Sherando Warriors (12-1) vs Phoebus Phantoms (12-0)

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1MoreHokie

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Now I need to know your top 15 football states. I can guess 8 or so but I'm curious about the others.

I tier them. Presented without order:

T1 is obviously Cali, Texas, Florida, and now Georgia.

T2 is NC, SC, Ohio, Indiana, Louisiana, Alabama and then I think there's some states like Tennessee and Arizona that flirt with this level.

T3 is Virginia, Maryland, Arkansas, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Mississippi, Utah, Michigan, maybe one or two more I can't remember.

So you're talking 20-23 states or so. T3 is the most volatile of the states that are above-average or better at football. I think Virginia is way down this year, I think 15 is probably too high on second thought but I haven't really sat down and looked at the entirety of the rest of T3 to see how they're doing either. Sometimes Virginia can be the very best of T3.

Mind you, Virginia has the talent of a T2 state almost every year. There's talent crawling out of the wood in these programs but Virginia schools simply do not challenge themselves on the national stage so they will continue to bump their head on that glass ceiling of respect when it comes to how everyone views them. There are plenty of schools in T2 at least who are a reasonable distance away and with very few exceptions Virginia outright refuses to schedule them and even more rare is scheduling the cream of the crop in those states when the scheduling actually does happen.
 
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ThevinStealberg

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I tier them. Presented without order:

T1 is obviously Cali, Texas, Florida, and now Georgia.

T2 is NC, SC, Ohio, Indiana, Louisiana, Alabama and then I think there's some states like Tennessee and Arizona that flirt with this level.

T3 is Virginia, Maryland, Arkansas, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Mississippi, Utah, Michigan, maybe one or two more I can't remember.

So you're talking 20-23 states or so. T3 is the most volatile of the states that are above-average or better at football. I think Virginia is way down this year, I think 15 is probably too high on second thought but I haven't really sat down and looked at the entirety of the rest of T3 to see how they're doing either. Sometimes Virginia can be the very best of T3.

Mind you, Virginia has the talent of a T2 state almost every year. There's talent crawling out of the wood in these programs but Virginia schools simply do not challenge themselves on the national stage so they will continue to bump their head on that glass ceiling of respect when it comes to how everyone views them. There are plenty of schools in T2 at least who are a reasonable distance away and with very few exceptions Virginia outright refuses to schedule them and even more rare is scheduling the cream of the crop in those states when the scheduling actually does happen.
I appreciate you spelling this out. We're aligned on most. There are a couple surprises for me. I will do my tiers over the next couple days and do a separate post. Thanks again!!
 
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The powerhouse football programs in the WCAC (the Capital Conference) are in DC and MD, and honestly I would bet commute distances/times factor into the decision process for most NOVA kids from Fairfax and Loudon counties on whether they attend the MD privates.
They do have kids in the NFL. One year Gonzaga mashed Centreville when they were class 6 runner-ups. Having seen their teams up close, our best teams can compete with them.
 

VAtuffTurf

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I grew up in Virginia and have lived in Texas a handful of years. I hate to say it but VA not close to tier 1, maybe low 2.

Look up some head coach salaries for Westlake or Lake Travis. Also those coaches don’t need to work for the school to coach.
 

ThevinStealberg

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I grew up in Virginia and have lived in Texas a handful of years. I hate to say it but VA not close to tier 1, maybe low 2.

Look up some head coach salaries for Westlake or Lake Travis. Also those coaches don’t need to work for the school to coach.
Who said they were tier 1 or 2?
 

VAtuffTurf

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Which is why I chose not to go the rankings/polls route. I'm using the eyeball test with 99% bias removed. Based off of places I've and watched a good amount of football, this is my public school football rankings.

1) Ohio
2) North Carolina
3) Missouri
4) VA
5) MD
6) Pop Warner anywhere in the USA
7) New Jersey
I assumed putting VA number 4 here that they would be tier 1 or 2. Would love for them one day to be, just think it has little bit to go.