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NCukcat62

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Since I appreciate your comments concerning game of thrones, I'll give you a chance to answer the question instead of posting a pointless gif.
 

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Since I appreciate your comments concerning game of thrones, I'll give you a chance to answer the question instead of posting a pointless gif.
It's not pointless. The guy should learn to ask better questions instead of presenting fallacious invalid arguments. Like the guy before me said, the answer doesn't exist.
 

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It's not pointless. The guy should learn to ask better questions instead of presenting fallacious invalid arguments. Like the guy before me said, the answer doesn't exist.
Left winged bigots have something out for gun owners. With that, theydefend Muslims every chance they get. There is an answer and the left wing are a bunch of god damn idiots!!!
 
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Amazing how bad some people want this to be a 2nd Amd issue and not a radical Islam issue....I mean, can't we take the guy at his word when he called 911 and said "I pledge allegiance to ISIS"? That not enough?

The problem with this crime is radical Islam, period point blank.

Nope, sorry too easy! No way those goat lovers would ever make it that easy. They are so far ahead of their time there is just no way it's actually that easy!
 
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The time between a crazy gunman killing innocent people and said crazy gunman being filled with lead needs to be greatly reduced. Allowing him to be alive for over 3 hours after the first shots pisses me off.

Throw negotiating out the door once people have died. Treat it like war.
 

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Apparently his wife knew he was planning it and tried to talk him out of it.

The 'moderate side' of Islam in action, folks. #notallmuslims commit terror acts, but when they know ones who do, they side with them over informing law enforcement.
 

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I believe the point is there are crazy white people doing (this guy) and saying(Arizona preacher, Georgia and Texas politicians) stupid crazy stuff that inspire other crazy white people to do and say stupid stuff as well
No doubt but, they are not doing it in the name of religion plus, of late the majority have had Islamic backgrounds in this country.
 

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This meme is the biggest misconception still in existence.
Reich-era Germany was a pursuit for an ethnically homogeneous Germany, which was mainly striven for through deportation, not mass-murder, as is always purported.

You know what I meant, they killed over 8 million people simply for being sub human in the eyes of the Nazi party.
 
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Bill Derington

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I wasn't talking about Mateen, I was talking about the article in the previous post about the guy from Indiana that was picked up in LA with guns in his car on the way to the pride parade

Again, that was wildly misreported, he never said he was going there to harm anyone.
 

Bill Derington

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I thought they said he admitted that that was his plan? His boyfriend was on the news last night and said he wasn't surprised.

What I read last night was that the news reporter originally on the story misunderstood or misreported what the cops had said.
 

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You know what I meant, they killed over 8 million people simply for being sub human in the eyes of the Nazi party.
No, that's not really accurate at all logistically. Those statistics (which have continued to balloon since the 50's) were largely based on Soviet propaganda which grossly overestimated death counts at concentration camps, especially those located in Poland.
Not arguing the point you made, I was just nitpicking for accuracy.
 
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What I read last night was that the news reporter originally on the story misunderstood or misreported what the cops had said.

The police spokeswomen had to correct herself. Original reporting of him there to do harm was incorrect, he was there to attend or so he said. He could've been there to blow up any homophobic protesters for all we know.
 

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Since @DaBossIsBack said I had an invalid argument I'll use his logic against him. When I prove my point and per the usual liberal logic he will post another meme and call me dumb. If we apply their logic to other things one drunk driver does represent all drivers and therefore all cars, SUVs, and trucks can be considered an assault weapon and should be banned. Where does it end? It doesn't end until we are completely unarmed and depended upon the government. Cause after all they know best for us. We are simpletons and cannot make decisions for ourselves.
 

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No, that's not really accurate at all logistically. Those statistics (which have continued to balloon since the 50's) were largely based on Soviet propaganda which grossly overestimated death counts at concentration camps, especially those located in Poland.
Not arguing the point you made, I was just nitpicking for accuracy.

I was including Slavs as well as Jews in the number, but you're probably right about the numbers being inflated.
 

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Since @DaBossIsBack said I had an invalid argument I'll use his logic against him. When I prove my point and per the usual liberal logic he will post another meme and call me dumb. If we apply their logic to other things one drunk driver does represent all drivers and therefore all cars, SUVs, and trucks can be considered an assault weapon and should be banned. Where does it end? It doesn't end until we are completely unarmed and depended upon the government. Cause after all they know best for us. We are simpletons and cannot make decisions for ourselves.
Hahahaha just learn logical fallacies. I'm not one that wants to take your guns away from you. Own as many as you want. I don't care. Your just a simp and your original question was dumb. Get better.
 

