There's no love lost relative to Barf and Pelini. If it were only Pelini I think he would have a story on that subject.
SIAP Independent review of AD leadership and culture
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I didn't say he made it up. I said he may have taken editorial liberty by assuming if the head football coach couldn't get in to see SE that others couldn't as well. IF they make the results of the survey public it might be an interesting read. Somehow I doubt that happens. There have to be some people still in the athletic department that feel loyalty to Bo or feel as you do that Tom was unfairly forced out. It would seem that at some point that has to be addressed. Unfortunately the only way that all that bad taste will ever be washed out of their mouths is for Tom to publicly bury the hatchet with SE and I don't think that's going to happen.
ok. For me I believe it was handled poorly on the part of Perlman but that's his half second management style. IMO this whole thing is about Perlman and how he has affected the department.
TO and the Regents subscribe to a plan for succession and Perlman tossed that out the window.
Relative to SW hiring MR he was within his written rights to do it the way he did but anyone other then Perlman would have secured the support of at least a few Regents.
HP had the support of the majority of the Regents or it wouldn't have happened. Tom hand picked Frank as his successor and skirted the AD by announcing it while Byrne was out of town. This time Tom wanted to hand pick his successor for the AD job. No way in hell is that appropriate or an accepted practice. IMO, HP did what he felt he had to do. Tom was trying to set it up to allow Bo to continue as our head coach for a long long time by picking the new AD and that would have been a terrible mistake.
Where did I say Tom was unfairly forced out? And why bring old arguments about Osborne into the equation?
Furthermore, you have some weird ideas. Now TO hates SE and needs to bury the hatchet with him? TO had a hand picked successor that was going to support Bo? Harvey had the regents on his side against Tom? Did you find the most ridiculous things to say to distract from the AD probe?
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That's not how the system works. No matter how much people want it to. Perlman beat Osborne to the punch this time. Too bad.
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It's too late. The backroom promises and announcements under Osborne can't happen since he retired. Too late for that.
What you have had up there is no true leadership since TO retired. Whether it is the chancellor or the BOR or some AD, it's been a group of people all trying to control some element of this thing called Nebraska Football. Arrogance, fragile ego's, poor management styles, it's all been on display.
I would like to see them hire a chancellor that is a true leader. A natural at it. Not someone who read a book on how to be a leader.
If you think that was also a shot at SE. It was. You cannot lead from behind a curtain or via a few well crafted emails. People see through that BS.
It is time we stop teaching people that anyone can be a leader. There is no bigger falsehood in my opinion. You are either born with it, or you are not.
I would like to see them hire a chancellor that is a true leader. A natural at it. Not someone who read a book on how to be a leader.
If you think that was also a shot at SE. It was. You cannot lead from behind a curtain or via a few well crafted emails. People see through that BS.
It is time we stop teaching people that anyone can be a leader. There is no bigger falsehood in my opinion. You are either born with it, or you are not.
Much of your first few sentences can be said about TO during and after his work in the AD. Fragile ego and poor management style especially. Giving an extension to Pelini after zero improvement and further childhood antics has given him a nice check after he was fired. Fragile ego, well TO hasn't exactly been outwardly supportive of Riley since Bo has been fired, at least to the extent he was to the lunatics Bo.
Secondly, there are multiple forms of being a leader. Simply not understanding one form doesn't meant it's ineffective. The BOR needs to focus on finding a Chancellor and let SE do his damn job. Seems like continually spite from a few reps that need to get over the BO saga.
You might be able to make that argument about TO, except when the wheels fell off during the BC era, it was TO who put things back together again. Was Tom a great AD? Maybe, Maybe not, but Tom is a pretty good natural leader and I don't think anyone disputed why he was brought back in to fix the mess created by Steve Pederson & Bill Callahan.
Secondly, I'm not going to get into the 'forms' of being a leader. That's a bunch of crapola right there. Leading is Leading, whether by example or by direction. True leaders are naturals at it.. And maybe that is where you disagree with me, but I don't believe it can be learned in a book or taught. You either have it, or you don't.
Finally, why do you think it has anything to do with the prior football coach? What has SE accomplished in the last two years? Has he been an effective leader? How are the different sports programs actually doing?
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Well maybe they shouldn't have brought him back to fix the program when BC lost it. There is nothing wrong with getting a good leader in there though. It has nothing to do with Tom or Bo anymore. You can't use them as excuses for everything that is wrong or perceived to be wrong today.
I'm not so sure that TO really fixed the program. Rather he kicked the can down the road until it was all dented and weakened. TO's ego didn't allow him to find a proper replacement both times he had the opportunity. It is what it is. Nobody ever said that Tom was perfect, but sometimes you need to step back and view the big picture.
You have on multiple occasions indicated that you thought Tom was forced out. Not going to debate it with you again and yes Tom had a successor picked out and yes a majority of the regents had seen enough of Bo's crap and were fine with him getting canned.
So, I'm liking what HCMR is doing so far with one exception...record. He needs to vastly improve the W-L this year to keep positive momentum.
That said, I think we could use some more leadership from the AD chair/office.
That said, I think we could use some more leadership from the AD chair/office.
I'm willing to admit that Dr. Perlman was in over his head with the Athletic Department, probably since he underestimated how much more difficult micro-managing the Athletic Department was than for instance, the Law College. However, HP had a lot more on his plate than Bo, and I think in many other areas, he provided very good leadership (Innovation Campus, enrollment, endowments, entry into the B1G, etc.) I submit it might be a bit unfair to slam someone's leadership without looking at the whole picture.
I don't have a name. Supposedly he had a list of potential guys with ties to NU. One I believe was an in house guy. I don't think that guy is employed by NU any longer. At the time he was hired there was speculation that he was going to be groomed to take over when Tom retired. Tom ALWAYS valued continuity and control. I would have been okay with that IF he would have canned Bo. Heck I stated several times on here that I was okay with the rest of the staff staying as long as Bo was canned.
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Bingo. Said guy cares so much about NU that he has taken his ball and went home... twice.