serena's former hitting partner was doing the same thing and no penalty for them. Both show a bias.

The 3rd, being when she told the official he essentially cost or stole a point from her. That hardly is excessive or comes close to warranting a game penalty. Men say far far worse and get no warnings. Certainly not a penalty. Why do you think so many athletes are coming out in defense of her.

Granted, I agree she should have left it alone after the 1st one and just said she wasn't a cheater and moved on, but what she did warranted no game penalty. That was horrible by the official and completely ruined the match.

Hell, she threatened to physically shove a ball down an officials throat a few years ago and didn't get penalized a game.

You must not remember McEnroe too well. He would go on the whole match cursing, arguing and degrading the officials.

Saying the coach cheated but she could not see him is like a guy corking a bat but should not be fined or suspended because he never made contact and struck out. The fact is they cheated because they broke the rules of the game - one does not have to benefit or gain because they suck at cheating just the fact they broke the rules which the coach admitted to doing. Game - set - match Mr Williams. [eyeroll]
 

TheGrafSpottsss

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She lost in straight sets and acted like a child. I don’t remember McEnroe crying like a ten year old and saying “You wouldn’t penalize Bjorn Borg like this!” Plus she made the poor innocent young Japanese girl cry and took away a historic win. How do you feel about the older American that’s already won countless numbers of matches taking away from the poor immigrant girl who was in a foreign place?
How did she take away from her. She commended her beautifully and told the crowd now was not the time to boo or take away from Naomi's accomplishment. Who do you think helped pave the way for girls like Naomi? You might want to check all the times Naomi has called Serena her idol. That girl wouldn't have had a half full stadium or anybody knowing who the hell she was if not for Serena being across the net.

Poor? Without Serena that girl wouldn't be getting a fat payday equal to her male counterparts.

No McEnroe had full on meltdowns match after match and berated officials over and over and barely received a slap on the wrist majority of the time.

I feel good that she brought notice to the double standard that exist in sports among sexes.
 

wildcatdon

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Serena is a total embarrassment to herself and women’s tennis. She is like LeBron James huge ego nothing is her fault
Good points. she is a total POS. Everything is about her. And now she keeps using the baby card when she complains. She acts like she is the only woman who has had a child and is working..Give me a break. She can stop any time she wants and be with her kid and know she is set for life..She is such a spoiled *****. And in the final ceremony she tries to act all goody goody by saying don't boo and congratulate Naomi etc..Wants to make it look like she is the good person here. What a joke and the fans there that rooted for her should be ashamed. She was a total disgrace and has no class. Oh, and I wonder what that Robin Roberts person from GMA will say tomorrow on her pathetic show.. She is another racist black woman. So glad Naomi won. Williams needs to be suspended for her actions.
 
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That's the issue you seem to be ignoring. Only the racquet should have been an actual penalty. The coaching was an action her coach made which wasn't even physically possible for her to see where she was from. So what advantage did she receive? The same ref has seen the same action in several men's matches this tournament and others and did nothing. The opposing coach in this match, who was Serena's former hitting partner was doing the same thing and no penalty for them. Both show a bias.

The 3rd, being when she told the official he essentially cost or stole a point from her. That hardly is excessive or comes close to warranting a game penalty. Men say far far worse and get no warnings. Certainly not a penalty. Why do you think so many athletes are coming out in defense of her.

Granted, I agree she should have left it alone after the 1st one and just said she wasn't a cheater and moved on, but what she did warranted no game penalty. That was horrible by the official and completely ruined the match.

Hell, she threatened to physically shove a ball down an officials throat a few years ago and didn't get penalized a game.

You must not remember McEnroe too well. He would go on the whole match cursing, arguing and degrading the officials.

Using McEnroe, who was forcibly defaulted out of a Grand Slam for a code violation, is like saying Ronnie Lott used to destroy people coming over the middle so that hit today shouldn’t be a penalty. Times change.

Same official penalized Djocovik (spelling?) for looking at him wrong.

How do you state as a fact that Serena couldn’t see her coach when she immediately said while on the court that her coach was “giving her a thumbs up”? She clearly saw him. If she had not slammed her racket and destroyed it, the violation would not have cost her a game.