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Mateen did not use an AR-15. It was a Sig Sauer MCX carbine that shares no major (important) parts with the AR-15 spec. Lowers are different, bolt is different, barrel connection is different... Law enforcement said it was an 'AR-15-type weapon' and the glory hound news networks just filled in the blanks for us dumb Americans.

Carry on.
 

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Mateen did not use an AR-15. It was a Sig Sauer MCX carbine that shares no major (important) parts with the AR-15 spec. Lowers are different, bolt is different, barrel connection is different... Law enforcement said it was an 'AR-15-type weapon' and the glory hound news networks just filled in the blanks for us dumb Americans.

Carry on.

Yea the specs on the platforms are totally different.

But they don't care about details. Does it go bang? Ban.
 
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Hahahaha just learn logical fallacies. I'm not one that wants to take your guns away from you. Own as many as you want. I don't care. Your just a simp and your original question was dumb. Get better.

Please tell me how to get better. I used your logic and applied it to other situations. It's exactly as you want it. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Please tell me how I'm wrong. It's the same logic liberals use to say cops are corrupt and can't be trusted but in the next breath you tell us only cops need assault weapons. Which is it? You can't have both. (This is where you tell me I'm stupid.) Sorry I busted your bubble. Maybe you can find another cute meme.

The long and short of it is until the president decides to take Isis and radical Islam as a serious threat (which he won't ) we will face the possibility of a threat every day. Quit getting on TV and scolding us like we're children. Quit blaming the gun. Blame the people pulling the trigger. These terrorists are savages and we must treat them as such. Just how many innocent people must die before he takes the fight to them and destroys them? He won't cause he doesn't want to offend anyone. That's way more important than our safety.
 
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Please tell me how to get better. I used your logic and applied it to other situations. It's exactly as you want it. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Please tell me how I'm wrong. It's the same logic liberals use to say cops are corrupt and can't be trusted but in the next breath you tell us only cops need assault weapons. Which is it? You can't have both. (This is where you tell me I'm stupid.) Sorry I busted your bubble. Maybe you can find another cute meme.

The long and short of it is until the president decides to take Isis and radical Islam as a serious threat (which he won't ) we will face the possibility of a threat every day. Quit getting on TV and scolding us like we're children. Quit blaming the gun. Blame the people pulling the trigger. These terrorists are savages and we must treat them as such. Just how many innocent people must die before he takes the fight to them and destroys them? He won't cause he doesn't want to offend anyone. That's way more important than our safety.
My meme and subsequent comments were about your original question. Again learn logical fallacies, there are many, and how they work. Didn't burst my bubble bub. You presented your argument poorly. Don't take offense. Just get better. I understand what you're trying to say. Its just another over simplification in a nuanced discussion and doesn't work or help.
 

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Please tell me how to get better. I used your logic and applied it to other situations. It's exactly as you want it. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Please tell me how I'm wrong. It's the same logic liberals use to say cops are corrupt and can't be trusted but in the next breath you tell us only cops need assault weapons. Which is it? You can't have both. (This is where you tell me I'm stupid.) Sorry I busted your bubble. Maybe you can find another cute meme.

The long and short of it is until the president decides to take Isis and radical Islam as a serious threat (which he won't ) we will face the possibility of a threat every day. Quit getting on TV and scolding us like we're children. Quit blaming the gun. Blame the people pulling the trigger. These terrorists are savages and we must treat them as such. Just how many innocent people must die before he takes the fight to them and destroys them? He won't cause he doesn't want to offend anyone. That's way more important than our safety.
Yes!
 

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If we keep on the same path our country will be no more. We can either do something about it besides jumping down the throats of gun supporters and owners. Quit demonizing that particular group and go after the real savages.
Yeah because, if try to come after most Americans that owns guns, radical Islam will not be the only war they will be fighting.
 
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If we keep on the same path our country will be no more. We can either do something about it besides jumping down the throats of gun supporters and owners. Quit demonizing that particular group and go after the real savages.
We need to listen. Really listen. Every side of the situation. Stop demonizing period. Both sides have become so polarizing that nothing is getting accomplished.
 

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Riots and protests erupt at the euro cup after a cop and his girlfriend were murdered in front of their son by none other than a Muslim!!!
 
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