Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda but we should be 6-1...
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Yep. I'm more disappointed that we've found ways to lose games we should have won.
At least last year I could check out after the Toledo game and just shrug my shoulders. This year the Tenn and Florida games have hurt a lot more because we were RIGHT THERE with opportunities in both.
So yeah we're much improved across the board but we haven't gotten over the hump. I'm hoping we can pick up a win against Arkansas and maybe sneak another one from someone else.
At least last year I could check out after the Toledo game and just shrug my shoulders. This year the Tenn and Florida games have hurt a lot more because we were RIGHT THERE with opportunities in both.
So yeah we're much improved across the board but we haven't gotten over the hump. I'm hoping we can pick up a win against Arkansas and maybe sneak another one from someone else.
We will win this weekend. I'm more confident that we beat Texas than Arkansas.
Be realistic the god/devil that the Mannings pray to has granted Arch his wish for this weekend.
Shoulda woulda coulda been 3-4 too. We have the record we deserve.
Turns out....Lebby is not a great play-caller.
You get what you pay for. Lebby makes the 15th-best salary in a 16-team league.
We are paying for on-the-job-training.
You get what you pay for. Lebby makes the 15th-best salary in a 16-team league.
We are paying for on-the-job-training.
I thought Lebby called a good game Saturday. Shapen just didn't execute. We had three would be TD's that Shapen missed on.
We are really paying for not getting a better qb in the portal. I'm concerned that Lebby couldn't convince any of his previous qbs to follow him. I know money and bigger better programs talk. But Auburn right now is no better than we are. Not that Arnold would be winning more games either
I'll grant you that, partially.
The decision at the end, obviously, devastating.
But the 4 straight QB runs. And faking the jet sweep instead of handing it off. Twice, the sweep guy would have gotten the 1st down.
And when KT comes in....the entire stadium knows he's running it
The entire stadium knew KT was running it on our first drive too. But that's what having a mobile QB can do for you who is also a ***** to tackle. He broke a tackle and got the corner and scored.
My biggest questions mark was the 4th down play call with Shapen. I am not that upset about throwing the ball with 30 seconds left. The result sucked *** but gaining 10-15 yards is huge for a game winning FG.
We are WAY better than last year, that is absolutely obvious. That doesn't mean we are good though. Last year was terrible.
I think the 3rd and 4th down plays at midfield were reads and both QB’s made the wrong read. Sweep guy definitely gets a first down on both plays and probably gets a TD on 3rd down.
Arnold is freaking terrible. He’s worse than Shapen. He can run but he literally cannot throw the ball more than five yards down the field with any accuracy.
We are absolutely improved and heading the correct direction. However, we have not yet been able to overcome Emstate tendencies and don't have enough talent at QB and in the trenches.
Hopefully, QBs and linemen now believe Lebby can put them in a position to score some points and we upgrade in talent for next year. Defense is looking much better as well. Pass rush is the next step there.
We aren't far off but good lord is it frustrating to watch the process.
Hopefully, QBs and linemen now believe Lebby can put them in a position to score some points and we upgrade in talent for next year. Defense is looking much better as well. Pass rush is the next step there.
We aren't far off but good lord is it frustrating to watch the process.
Yeah which bugs me also is if lebby can actually evaluate a qb or does he go off scouts? I miss Mullen and leach for those very reasons. Kiffin does it well but we really need someone that can evaluate a qb and get the most out of them.
I don't think we'll beat either one of them. But I'd love to be wrong.
Sure we could have, but we didn’t. Often the margin between winning and losing in the SEC is thin - perhaps just a few plays, and that’s all the difference between 4-5 wins and your 8 win season. That was never going to happen with this roster and schedule.
In that case, at least as fans we'd feel better about Lebby having put the team in position to win the game.
Since we haven't seen Kromenhoek at all, does that mean we "missed on" him too?
Eventually the dam will have to break and we will win a game . At some point someone is gonna screw up more than us . At some point
I believe Texas at home is our most realistic shot . They can not score points . If we lose to them I will be floored
I believe Texas at home is our most realistic shot . They can not score points . If we lose to them I will be floored
I don’t like dealing in “shoulda” because it ignores all the plays the other team “shoulda” made.
We could be 6-1. Could also be 3-4.
I think we are objectively not as good as Tennessee and A&M so losing those games is easier to grasp.
I think we are maybe less good than Arizona State and better than a Napier coached Florida, or at worst very comparable to both, so ultimately splitting those two games, I get it.
We could be 6-1. Could also be 3-4.
I think we are objectively not as good as Tennessee and A&M so losing those games is easier to grasp.
I think we are maybe less good than Arizona State and better than a Napier coached Florida, or at worst very comparable to both, so ultimately splitting those two games, I get it.
Everybody is dogging Shapen about his bad throws and he did make some bad throws. Is part of it, he knows he doesn't have much time and has to rush his throws which causes more overthrows from not having more time to gauge the receiver's path and speed. But we also missed a fg and fumbled in or close to the redzone after a long drive too.
We COULD be 6-1, but I dont see how it can be honestly argued that we SHOULD be 6-1.
I truly wish I had that level of optimism in life.
I truly wish I had that level of optimism in life.
Objectively we are not as good as Tenn or TAMU. And that's a fact. But we had a great chance to upset Tenn at home. And we SHOULD have.
We are as good as UF and our coach is better. And while UF definitely had chances to put us away and didn't, we had several chances to get and stay ahead of them. Shapen needed to have a much better game - he recognized that fact. He SHOULD have.
Lebby called a great play at the end - we had two receivers open. Ron Roberts called a better play and Shapen didn't see the DT drop back into coverage.
He SHOULD have.
And, yes, if we'd have been so lucky as to connect on the pass or not had it intercepted, we might have missed the field goal or had it blocked.
You hope Lebby can keep the team believing and determined to execute better down the stretch. I still think we can sneak one against Texas or OM and hopefully beat Ark.
But losing more often than not begats more losing.
We are as good as UF and our coach is better. And while UF definitely had chances to put us away and didn't, we had several chances to get and stay ahead of them. Shapen needed to have a much better game - he recognized that fact. He SHOULD have.
Lebby called a great play at the end - we had two receivers open. Ron Roberts called a better play and Shapen didn't see the DT drop back into coverage.
He SHOULD have.
And, yes, if we'd have been so lucky as to connect on the pass or not had it intercepted, we might have missed the field goal or had it blocked.
You hope Lebby can keep the team believing and determined to execute better down the stretch. I still think we can sneak one against Texas or OM and hopefully beat Ark.
But losing more often than not begats more losing.
Yeah. Both times that should have gone to the receiver going backside. It was wide open, like you say especially on 3rd down. Not sure if KT missed the read or if they’ve simplified it so much for him it was a keeper all the way or not.
Like I mentioned, people only see our side of the game and ignore anything that happens with the other team.
Florida’s postgame win expectancy on Saturday was 77%. Which tells me for all the “we shoulda won easily”, had we won it would’ve been a steal by us, based on the statistics of how the game played out.
It would have been an absolute steal. If UF had even an average QB this is a blowout. If Sunbelt Billy doesn’t butcher a 3& 1 play call, UF runs the clock out easily. That said, at the end we should have won the game. No excuse to lose it.
But if his dad is a problem like some are saying, then they wanting KT to be a hero. And he’s not going to come in and hand the damn ball off regardless of how open the play was.
We don’t have the interior OL to be running a big QB up the middle when EVERYBODY knows it is coming. But expecting a guy with limited touches to give the ball up in this me me me era is a foolish concept as well.