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patdog

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Luke Kromenhauk to the portal. Who could have seen this coming? I’ll always remember his 1 pass as a Bulldog. Wounded duck.
 
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pump you up hans and franz GIF
 
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Seinfeld

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I wouldn’t say it was questionable. He showed at FSU that he was a viable QB and you had Shapen coming back after being injured with questions about durability and your only other option at QB was a true freshman. He was insurance.
With an NIL budget significantly more limited than most of our peers, we spent a sizable chunk on a QB that didn’t play rather than investing in our lines. That’s the part that was questionable
 

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I’m going to put this out there because nobody buys a a rumor quite like the sixpackers…. Was Luke expensive? Yes but every portal QB is expensive it’s the way of the market. However this running rumor he got 7 figure s to ride the pine is very very inaccurate.
Another rumor that I would like to address in here is the limited NIL we have. Thanks to some very generous donors our NIL isn’t lacking and we will be very agressive in the portal. It’s not a coincidence we went from 40th ranked HS class to 27th and rising.
I would be willing to bet those on here who think we are behind with NIL don’t donate…. We are no longer Po OL MSU
 
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With an NIL budget significantly more limited than most of our peers, we spent a sizable chunk on a QB that didn’t play rather than investing in our lines. That’s the part that was questionable
We have no idea how much he was getting paid.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If Shapen goes down early in the season this place would be falling all over themselves to criticize Lebby for not having a back up QB.
 

BulldogBlitz

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It’s not a coincidence we went from 40th ranked HS class to 27th and rising.

I believe this is that realignment that is happening. The game of recruitment is changing. The bigger schools can shop established players at msu and the likes, not wasting roster space on a high schooler who has only unproven potential
.I would be willing to bet those on here who think we are behind with NIL don’t donate

Based on the certainty of the rest of your post, you can probably dox all these folks now. Yes?
 

patdog

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I wouldn’t say it was questionable. He showed at FSU that he was a viable QB and you had Shapen coming back after being injured with questions about durability and your only other option at QB was a true freshman. He was insurance.
There’s fine if you’ve got unlimited resources. But we can’t afford to tie up that much money in 2 backups at the QB position. We could have gotten 2 or 3 linemen who could have really helped us for what we wasted on him.
 

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We have no idea how much he was getting paid.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If Shapen goes down early in the season this place would be falling all over themselves to criticize Lebby for not having a back up QB.
Absolutely a hindsight is 20/20. I'd like to say I would have been able to appreciate the decision had he taken that money and gotten another OL or DL, but that's with the benefit of knowing KT would have at least been serviceable, even early on, just because of his athleticism. But we very likely don't beat ASU if Shapen goes down, and we probalby would have been crucifying him for rolling into the season with no backup other than a true freshman, even if KT was playing ok. But man, if we could have gotten a serviceable OL with what we paid Kromenahcughtouers (which I don't know that we would have), that could have really changed our season.
 

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We have no idea how much he was getting paid.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. If Shapen goes down early in the season this place would be falling all over themselves to criticize Lebby for not having a back up QB.
Maybe not, but we know that both sides of our lines were unmitigated train wrecks, and an FSU QB that’s one year removed from being a 5* recruit didn’t come to Starkville for a coupon to Harvey’s

Signing K-hawk was a Lebby gamble that didn’t pay off amongst numerous gambles that haven’t paid off, so forgive me if I’m not going to cut him a ton of slack on this one. He’s paid 4.5M to get these things right
 

johnson86-1

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There’s fine if you’ve got unlimited resources. But we can’t afford to tie up that much money in 2 backups at the QB position. We could have gotten 2 or 3 linemen who could have really helped us for what we wasted on him.
If we could have gotten 2 or 3 lineman for that price, then absolutely it was a terrible decision. But could we really do that? Did Kromanthchasouxjc have that much hype that he commanded a lot of money? I thought we basically pulled him because he saw we had a QB with a history of injuries and nobody to compete with except for a true freshman.
 

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Another rumor that I would like to address in here is the limited NIL we have. Thanks to some very generous donors our NIL isn’t lacking and we will be very agressive in the portal. It’s not a coincidence we went from 40th ranked HS class to 27th and rising.
I would be willing to bet those on here who think we are behind with NIL don’t donate…. We are no longer Po OL MSU
I appreciate your optimism, I really do, but weren’t you the one that was also pumping up our 18th ranked portal class this past Spring while assuring us that we were about to see a much improved O line?

Our recruiting rankings are a sheer numbers game right now thanks to the volume of low end 3* kids we’re willing to take, and I’m struggling to find ten kids from the 34 incoming transfers that Lebby took this year that contributed much of anything.

Our progress in the NIL department is fantastic, but it’s all relative compared to our peers, and I guess I’ll believe that we’re about to tear it up in the portal when I see it.
 

Bulldawg77

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I appreciate your optimism, I really do, but weren’t you the one that was also pumping up our 18th ranked portal class this past Spring while assuring us that we were about to see a much improved O line?

Our recruiting rankings are a sheer numbers game right now thanks to the volume of low end 3* kids we’re willing to take, and I’m struggling to find ten kids from the 34 incoming transfers that Lebby took this year that contributed much of anything.

