Seriously Coach34 is your stat true.. And if so get off your *** young alumni..

Koldfire

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I just think most people are not in the Bulldog Club if they don't have football tickets. So it one Bulldog Club member represents 4 season tickets (which I think is probably a safe bet), then we are roughly at capacity. 8,500 members x 4 = 34,000 season tickets. Isn't that about what we can do? Not sure how many tickets students account for plus guest tickets. Either way, if we open up say 3,000 more tickets for football, then I guarantee Bulldog Club membership will go up in a short period of time.

Now the question becomes, how do you sell people on paying to be in the Bulldog Club when they get no tangible benefits from it like access to season tickets. They sure aren't doing it for the sticker that last about 8 months outside.

Maybe enough seats to get us to a sustainable BDC membership of 9500-9700.
 

Koldfire

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The stadium has a seating capacity of around 55,000. I am not sure of the actual number of seats available to the general public. But let's say that that number is 48,000. This number is derived from the stadium capacity, minus student and other University held seats. Let's say that there are 2,000 corporate accounts and large "single BDC member" groups holding an average of 10 seats each. That's 20,000 seats allocated to 2,000 BDC members. Last year we ended up with about 9,000 BDC members by the time of seat allocation. This brings the total "general" seats available to 7,000 (9000-2000) BDC members down to 28,000. Assuming that these 7,000 BDC members purchase, on average, four seats, we have reached capacity.

Since there is a waiting list for seats, one must assume that the above seat distribution matrix is understated. Either the 2,000 big accounts are holding more than 20,000 seats or the other members are averaging more than 4 seats. As you can see, there is no attraction for potential BDC members if acquiring seats at Davis Wade is the motivation. Additional seats from the stadium renovation will help this situation some. However, the corporate accounts will probably increase the 10 seats to one member margin, in that a big portion of the new seats are designed to attract corporate members.

So to see significant increase in BDC members more "general seating" must be made available. The problem is that MSU relies on a big giver model vs. a mass giving model. That's why 9,000 BDC members creates a waiting list at Davis Wade. We will experience a modest bump in BDC membership and giving in anticipation of the stadium upgrade, only to see it fall back to the 9000 mark because of limited "general" seating capacity. *Disclaimers: 1. The numbers used are for demonstration purposes and are not stated as actual (I think they are reasonable). 2. Seats at Davis Wade should not be the only motivation for giving to MSU. However, I must disclose that it was my motivation.

After more research , in our 2011 sell out we sold 43,518 season tickets (seats), which INCLUDES 11,000 sold to students. This leaves only 32,518 available to BDC members. If large accounts (those with individual BDC members holding 8 or more seats) come in at 1,000, that means roughly 8,000 seats held by 1,000 BDC members. That leaves 24,514 seats for the remaining 7,000 BDC members or 3.5 seats per member. The AD Dept. reported that there we still more than 600 BDC members on a waiting list. Its reported that the expansion will add 4,516 additional grandstand seats. If the 600 on the waiting list gets and average of 3.5 seats, that leaves 2,416 seats for potential BDC members. Using the 3.5 seats per member average, the increased capacity will generate 690 new BDC members. The 1800 "club-type" seats could generate another 200-250 BDC members.
 
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I agree with half of what coach said: the students and alumni could do more to create a better recruiting atmosphere. I take issue with trying to turn Starkville into Oxford--which I interpreted as more of a "party town." No question it would be nice to upgrade some of the nightspots, more (non-chain) restaurants, etc; but to turn it into a wannabe Oxford, which is a wannabe center of French Quarter debauchery, does not appeal to me.
 

RocketDawg

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I've never gotten a call for athletic donations (I guess they know I'm maxed out), but I get calls once or twice a year from Engineering ... had one last week, in fact. And I get frequent mail from the MSU Foundation. Got one of those today.
 

RocketDawg

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I got my season ticket renewal in the mail yesterday. I only get two club level seats, and they said I couldn't order any more tickets because they're sold out. I'm "qualified" to buy more than 2 ... maybe 8? ... but I don't need that many and cannot get anymore without getting on the waiting list.

I used to get basketball season tickets but don't any more. I didn't get to go to many games, so I figured it was best to let someone else have them rather than have empty seats at most of the games.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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I don't know what the university qualifications for associations are, but if you studied at a school, you are, by definition, an alumnus.
 

paindonthurt_

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I'm not sure what you are saying.

How would we make more revenue in your scenario?

If I'm the guy buying the tickets for the group:

Scenario A: 2 tickets would cost $280 each. Plus $425 donation per ticket (section 4 formerly know as D). Thats $1,410 total.

Scenario B: 12 tickets would cost $280 each. Plus $425 donation per ticket. Thats $8,460 total.

Thats $705 of revenue per ticket no matter how you slice it.