And other athletes saying something to defend Serena is like Dick Vitale defending Roy Williams.
 

Phil_The_Music2

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She got a bit emotional, but can you name a top athlete that doesn't? Especially on the biggest stage?

How do you all feel when the white men tell the official **** you and to shut the **** up repeatedly in a match? How about when John McEnroe played?.. Asking for a friend.
Playing the race card has lost its luster you dolt. Unless one is a Patriots fan, everyone hates Tom Brady and he's pretty dang white. Serena was classless and it had nothing to do with her being black. Grow up.
 

TheGrafSpottsss

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Saying the coach cheated but she could not see him is like a guy corking a bat but should not be fined or suspended because he never made contact and struck out. The fact is they cheated because they broke the rules of the game - one does not have to benefit or gain because they suck at cheating just the fact they broke the rules which the coach admitted to doing. Game - set - match Mr Williams. [eyeroll]
No, that would be like a players coach corking the bat and the player having no clue about it.

If her coach spit on the ref, should Serena be punished? How about if another person in the crowd moved there hands to suggest she go to the net? Should Serena get punished? If she had no control over it or clue it was happening, why punish her? Also, do you agree with the rule and if so, how do you feel about the opposing coach getting away with it and the same official not penalizing the male players he has seen it happen with this same tournament?
 

Ron Mehico

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This is called acting like a child, she’s 36 years old and should be embarrassed to act like this, she also was losing and was going to lose and the penalty didn’t even matter. I do t give a **** about McEnroe and have no clue what he has to do with anything but he’s a childish loser as well and an embarrassment if he did this ****.

It won’t let me embed the damn video, here’s the link





Here’s the award ceremony pic, congrats to the winner [eyeroll]

 

mgrody

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She just got fined 17Gs for her innocent and understandable actions. (Agree it's a drop in the bucket for her). So, apparently some in the sport's governing body agree with the ref that she did a few things wrong.
 

TortElvisII

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Playing the race card has lost its luster you dolt. Unless one is a Patriots fan, everyone hates Tom Brady and he's pretty dang white. Serena was classless and it had nothing to do with her being black. Grow up.

Only problem Serena got is Mighty Whitey.

Free James Brown
 
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No, that would be like a players coach corking the bat and the player having no clue about it.

If her coach spit on the ref, should Serena be punished? How about if another person in the crowd moved there hands to suggest she go to the net? Should Serena get punished? If she had no control over it or clue it was happening, why punish her? Also, do you agree with the rule and if so, how do you feel about the opposing coach getting away with it and the same official not penalizing the male players he has seen it happen with this same tournament?
Can you validate how you know he has SEEN other coaches and chose to ignore it? So when Cal acts up on the sidelines and gets a tech by your logic the free throws awarded should not count to the game score?
 

TheGrafSpottsss

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Using McEnroe, who was forcibly defaulted out of a Grand Slam for a code violation, is like saying Ronnie Lott used to destroy people coming over the middle so that hit today shouldn’t be a penalty. Times change.

Same official penalized Djocovik (spelling?) for looking at him wrong.

How do you state as a fact that Serena couldn’t see her coach when she immediately said while on the court that her coach was “giving her a thumbs up”? She clearly saw him. If she had not slammed her racket and destroyed it, the violation would not have cost her a game.

And other athletes saying something to defend Serena is like Dick Vitale defending Roy Williams.
Well let's utilize the actual facts shall we?

McEnroe was given a warning for staring down a lines judge on a change over and continually bouncing his ball on his racket while doing so to insinuate he was thinking of hitting it at them. He slammed his racquet on the ground once and then did it again a few minutes later actually breaking it. Again, only given 1 warning. Then he berated the official, linesman and event supervisor in an expletive laced tirade for an extended period of time. His punishment was excessive, but he was given more 3 warning for 4 violations and cussed out and essentially threatened officials.

That would be pretty indicative that she couldn't see him too well. Why did Pam Shriver who has been to more US opens than you or I say she couldn't?