Our progress in the NIL department is fantastic, but it’s all relative compared to our peers, and I guess I’ll believe that we’re about to tear it up in the portal when I see it.
I was and had it not been for injuries I think we probably win 2 more games( lost Steen really in last half of camp but injury occurred in USM game, Reese missing games as well) Would you not agree?
What was your prediction pre season 4-8,2-10? I’m definitely not happy with 5-7 but if I remember correctly most would have been happy with 5-7 pre season
We have fired Hutz we are improving staff and have a good War chest to attack the portal. I get it most fans just can’t forgive Lebby and staff for 2-10 and Toledo in 24 (side note Dillingham lost 29-0 at home to Fresno state in 23 so **** can happen year one) But if you look at it from the point of view while we didn’t accomplish greatness we were improved and found a way to be competitive against Tenn and Texas, (Still think that FG was good at FL). Now as luck would have it we are about to play in a bowl game and give some of our younger talent more practice opportunities.
My caveat is this
Should we stand here in 11 months or less and see a back sliding of the program well there is no doubt a change will happen.
 
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Bulldawg77

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Lebby cost us more losses than injuries did.
What was your predictions? What are you doing to help the cause? Are you a BC/SEF member
Mullen cost us games against LSU Houston and others but he gets a pass?
Some of you all are just anti Lebby not matter what. And the same anti lebbys would be anti coach whomever. This negativity disease that runs through this fan base is sickening. The refusal to buy into NIl and this program yet continue to complain is just sad
 
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What was your predictions? What are you doing to help the cause? Are you a BC/SEF member
Mullen cost us games against LSU Houston and others but he gets a pass?
Some of you all are just anti Lebby not matter what. And the same anti lebbys would be anti coach whomever. This negativity disease that runs through this fan base is sickening. The refusal to buy into NIl and this program yet continue to complain is just sad
Are you disputing what I said, that Lebby cost us more games than injuries? I can't see your answer mixed in with all of the stuff about my predictions, Bulldog Club, Mullen, negativity yada yada yada which has nothing to do with my statement.
 

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Are you disputing what I said, that Lebby cost us more games than injuries? I can't see your answer mixed in with all of the stuff about my predictions, Bulldog Club, Mullen, negativity yada yada yada which has nothing to do with my statement.
I can see reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.
I pointed out Mulien gets a pass for his ineptitude but Lebby doesn’t.
I think Lebby has some blame yes but injuries had some blame as well.
But you are one of the ring leaders of negativity on this board so I’m not surprised by the response
 

The Peeper

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I can see reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.
I pointed out Mulien gets a pass for his ineptitude but Lebby doesn’t.
I think Lebby has some blame yes but injuries had some blame as well.
But you are one of the ring leaders of negativity on this board so I’m not surprised by the response

Since I'm so negative, you tell me what have you seen in the previous 2 seasons conference games that is positive? I have only seen 1 conference win in the last 2 entire seasons and that was against the last place team in the conference this year that had already fired their coach when we beat them. Go back and watch the final play that we scored on in that game too and try and convince me that if they hadn't missed not one but 2 tackles inside the 10 yd line, we wouldn't have won that one either.

Tell me the positives about our 1-15 record during that time period, please?
 

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Since I'm so negative, you tell me what have you seen in the previous 2 seasons conference games that is positive? I have only seen 1 conference win in the last 2 entire seasons and that was against the last place team in the conference this year that had already fired their coach when we beat them. Go back and watch the final play that we scored on in that game too and try and convince me that if they hadn't missed not one but 2 tackles inside the 10 yd line, we wouldn't have won that one either.

Tell me the positives about our 1-15 record during that time period, please?
Let me start by saying 1-15 sucks. I acknowledge this. I can also say you, Vegas and 80% of the posters on this board thought 3!wins was the max we would win in 25. We won 5, and should have won 8.
As bad as the OL was were still able to score this year, we were able to go toe to toe with Tenn and Texas taking them to OT. We were on paper at a decisive talent difference in these games yet had every opportunity to win both games. I don’t believe in moral victories but you can’t deny the improvements in those games. Also, our best DL was out those games as well in Whitson. The FL game sucked. I still say that FG was good and should have been reviewed but the amateur hour NCAA rules don’t allow that.
We beat a top 15 team at home in AzSt. A huge win in year two n matter how you defend the win, we found a way to win the game. We broke the SEC slide. Yea it was against a bad ARK team but the ARK team still had one of the best offenses in the conference. We found a way to win. We made the plays to win All this after coming off a horrendous 2024 year when we had arguably the worst roster in P4.
We closed the gap in the portal last cycle and will close it even more with this portal class coming up thanks to some very generous alumni and donors. We finished strong in the HS and JuCo class this year.
We have a ton of young talent like Taylor Fluff Jones and Lockhart. We are in a bowl game! Yeah we backed into it but these extra practices will only help the young guys and the development of the OL and DL heading into spring and next year
Totally reworking the staff especially on the defensive side of the ball. Adding more staff for recruiting scouting and coaching. Additional funding to the football program overall
And I’m not even talking about the facilities like IPf and Seal renovations