R Sidney is absolutely hands down the laziest player I have ever seen play college basketball. I can think of no other player even remotely close. He stands on the defensive end with hands at his sides and when the ball is shot he just turns around and looks up for the ball...not squaring up, not finding his guy or the nearest guy and actually blocking him out. The most amazing part of all this is our coaching staff tolerates it.I do not care what kind of potential Sidney has...if he cannot give effort on both ends he should be benched. Heis wasted talent as far as I am concerned. Turn in your uniform Sidney and allow someone to takea spot on the team who deserves to be there.Sorry, but I am beginning tofeel the same way about the entire coaching staff.
Sick and Very Tired Watching Laziness
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I think part of his laziness is that he has been out of shape and really winded. Is it his fault, yes, but it ultimately comes back to Stans and his staff not having him ready to play. How long has he been in S-Vegas. I think he is night and day from that first game I saw him play vs Belhaven in the Big House... If he continues to make progress into next year, I think you will look like a fool for posting that you want him pn the bench. He is by far the best offensive post player on our team, and one of the best in the SEC.
He's played fewer than 15 college games. He scores and rebounds with the best in our league. So many wanted Sidney off the team at one point; I think that many of those just can't accept having been wrong. Sidney is working hard, and if you can't see that, you just don't know what you're looking at.
Yes he pulls in rebounds. He's a selfish rebounder. If he can't get it, the other team gets it. We would probably have 2-3 more wins if Sidney could block out. He's the main reason we're the worst rebounding team in theconference. When your center doesn't block out, your screwed when it comes to defensive rebounding.drunkernhelldawg said:
You think that many of those just can't accepthaving been wrong?
Those people are still right. He's still out of shape.He falls down more than anyone I've ever seen in college basketball. The other night, he fell on his butt(which this time was probably warranted) thenhe threw it down court, rolled over on his belly, and watched from the ground as we layed it up, rebounded, and put up another shot. Then he got up.That's a perfect example of his effort.Most peopleprobably thought, "wow look he's trying hard." I thought, "wow, I don't knowanother playeron this level that would do that." It's like when he jumped out of bounds and saved a ball the other night. Most peopleprobably thought he washustling, and I'm sure that's how the ignorant coaching staff saw it. What I saw was a lazy fat *** who took the entire play off before that so that he was able to jump out of bounds to save it. When really, we would have already scored if he had been in position.
I have a question for you. How many times have you seen Sidney catch the ball on the block this year? I don't mean how many times has he accepted a pass down low. But how many times was he down low on the actual block, close to the goal? I can't think of a single time. That's his fault and the coaches fault. You think he's doing well? Everything he's done is strictly because of talent. None of it was because of fundamentals or effort. I don't think you realize how dominant he could be with just average effort. It's sad. I'm not giving up on him but he's got a long way to go. And if you think next year will be any different, then you have a lot more faith in him and our coaches than I do. Why would he be more ready next year than this year? The answer is, he won't be. But I hope he is. I hope Moultrie absolutely rapes him in practice.
For some reason Sidney never gets in an athletic position(stance ) on D. He looks like is just standing there.
That alone is killing him to all who watch.
That alone is killing him to all who watch.
on either side of the ball, it's a sign of bad coaching and laziness. There's no reason to ever be standing still and straight up on offense unless you are in a stall. There's no reason to ever everbe standing straight up on defense unless the other team is in a stall. If you stood straight up at practice at my high school, you got a basketball thrown full speed at your *** so it would get down, andthe ballusually soared a little high. Stans needs to use this method, but his self righteous players would probably walk out of practice and file a lawsuit.
When was the last time you saw a guy in his first collegiate season that was great at blocking out and didn't have some growing pains?
I have been as disappointed with Sidney as anyone but that was based off of my probably unrealistic expectations coming into the year. When you look at the numbers he has put up, in spite of being out of shape and not being adjusted to the level of competition, then the possibility of his upside next year is scary. Hell even half a Sidney is better than anything we could bring in off the bench.
Sure we could have won a couple more games had Sidney played better but I guarandamntee we would probably be about 4-11 in the SEC right now without him.
I have been as disappointed with Sidney as anyone but that was based off of my probably unrealistic expectations coming into the year. When you look at the numbers he has put up, in spite of being out of shape and not being adjusted to the level of competition, then the possibility of his upside next year is scary. Hell even half a Sidney is better than anything we could bring in off the bench.
Sure we could have won a couple more games had Sidney played better but I guarandamntee we would probably be about 4-11 in the SEC right now without him.
which is why we beat Tennessee without him. He hurts us as much as he helps. No I don't want him gone, I'm not retarded. But the guy has to change if we are gonna be successful. I don't see that happening. He just doesn't have it in him, but I hope he proves me wrong. It'l be a miracle if he doesn't report at 30 pounds heavier next year.
for some reason Sidney does not get it. His stand up position says he doesn't respect what his opponents can do, like "I'm not concerned".
This is just hard for me to figure, and I don't think that part is fatigue.
This is just hard for me to figure, and I don't think that part is fatigue.