False. Dickie V truly believes Roy Williams, mostly because he's nuts and void of evidence or fact. Not unlike many of you. However, are you insinuating all athletes are crazy or just lie their true feelings to support other athletes?
 

TheGrafSpottsss

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Can you validate how you know he has SEEN other coaches and chose to ignore it? So when Cal acts up on the sidelines and gets a tech by your logic the free throws awarded should not count to the game score?
I'm arguing the tech probably was not warranted in the first place. Do you like when official interject themselves into the outcome for ridiculous reasons? Are you saying you support Higgins?
 

Bill Cosby

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So Serena said she saw the coach giving her the thumbs up. The coach admits he was coaching her with hand signals.

Yet the Graf wants us to take the word of someone else, which directly contradicts what Serena and the coach said. Got it.
 
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Well let's utilize the actual facts shall we?

McEnroe was given a warning for staring down a lines judge on a change over and continually bouncing his ball on his racket while doing so to insinuate he was thinking of hitting it at them. He slammed his racquet on the ground once and then did it again a few minutes later actually breaking it. Again, only given 1 warning. Then he berated the official, linesman and event supervisor in an expletive laced tirade for an extended period of time. His punishment was excessive, but he was given more 3 warning for 4 violations and cussed out and essentially threatened officials.

That would be pretty indicative that she couldn't see him too well. Why did Pam Shriver who has been to more US opens than you or I say she couldn't?

False. Dickie V truly believes Roy Williams, mostly because he's nuts and void of evidence or fact. Not unlike many of you. However, are you insinuating all athletes are crazy or just lie their true feelings to support other athletes?
You state opinion as facts. You have accused the official of sexism/racism despite Serena acknowledging she saw him give a thumbs up.

You want to see a problem beyond a tennis player being childish and a sensitive official who hands out violations quickly to men, women and all races.
 

KendallCat

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No, that would be like a players coach corking the bat and the player having no clue about it.

If her coach spit on the ref, should Serena be punished? How about if another person in the crowd moved there hands to suggest she go to the net? Should Serena get punished? If she had no control over it or clue it was happening, why punish her? Also, do you agree with the rule and if so, how do you feel about the opposing coach getting away with it and the same official not penalizing the male players he has seen it happen with this same tournament?

She is responsible for her coach since it is no different than if Coach Cal gets a tech he represents the team even though he is not on the court and the team suffers. Same exact situation. Not to mention the coach admitted to giving her signals and coaching her, and why would he give her hand signals and “Coach” her if she had no idea what they meant. You are reaching here. If another person does it they are not her coach so it is not a violation - hence why there are people called “coaches” and others are called “fans”.

It is not my job to agree with the rule and I don’t GAF about a bunch of uppity people dressed up complaining about the heat all tournament playing Ping Pong standing on a giant table. Why would I care if the male players do it and don’t get caught - she cheated, she got caught, she lied, she made an *** out of herself, she cried sexism despite the fact she was playing another female. How about don’t be fat and a whiner who got crushed for the world to see and who has had a history of violations on the court. BTW - men had 20 violations at the Open versus 8 for the women. Hardly a great example.
 

TheGrafSpotted

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This is called acting like a child, she’s 36 years old and should be embarrassed to act like this, she also was losing and was going to lose and the penalty didn’t even matter. I do t give a **** about McEnroe and have no clue what he has to do with anything but he’s a childish loser as well and an embarrassment if he did this ****.

It won’t let me embed the damn video, here’s the link





Here’s the award ceremony pic, congrats to the winner [eyeroll]

What was the score when the penalty happened again?

I know you don't. It doesn't support "the" narrative.

How about posting the whole award ceremony video? Or is that because it does not fit the narrative either?

Is TheGraf fuzz? Same style of completely missing points, making completely unsupported statements as if they're fact, and at least 3 to 4 questions per post that completely miss the point.
Lol, like what? You love these blanket statements that provide no support.
So Serena said she saw the coach giving her the thumbs up. The coach admits he was coaching her with hand signals.

Yet the Graf wants us to take the word of someone else, which directly contradicts what Serena and the coach said. Got it.
What contradicts what they say. Try to articulate your meaning.

