Should Cliff go to NBA article
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Confirmed what many of us have seen, that he needs another year to develop to increase his prospects. I'd love to see him return.
He has the body and the athleticism. But he has to find a way to score besides dunks. Any type of post game, post moves, will shoot him up the rankings. More so than shooting jumpers and threes. That was a waste of time last off-season it was worth what maybe 5 threes this year? instead he should be working on putting the ball through the hoop from 5 feet away/his hook shot
Nothing shocking. If he gains 7 more pounds of muscle and continues to improve his shooting and post moves, Cliff should have a great college season next year.
Not sure how seriously to take the article. It calls Edey a likely 1st round pick. That’s uhhhh…not accurate
As I've been saying.
Basically everyone knows the draft prospects for players well before the draft.
The whole "declare and get an evaluation" is just a show.
They aren't being told anything that isn't readily available all over the internet already.
Basically everyone knows the draft prospects for players well before the draft.
The whole "declare and get an evaluation" is just a show.
They aren't being told anything that isn't readily available all over the internet already.
We all can see it...I'm sure he feels it too. He's a smart guy. It's been said ad nauseum, it would be to his interest perhaps to declare without an agent and get the eval...that way he has all the input on what he needs to do...trust me he already knows...any player at this level does
Exactly and it only focused on the NBA instead of the G league.
If anything it was a piss poor article just to get something out there because the writer monitors this board and had watched the debates here all season.
Hands … he needs to work on his hands … that includes ball handling and both catching and making passes. He has the athleticism, defensive skills, and will improve shooting. It’s the hands!
Exactly. Cliff leaving would be to get him in the G league to be developed
I'd love for him to stay. But if I'm his advisor I tell him to go pro if he can get a G-League contract and make basketball his fulltime job in service to the goal of scoring NBA riches. Whatever improvement would happen here, 2X that much will happen if he goes pro because he'll be playing 2X more basketball.
Not in his case. With a stand out college season next year there’d still be hope for him elevating himself to late first round status. He has the athleticism that hold back many good college bigs. That’d be big money, plus with us playing oversees this summer there’s probably a channel for earning potential for him via RU.
In the G-league, you don’t just have to improve a ton to see pay day. You then have to also prove yourself in the NBA. Still way easier to lock in a guarantee through the draft with success in college. RHJ just had an insane triple double. Consistent performances like that will earn him a few games on a roster to prove himself (maybe). Cliff sounds like the prototype example of a kid who should test the waters but return to school.
G League is not an automatic thing. You don’t just say hey can I play? Those guys are low draft picks mostly or guys reviving a career. Cliffs not there. This isn’t a “training” league like many of you think.
Well yea, but the thought is his physical tools alone will get him there. I believe that to be true.
Yup - I hope he stays, but if playing in the NBA is his #1 goal, it's unlikely either way, but the sooner he gets to the G-League the better for him.
It's beating a dead horse at this point but I don't understand why so many think he'll improve his chances of playing in the NBA more with another year at Rutgers than he would in the G-League.
Worst case - Cliff comes back to Rutgers, with certain promises made to get him to come back, and he shoots more 3's gets more post touches and doesn't improve enough in either of those to help the team and while his PPG number improves, he actually helps the team less than in previous seasons.
Anyone know what his NIL payout is?
If he transferred to Iowa for one year his offensive #s would jump a bunch.
Fran specializes in creating all big ten/all Americans and getting those stars drafted like Wieskamp Garza and Murray bros.
How bout a trade?
Starting PG Ulis and young center Mulvey for Clifford?
Kidding.
If he transferred to Iowa for one year his offensive #s would jump a bunch.
Fran specializes in creating all big ten/all Americans and getting those stars drafted like Wieskamp Garza and Murray bros.
How bout a trade?
Starting PG Ulis and young center Mulvey for Clifford?
Kidding.
I'm sure some more knowledgeable people will chime in here, but I believe his NIL status is an issue because he's on a visa?
Thought I read on here somewhere that he can't earn NIL in the US.
Can someone please confirm?
Because of his visa status, he is not eligible to receive NIL money personally. He reportedly donated his $25,000 NIL stipend to the salvation army in Newark,
He can only earn NIL outside of the US, like on the planned road trip this summer.
Staying at RU will make him a better college player, but it won't prepare him for the NBA.
I just went to my first NBA game in a long time and Cliff can play in that league. It is always hard to know for sure until he goes up against them but just his D and rebounding alone will land him somewhere.
I think he loves it here and hopefully that is enough for him to stay. In the meantime it gives the former soccer player another year to work on his Offense. He can do that here or in the G league. I hope it is here.
I think he loves it here and hopefully that is enough for him to stay. In the meantime it gives the former soccer player another year to work on his Offense. He can do that here or in the G league. I hope it is here.
I think the summer plans for an overseas tour is where he’ll get his big bag of cash finally. Focus on offense the entire summer and be back.
And even if you do well in the G-league you don’t get a guaranteed contract. For that to happen you then have to actually produce in the NBA. The only way to get the locked in contract is through the draft. Still a much higher probability of having a banner senior year in college and getting picked up in the draft.
Along with the post offense I think a handle could go a long way to improving his game. Everyone says that he is the fastest player on the court but it’s not shown off because he doesn’t handle the ball in space. He could totally be a weapon for us in transition/beating other slower bigs to get to the rim.
I just don't see it with Cliff, and while his improvement here at Rutgers has been real, it has been only marginally significant. How many of those sort of sky hooks from the baseline must he have practiced over the past few years. Still he has zero touch on them, frequently missing badly and probably hitting on something like 10%. If he can't dunk he is a poor finisher around the rim. Defensively, I think he is above average but far from elite. Just about everyone else seems to have a higher assessment of Cliff, so I acknowledge that maybe I'm just being too tough on the kid.
what we all can't see and what some can't appreciate is his potential need to support his family asap. He should do what he has too and not to satisfy fans .
I think he can do so much with one hand that it hurts him. So many times I see a loss of the ball around him where if he had 2 hands on it.. it would have helped.. a lot. Rebounds, catching a pass.. throwing a pass... some challenged jams (2 hands would have meant an imminent foul call rather than assuming a clean block was made).
You're not being to tough. I don't even think his defense is above average. Can rebound, and block shots, but his post defense is almost non-existent.