Shooters??
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Right now, we know Chandler and Williams are shooters, Johnson shot well at OTE. Lewis isn't a bad shooter. Dioubate and Oweh can hit. Noah if he's playing can hit. I imagine Pope's looking to add another.
This current team shot the ball well but lacked athleticism and toughness. I'd be willing to give up some shooting for a tougher more athletic team.
Wow it amazes me that some of you can't be happy for 2 seconds without fear, doubt and second guessing setting in.
Ummm Lowe will be improved, Williams/chandler/JJ will be knock down shooters who will also be better at creating their own shot than Brea.
And Noah/Perry
And Noah/Perry
How do we feel about his 36.4 3PT% on the road? It could be a possible sign toward regression since it's not consistent with his overall average.
Kam Williams shot 48.5% FG w 41.2% 3pt this season. I expect Chandler to improve w more playing time and Perry and Noah will be good shooters off the bench.
I get the concerned but over the last two years how many of those great shooters were absolute crap on defense prob giving up as many as they scored.
Look at each final four team. There has to be more balance here. And I guess pope is banking more on his ability to coach offense than defense. So recruit the defensive guys and worry about the offense later
Look at each final four team. There has to be more balance here. And I guess pope is banking more on his ability to coach offense than defense. So recruit the defensive guys and worry about the offense later
I think many agree that having one more shooter would be good. However, there are some already on the roster...
I think for 2025-2026:
Legit threats (35% or above): Lowe, Garrison (low volume), Oweh (>35% last season), Noah, Jasper Johnson
Good (over 40%) : Chandler (I think he will be over 40%), Kam Williams, Dioubate (low volume but was 46% in 2024-2025), FR Acaden Lewis, Perry
So... not sure there is a Brea at 50%, but I think there will be numerous legit threats, but as of NOW, only Quaintance and Moreno aren't reasonable, fairly consistent threats from 3pt range (and even they are capable of knocking down one on occasion).
I think for 2025-2026:
Legit threats (35% or above): Lowe, Garrison (low volume), Oweh (>35% last season), Noah, Jasper Johnson
Good (over 40%) : Chandler (I think he will be over 40%), Kam Williams, Dioubate (low volume but was 46% in 2024-2025), FR Acaden Lewis, Perry
So... not sure there is a Brea at 50%, but I think there will be numerous legit threats, but as of NOW, only Quaintance and Moreno aren't reasonable, fairly consistent threats from 3pt range (and even they are capable of knocking down one on occasion).
Of the players I expect to get the majority of the minutes:
Kam Williams
Jasper
Lewis
Chandler
Are all guys you don't want to leave open if you're the other team.
Oweh, Garrison, Lowe, and Dioubate should be able to hit their fair share, as well.
Moreno and JQ wont shoot many. Noah and Perry I don't expect to get a ton of PT but we know they can both shoot.
Get Yates and we have plenty of guys who are going to be able to stroke it consistently.
Kam Williams
Jasper
Lewis
Chandler
Are all guys you don't want to leave open if you're the other team.
Oweh, Garrison, Lowe, and Dioubate should be able to hit their fair share, as well.
Moreno and JQ wont shoot many. Noah and Perry I don't expect to get a ton of PT but we know they can both shoot.
Get Yates and we have plenty of guys who are going to be able to stroke it consistently.
Kam Williams shoots 41%
Noah shot 33%, but he's much better than that. Perry has a better shot than what he showed, too, but don't see him playing much next year.
Lowe shot 35% his freshman year and in the 20s when he was tasked with doing too much and hunting shots. That's not conjecture on my part – I've heard that from a few sources including from his previous school. He was also one of maybe two good/great players on that Pitt team. His % will improve this year substantially, I suspect.
Oweh shoots 35% and that'll improve by next season since he definitely knows his shot is the weakest part of his game.
Chandler shot 35% for the season coming off a two year hiatus. He shot 62.5% in the tourney and 47% in the final two regular season games + SECT games when he started to "get" it. That's better than 50% from three in the final seven games of the season. That's not a fluke. He's going to be on fire next year. He learned from Brea, after all.
Garrison was working on his 3pt shot last year. He only shot 30%, but he didn't shoot it at all at OkSt. Not bad for one year of practice.
I'm sure the staff will increase Dioubate's 3pt numbers. He only shot like 26 or so last year and hit 40+%. Get him more volume and he could do something there with enough reps.
If we get Alvaro, he shoots like 43%.