I admitted he gave a hand signal and stated she was not in view to actually see what he was doing. This is confirmed by her statement, his statement and Pam Shriver. Why would one of the greatest players need to be told how to play? Why would one of the greatest net players in history need to be told to go to the net? Think about that for a second. Now look up how many times she played at net in her previous match and you think she needs to be told this or suddenly learned it from a hand gesture?

You state opinion as facts. You have accused the official of sexism/racism despite Serena acknowledging she saw him give a thumbs up.

You want to see a problem beyond a tennis player being childish and a sensitive official who hands out violations quickly to men, women and all races.


You saying thumbs up are an illegal advantage now?

So you admit he was being sensitive and handed out a violation too quick, but you don't see an issue with this?
 
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What was the score when the penalty happened again?

I know you don't. It doesn't support "the" narrative.

How about posting the whole award ceremony video? Or is that because it does not fit the narrative either?


Lol, like what? You love these blanket statements that provide no support.

What contradicts what they say. Try to articulate your meaning.

I admitted he gave a hand signal and stated she was not in view to actually see what he was doing. This is confirmed by her statement, his statement and Pam Shriver. Why would one of the greatest players need to be told how to play? Why would one of the greatest net players in history need to be told to go to the net? Think about that for a second. Now look up how many times she played at net in her previous match and you think she needs to be told this or suddenly learned it from a hand gesture?




You saying thumbs up are an illegal advantage now?

So you admit he was being sensitive and handed out a violation too quick, but you don't see an issue with this?
Dude you are dense. She lied. It was not a thumbs up. Watch the video. You wrote she didn’t see it. Those were her words to cover up. You are clearly lacking comprehension and just looking for a problem. You may be one of the dumbest people I have ever interacted with.
 

TheGrafSpotted

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She is responsible for her coach since it is no different than if Coach Cal gets a tech he represents the team even though he is not on the court and the team suffers. Same exact situation. Not to mention the coach admitted to giving her signals and coaching her, and why would he give her hand signals and “Coach” her if she had no idea what they meant. You are reaching here. If another person does it they are not her coach so it is not a violation - hence why there are people called “coaches” and others are called “fans”.

It is not my job to agree with the rule and I don’t GAF about a bunch of uppity people dressed up complaining about the heat all tournament playing Ping Pong standing on a giant table. Why would I care if the male players do it and don’t get caught - she cheated, she got caught, she lied, she made an *** out of herself, she cried sexism despite the fact she was playing another female. How about don’t be fat and a whiner who got crushed for the world to see and who has had a history of violations on the court. BTW - men had 20 violations at the Open versus 8 for the women. Hardly a great example.
But the players don't get kicked out or reprimanded, Cal does. The opposing team also isn't aware free games. They have to go to a free throw line and make them.

So you are saying they could just plant someone else in the crowd to give hand signals? Wouldn't this still be coaching? And when did coaching become cheating? What other sports don't allow coaching, particularly hand gestures and urging?

How did she cheat again? By getting a thumbs up?

The official was female?

Why wouldn't you care of that is the whole argument. Serena is saying men do it and no one cares. You are in agreement then?
How many lost points?
 

Bill Cosby

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What contradicts what they say. Try to articulate your meaning.

I admitted he gave a hand signal and stated she was not in view to actually see what he was doing. This is confirmed by her statement, his statement and Pam Shriver. Why would one of the greatest players need to be told how to play? Why would one of the greatest net players in history need to be told to go to the net? Think about that for a second. Now look up how many times she played at net in her previous match and you think she needs to be told this or suddenly learned it from a hand gesture?

LOL

This might be the dumbest **** I've ever seen posted on Catpaw. Good work.
 

TheGrafSpotted

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Dude you are dense. She lied. It was not a thumbs up. Watch the video. You wrote she didn’t see it. Those were her words to cover up. You are clearly lacking comprehension and just looking for a problem. You may be one of the dumbest people I have ever interacted with.
Coming from you, I will take that as a huge compliment.

So no evidence to support your agenda driven argument yet?