He is a freshman. He has played half a season of games.
Yes he is 21 and so he isnt young. Yes he had a year and a half to get into shape and apparently chose to get fatter instead.
But ****, this is his first season of college basketball.
Look at Patric Young at Florida. Elite friggin post player recruit and he is doing what as a freshman? 3.1ppg 3.4rpg
Fab Melo at 'Cuse...holy hell he barely even plays. 1.9ppg 1.7rpg
Boy, that Meyers Leonard at Illinois is really setting records as a freshman. 2ppg 1.4rpg
All were 5* post players and are freshmen that have played the full season instead of half like Sidney.
Then there are a select group of post playing freshmen that are excelling.
Terrence Jones is averaging 17 and 9.
Tobias Harris is averaging 14.3 and 7.6
Tristan Thompson is averaging 13.3 and 7.6
CJ Leslie is averaging 11.2 and 7.2
These are the elite 5* post players that are freshmen and on major conference teams. Sidney's stats are middle of the pack. Now stats can deceive. They dont always show defensive effort, only defensive results. That sort of thing. And Sidney needs to improve his D a lot, that is for sure. But take a look at other post freshmen who were elite recruits and playing on top conference programs and i think it is clear that Sidney is disproportionately ripped on and scrutinized by us fans and especially the media.
He is halfway thru his first season of college basketball and he has made tangible improvements in just that time. He isnt the second coming of Shaq, its time for everone to stop expecting some fully put together NBA player in a college uniform.
Mario Austin sucked at times as a freshman. Rhodes never played(though he wasnt rated nearly as high). Point is, he has obvious gaps in his game, but he is improving.
Yes he is 21 and so he isnt young. Yes he had a year and a half to get into shape and apparently chose to get fatter instead.
But ****, this is his first season of college basketball.
Look at Patric Young at Florida. Elite friggin post player recruit and he is doing what as a freshman? 3.1ppg 3.4rpg
Fab Melo at 'Cuse...holy hell he barely even plays. 1.9ppg 1.7rpg
Boy, that Meyers Leonard at Illinois is really setting records as a freshman. 2ppg 1.4rpg
All were 5* post players and are freshmen that have played the full season instead of half like Sidney.
Then there are a select group of post playing freshmen that are excelling.
Terrence Jones is averaging 17 and 9.
Tobias Harris is averaging 14.3 and 7.6
Tristan Thompson is averaging 13.3 and 7.6
CJ Leslie is averaging 11.2 and 7.2
These are the elite 5* post players that are freshmen and on major conference teams. Sidney's stats are middle of the pack. Now stats can deceive. They dont always show defensive effort, only defensive results. That sort of thing. And Sidney needs to improve his D a lot, that is for sure. But take a look at other post freshmen who were elite recruits and playing on top conference programs and i think it is clear that Sidney is disproportionately ripped on and scrutinized by us fans and especially the media.
He is halfway thru his first season of college basketball and he has made tangible improvements in just that time. He isnt the second coming of Shaq, its time for everone to stop expecting some fully put together NBA player in a college uniform.
Mario Austin sucked at times as a freshman. Rhodes never played(though he wasnt rated nearly as high). Point is, he has obvious gaps in his game, but he is improving.
but until Sidney actually acts like he wants to be good, I will continue to bash him. He doesn't seem to care right now. I think he does want to be, but he doesn't know how to do it. I put that on the coaches. I guess I should bash them instead, but I've done enough of that to last a few years.
plus, everybody knows that 6' 10" post players are typically the most active people on defense. Especially freshmens.
I think he has improved significantly. So, I think he wants to be good and does care.
I also think he's been coddled and enabled for years and years. So much so that when things didn't go his way he couldn't adjust. I don't fault Stansbury either. It's hard for a coach to undo l9 years in 15 months. If he comes back, I predict he will be dominant. He'll see that millions are within reach and he'll do what has to be done to get the money.
I also think he's been coddled and enabled for years and years. So much so that when things didn't go his way he couldn't adjust. I don't fault Stansbury either. It's hard for a coach to undo l9 years in 15 months. If he comes back, I predict he will be dominant. He'll see that millions are within reach and he'll do what has to be done to get the money.
I have not looked at the offensive production numbers with RSS in or out. But I am pretty sure we went on that long run in the 2nd half of the Pig game with him on the bench. Just saying.....
MaroonedNdaRock said:
One run in a game does not a season make......just sayin.
I am not saying that Sidney commands a triple team or anything but the more guys on th floor that can score then the less teams can double team Bost and Ravern. Benock and Lewis barely even need to be guarded at all which puts more pressure on the others to produce. Kodi played great at Arkansas and that is what made the difference moreso than Renardo's absencebut he has not consistently done that this year.
But i also think his value is much less because of his crappy inconsistent defense. He shows flashes of effort and proper positioning, but clouds that up with not moving his feet and reaching.
He is like Ravern in a way. His offense/stats are fine, but most everything that isnt mearused by stats is lacking.
He is like Ravern in a way. His offense/stats are fine, but most everything that isnt mearused by stats is lacking.