Shutup the sexton talk...NO RAISE

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fishwater99

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Either that or Meo did not want to move and would miss going to the Hump and pissing people off that sit around her.
Maybe Clemson said that his kids could not be on the bench during games.
This is baffling.
 

Coach34

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did he get a contract extention? Because if he did, that's a raise...we have to pay him that money now even if he is fired
 

ScoobaDawg

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Coach34 said:
did he get a contract extention? Because if he did, that's a raise...we have to pay him that money now even if he is fired
You're stretching it.
He is going to get bumped back to the 4 year max though Bryne just said.
 

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RT @bradlocke: "It wasn't about money; it wasn't about money at Mississippi State. I'm coming back not expecting no raise. "
 

Coach34

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he gets another 1.1 million guaranteed from us now no matter what...how is that "not exactly"?
 

ScoobaDawg

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graddawg

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That all depends on his buyout, which I doubt requires us to pay him the full contract value. If it did there would be no point in having a buyout clause.
 

ScoobaDawg

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If the buyout with a upped contract is full salary or not...
I know with Croom it was not I believe.
 

8dog

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why would Rick have changed his mind if we effectively gave him nothing (which is what would be happening in your scenario)?
 

War Machine Dawg

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Rick going from 1 year left on his contract to being extended back to the 4-year max is a raise. Even if we fire him, he gets paid more than he would have under the existing deal because there are more years to pay off now. Frankly, I'd a lot rather have given him more money and no extra years.
 

Coach34

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and you can bet his buyout is substantial if he is fired


**edited to add**- we didnt have to buyout **** for him to leave on his own, as he was planning on doing
 

8dog

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but even dawgbreeze and someone else I talked to said he was gone this morning. THIS MORNING.

I know they love Starkville. I hope thats the case, but logic doesn't point in that direction.
 

ScoobaDawg

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and I'll edit my other post to reflect it as such..concerning the buyout being the reason he stayed.

He stayed cause he loves good ole MSU...no matter how much you hate him 34.
 

Coach34

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can you underperform and still get a contract extention guaranteeing you more money???


He'd be a fool to leave
 

graddawg

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Coach34 said:
and you can bet his buyout is substantial if he is fired


**edited to add**- we didnt have to buyout **** for him to leave on his own, as he was planning on doing
I'm sure it is. Byrne beefed up the buyout if he was hired away, which I'm sure led to Sexton demanding a beefed up buyout on the school's end if he was fired. However, I doubt it is "full contract value," especially for the last year.

And I don't need a lesson on contracts from a salesman.
 

00Dawg

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on this board who works on a contract basis and signs extensions has ever referred to that as a raise. Back when I had a job like that, a raise meant I got more money for the same amount of time (i.e., an increased hourly rate). When I got told I had a job for another six months (or whatever), I can't say calling it a raise ever occurred to me.
 

mstateglfr

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00Dawg said:
on this board who works on a contract basis and signs extensions has ever referred to that as a raise. Back when I had a job like that, a raise meant I got more money for the same amount of time (i.e., an increased hourly rate). When I got told I had a job for another six months (or whatever), I can't say calling it a raise ever occurred to me.

Perfectly said, i had thought the same thing.

I am contractually employed, and i dont consider an extension of that contract to be a raise.
Now that buyout of his changes things, and while he may get more due to more years left on the contract, i dont consider that a raise in any way because if he isnt fired, then that pay is never an issue and he works those years for the same $$ as he already was earning.

If a contract extension with buyout for firing is a raise, then why isnt he paid more when he finishes out that contract?

Say it ends in 2015 now. And say he makes $1mil right now(i know that isnt correct). So he could work thru 2015 for $1mil per year. That isnt a raise because he will have made the same per year as he is currently making.
 

RobbieRandolph

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If the buyout was truly the issue, this sucks, as it would seem he wanted to leave, but Clemson wouldn't pay to break the contract and now we're both stuck with one another. (If the buyout was truly the issue he stayed)
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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except for morons trying to win an argument on a message board.

Coach34: Hey, sonny! Want to work for me?

fishwater99: Sure! How much you paying?

Coach34: I'll give you $10 an hour.

fishwater99: That's not enough money.

Coach34: Not enough? Ok, how 'bout we make it $20.

fishwater: That sounds great!

Coach34: Only you have to work 2 hours to get that.

fishwater99: Who cares! It's a @@$#*%* raise! I'm awesome! Now dry hump me some more, corch.
 
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I guarantee when Peaches was coaching baseball when he got a contract for the next year paying him the same money, he didn't run home to his ex bragging about the raise he just got.
 

FQDawg

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I worked on a contract basis in my last job. If I made $5 dollars an hour and got a six-month contract extended to a full year, but I was still making $5 dollars an hour, I didn't consider it a raise since I was still making $5 an hour. If they bumped me to $6 an hour, that's a raise.

And I don't pretend to know the details of Stans' contract, but just because it was extended doesn't mean the buyout has changed. The buyout could be a flat fee regardless of how many years are left as opposed to a price per year or a graduating scale.
 

Coach34

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with one year left on his contract- he is only guaranteed next year's salary and that could be it for him....no more money and suddenly he is out of job with no more money coming in...

Now that his contract has been extended to 4 more years, the amount of money he is guaranteed has been "raised" from what it was at the end of next year
 

FQDawg

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I'd be surprised if its a guaranteed contract in the traditional sense of the word - where he gets the money regardless of what happens. Even with his contract extended, there is no guarantee he'll see that money - a mllion things could happen over the next few years.

Bottom line is he was making about $1.3 million per season, using, for arguments' sake, the high end of what Veazey has reported. He is still going to be making about $1.3 million per season. Most people don't look at that as a raise.

I eagerly await your ridiculous reply because God knows you can't ever let anything go. I challenge you to prove me wrong, though.
 

ckDOG

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4 years of guaranteed money > 1 year of guaranteed money. Who cares if it's called a raise, extension, or whatever? Rick Stansbury is better off financially at the end of 4/12/2010 than he was at the beginning of it.
 

Coach34

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in 2011-2012...his contract was going to be up...and had he not made the NCAA Tourney, there's a chance he would have not gotten any kind of contract renewal...whatever his guarantee is, that is how much of a raise he has gotten...

Put it this way- no contract extention today- and he is fired next April for not making the Tourney- we owe him nothing- now if he is fired next April, he is owed a buyout- that's a raise in guaranteed money...that's security for him...and that's just what he and Sexton wanted
 

dawgstudent

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He didn't get a raise. He got a contract extension.

Remember, coach is the guy that said Beat the spread and still lose is called an <span style="font-style: italic;">upset</span>.
 
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