SI.com : Nebraska sinks to new low following embarrassing blowout loss to Purdue

Gobigredisdead

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Pelini wasn't fired because he didn't win enough. He was fired because he was emotionally unstable. Bo's record and lopsided losses could be the same and if he would have kept an even-keel he would still be here.
It's not like he was punching babies.

Isn't the ultimate goal of a college football coach to win football games? People got ticky-tacky with Pelini, wanted him fired because he wasn't a poster child, and we ended up with Riley as a result.

People got so focused on Pelini's abrasive personality that they supported hiring an old, crappy football coach.

Do we want Nebraska's football team to win, or do we want to win a few of those ridiculous online polls of "Nicest Football Coaches in America?"
 

Harry Caray

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Bo was mentally unstable, but Riley looks emotion-less on the sidelines. I was starting to wonder if he had dressed as a zombie for Halloween. At least show a little bit of passion every once in a while.
 

jflores

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Of course this article is accurate. It's amazing how the unbiased saw the Pelini firing and Riley hiring.

And don't act like this is hindsight, because if Riley somehow managed to win 9 games in a season, that would be an exceptional performance from him.

Its not entirely accurate. Frazier may be one of Riley's most high profile supporters.

Frazier just got done this week talking about "time" and putting more onus on the players to buy in and receive coaching. Using his tweet in the context of the article makes it sound like Frazier is not a fan of the coaches, which is dishonest.

We'll have to see what tone Frazier takes this week.
 

Gobigredisdead

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Its not entirely accurate. Frazier may be one of Riley's most high profile supporters.

Frazier just got done this week talking about "time" and putting more onus on the players to buy in and receive coaching. Using his tweet in the context of the article makes it sound like Frazier is not a fan of the coaches, which is dishonest.

We'll have to see what tone Frazier takes this week.
Frazier's take would make sense if Riley had even a decent record as a head coach.
 

Gobigredisdead

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Yours would make more sense if you had played D1 football at Frazier's level, or had more than 25 posts.

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If that is the case, then go on record and state that you think Riley was a good hire.

And remember to type about 8-9 paragraphs in the process.

Post count has no correlation with logic.

Also, Eichorst didn't play D1 football at Frazier's level, either.
 
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jflores

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If that is the case, then go on record and state that you think Riley was a good hire.

And remember to type about 8-9 paragraphs in the process.

Post count has no correlation with logic.

Also, Eichorst didn't play D1 football at Frazier's level, either.

I was fine with the Riley hire from the beginning. banker and read were my questionable points.

If Riley doesn't end up working out so be it. I'm not of the opinion that he deserves to be here regardless of the results, but I do have the opinion that you cast your lot with a coach and a system and a culture, you should give time to evaluate those things.


Time in the eye of the beholder right? Folks of Fraziers background arguing more, folks of ours generally less
 

Fargo Husker

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Pelini wasn't fired because he didn't win enough. He was fired because he was emotionally unstable. Bo's record and lopsided losses could be the same and if he would have kept an even-keel he would still be here.

This is 100% true. By losing 4 games every year and not winning anything of substance, Bo found himself in a gray area of coaching where things like personality and off-field issues matter and come into play. If he wins 1 or 2 conference championships, he is still here (assuming he doesn't bolt for another job). If he would've had a couple .500 or losing seasons, then he gets fired. But by being just good enough and not bad enough, him being a raving lunatic cost him his job.
 

leodisflowers

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I was fine with the Riley hire from the beginning. banker and read were my questionable points.

If Riley doesn't end up working out so be it. I'm not of the opinion that he deserves to be here regardless of the results, but I do have the opinion that you cast your lot with a coach and a system and a culture, you should give time to evaluate those things.


Time in the eye of the beholder right? Folks of Fraziers background arguing more, folks of ours generally less

I'm still good with the Riley hire. He needs to get rid of Banker, Langs, and Reed. Just terrible.
 

o_h3

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I can deal with the current state not to be embarrassed by a MADMAN on the sideline. Things will get better , it just make take a few years.
 

Harry Caray

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I can deal with the current state not to be embarrassed by a MADMAN on the sideline. Things will get better , it just make take a few years.

Can't get any worse. I can't remember the last time we lost to a team as bad as Purdue. Even Callahan's losses were usually to respectable teams. The 2004 K-State game is probably the only comparable loss.
 

o_h3

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I am sick of all these fans thinking the sky is falling. Pelini made this bed and poor Riley is left with it. Lombardi, Belichick, or Devaney couldnt do better with this cesspool of a roster.
 
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Nobody forced "Poor Riley" to take this job. If he can't beat the likes of Purdue and Illinois without "his guys", then he is not a good coach. We are off to the worst start in school history and we haven't even played a single ranked team yet. The sky fell a long time ago.
 

starbrown

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It's not like he was punching babies.

Isn't the ultimate goal of a college football coach to win football games? People got ticky-tacky with Pelini, wanted him fired because he wasn't a poster child, and we ended up with Riley as a result.

People got so focused on Pelini's abrasive personality that they supported hiring an old, crappy football coach.

Do we want Nebraska's football team to win, or do we want to win a few of those ridiculous online polls of "Nicest Football Coaches in America?"

Don't fall into the Iowa trap where your fan-base cares more about winning etiquette contests than football games. That's a recipe for failure. BTW, KF isn't a saint. Rhabdo, nepotism, his kid living in taxpayer subsidized apartment, athletes in trouble with the law, petulant behavior with the press, OCD focus on his bank account. He's no different than any other A-type personality.
 

regibson1

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Changes need to be made IMHO with regard to position coaches. We have had good to great coaching from Hughes, Bray, and Williams. They have had to deal with a lot of the injuries and depth issues but have been able to adapt and find players to adequately fill those positions.

Riley needs to deal with the other obvious issues and do what needs to be done. He wanted a new challenge at Nebraska and he has one now and needs to address the problems that have to be obvious to him. Doing nothing will seal his fate if we go through another year like this year. I think that he knows that and will make some necessary changes.
 

Bay_Area_Husker

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Its not entirely accurate. Frazier may be one of Riley's most high profile supporters.

Frazier just got done this week talking about "time" and putting more onus on the players to buy in and receive coaching. Using his tweet in the context of the article makes it sound like Frazier is not a fan of the coaches, which is dishonest.

We'll have to see what tone Frazier takes this week.

I loved Tommie as a player, but he was 3-17 as a head coach. Not the best evaluator of coaching, IMO.
 
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Changes need to be made IMHO with regard to position coaches. We have had good to great coaching from Hughes, Bray, and Williams. They have had to deal with a lot of the injuries and depth issues but have been able to adapt and find players to adequately fill those positions.

Riley needs to deal with the other obvious issues and do what needs to be done. He wanted a new challenge at Nebraska and he has one now and needs to address the problems that have to be obvious to him. Doing nothing will seal his fate if we go through another year like this year. I think that he knows that and will make some necessary changes.
The challenge I like to see Riley address is packing and moving for the 2nd time in two years.
 

regibson1

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The challenge I like to see Riley address is packing and moving for the 2nd time in two years.

Riley needs to show that he means business when it comes to straightening things out with this program. It is not all on the players but is also about how they are being utilized and coached on offense and defense. Making some changes with the coaching staff with a year of recruiting his players and going through another off season will give him another chance. If Riley is not willing to make any changes then I agree with you about moving on