The UNC guard, Pierre, or Yates would all be good to great shooters, too.
Johnson probably shoots in the mid-upper 30s.
Lewis hasn't shown great range, but he could come along.
We will have shooters, but we won't rely on shooters. The problem I had with Cal was that we relied on athletes and we were vulnerable because of our shooting. Last year's team relied on shooters and were vulnerable because they didn't have athletes.
This team looks to have a lethal mix of both.
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We have shooters on the team already from this past year and from the new guys. Some people don't realize that systems significantly impact shooting %. When you aren't running a system to get quality looks, you don't shoot as well.
Chandler and Noah are more than capable shooters. Garrison is serviceable. Some of the new guys can shoot and will probably shoot better here in this system.
Chandler and Noah are more than capable shooters. Garrison is serviceable. Some of the new guys can shoot and will probably shoot better here in this system.
Now do every other player on the planet shooting home vs away
Why would I need to? We're talking about one guy. Are we going to be playing a lot of games in Tulane's arena next season because that is where he appears to be most comfortable shooting 3 if you are only looking at the numbers.
Yes, need a well-rounded balance to have the best shot. Need some shooters, need some athletes.
You are a terrible troll. He shoots 5% lower on the road than his average. Do us all a favor and try to do better. I enjoy a good troll attempt but this is not that
It's not a trolling attempt. It's an objective look at the deeper split numbers. Those numbers do matter.
I think there is a role for Williams, but I'm seeing some potential overhype and I don't really understand it.
He is a 6’8 sophomore who shot 41% from 3. I think there’s a lot to be excited about especially if you think he can improve between seasons.
Cool! It's a small sample size of one season. What did he shoot from 3 in high school? There are literally no scouting reports about this ELITE shooting prowess, which is odd, no?
33% and 32%, respectively, so hopefully we won't be relying on them.
They won’t be freshman next season. They also will have a specific role, especially Travis, and that is to make jumpers. So, I expect those percentages to go up.
You know that feeling you get when a car is drifting into your lane? Or one looks to be turning left across yor lane right in front of you? That's how some of these people feel all the time.
We had lots of great shooters last year. The thing is, with as many shooters as we had we still had nights where no one could hit consistently. And if that happened and they shut down Oweh, we had no other way to win. Seems like Pope is going for a more balanced approach for next year. That seems like the smart move to me.
I haven’t seen anyone claiming him to be an elite shooter. But he did shoot well above average and like I said he is 6’8 with three years of eligibility remaining.
Do better
Getting more athletic, and adding lowe/JJ along with oweh all guys who can penetrate and kick will give us much better looks. Brea was good but his 3% dropped in SEC play due to not getting many open looks! The 4 spot needs to up the percentage and that'll help as much as anything!
I remember watching Tony Delk in the derby classic in Louisville and he went something like 2 for 9 in that game. I thought, man, they said he was a shooter, it sure didn't look like it that game, but we all know you can't judge somebody in one game and an all star game on top of that. We all know how good he turned out to be, I imagine all of our good shooters will shoot better from year to year, not many come to Kentucky and tear it up their freshman year. The pressure here affects shooters maybe more so because of the expectations coming in, you can ask any of the former players and they will tell you that.
It's basically the implication when you keep harping on what his percentage was last season. For reference, Steph Curry's career 3PT% is 42.3% (41.2% in college). Klay Thompson's is 41.1% (39.0% in college). Reggie Miller's is 39.5%. Kyle Korver's is 42.9% (45.3%).
This is the elite range. Is he elite at 41% or is he not?
Agree. Shooting is worthless if your shooters aren’t athletic enough to get open for a 3 and if your opponent takes away the three, you have to be able to finish at the rim.
Last season, getting our shooters open looks was a major issue in conference play.
He finished 35% for the year but started only 4/24 when he was shaking off the rust of 2 years away from basketball. He then shot 13/25 over the last 10 games, showing very good form and great range. I don't expect 50% sustained over a season at volume, but I do expect an improvement on the 35% average.
I'm not convinced he will shoot as well as last year. But no, I don't think his road % means anything. If you break it down enough ways, you can always find a difference to point at. And there's no logic behind a road % means XYZ.
Actually 34%, but who's counting. He shot horribly from deep during the season (27.8%), but did get hot during the tournament.
Hopefully he can gain some consistency and improve his shooting next year. I see Chandler as more of a slasher, but that doesn't mean he can't/won't be a threat shooting.