I know it's convenient, but holy crap, it gets old. I would almost welcome a Bruiser dissertation on the evils of billboards more than these "Sidney sucks" posts. By the way, LEWIS played like a ****** tonight, not Sidney.
Sidney is what he is, can we dispense with the bashing please?
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Watching the game on TV last night and one of the very first things Rece Davis mentioned was how Sidney is great or a disaster on any given night. Also talked about how he hasn't lived up to his potential.<div>
</div><div>Its one of this teams biggest, if not the biggest, story lines this season. If people want to discuss it you shouldn't have a problem with that.</div><div>
</div><div>When you have a player on your team who could physically take us to the next level but mentally has the potential to destroy this team..... it is worth discussing. Nobody is forcing you to read anything here.</div>
</div><div>Its one of this teams biggest, if not the biggest, story lines this season. If people want to discuss it you shouldn't have a problem with that.</div><div>
</div><div>When you have a player on your team who could physically take us to the next level but mentally has the potential to destroy this team..... it is worth discussing. Nobody is forcing you to read anything here.</div>
We will all stop bashing Renardo Sidney when he gets in basketball shape, hustles for an entire game, and cuts the dramatic **** out and just plays basketball. Deal? The dude loafs the entire game and waits for a chance to dive on the ground or block a shot or jump outta bounds and call a timeout so people will think he is hustling. He hurts us so much.
this persists when all of the players notice this. Not just those on the basketball team. A friend showed me during the game last night a tweet Jonathon Banks posted on his account. Since I don't have twitter, I don't know his twitter name and nor do I know how to embed a twitter post on here, but what he pretty much said was that he wonders if the fans talk about them (football team) like that whenever they play.<div>
</div><div>It's honestly demoralizing when you have your own fanbase dog you out on a constant basis like that. I will admit though that I have a hard time feeling bad for Sidney at times because he has brought a lot of this on himself, but I don't think he deserves the type of backlash he has been getting. Some times it seems like a lot of people want him to fail instead of see him progress and I can see him (and others) interpreting fan responses to that degree. Wanting him to get in shape and play his heart out is one thing, but having your own fans heckle you when you get to the free throw line is another. That **** is uncalled for as long as he's playing for this team.</div><div>
</div><div>I know what I'm saying, others will completely disagree, but there are too many people taking their displeasure of an athlete way too far.</div>
</div><div>It's honestly demoralizing when you have your own fanbase dog you out on a constant basis like that. I will admit though that I have a hard time feeling bad for Sidney at times because he has brought a lot of this on himself, but I don't think he deserves the type of backlash he has been getting. Some times it seems like a lot of people want him to fail instead of see him progress and I can see him (and others) interpreting fan responses to that degree. Wanting him to get in shape and play his heart out is one thing, but having your own fans heckle you when you get to the free throw line is another. That **** is uncalled for as long as he's playing for this team.</div><div>
</div><div>I know what I'm saying, others will completely disagree, but there are too many people taking their displeasure of an athlete way too far.</div>
I completely agree with this, andsocial mediahas exacerbated the problem. Once upon a not to distant past,you couldcuss the efforts of a player in the comfort of his own home withyour drunk buddies. Now,you and every single drunk buddy take toFacebook/Twitter/Message Boards to dogout a player. Now, while I still cringe at the swan-ish "players might read this message board" theory,they definitelyare onTwitter and Facebook. If you take it out of the context of sports,can you name any other situation where this would be deemed acceptable behavior by anyone?It's flat out bullying hidden behind the excuse of "Ijust want MSU to succeed." But on the internet, where you often think thatall the other people out there are exactly like you in every single way,you say stuff you wouldn't dare utter to someone's face, or even in a crowd of actual people. And the subject of the rant? Well, they're playing"big boy sports" right? Theyshouldn't be affected byyour words right? In fact, they should get over it and it will make them better right?Don't be ridiculous. Imagine if you logged onto toFacebook and it was nothing but people talking about how fat you were, how lazy you were, how much of a wasteyou were, how people would like it better if you weren't around. You sound likea bunch of bullying high schoolgirls.Incognegro said:
So a guy doesn't rotate and gives up a dunk on defense? There's a difference in, "You gotta be there to stop that!" and "you lazy sack of ****!" And I've been there, done that before. On this site, anyway. Never on a forum like Facebook. So, stones can be thrown my way. But when I realized I was calling 20 year olds lazy sacks of ****, when at that age I was high as a kite, 40 pounds overweight, and had nothing to do but go to class occasionally, it sort of put in perspective what an *** I was being.
/general "you" not you personally, Incognegro
//world saver post
whether it may be a clutch field goal needing to be made by an inconsistent kicker or a couple of clutch free throws by an under achieving power forward... I'm not going to justify heckling them during the course of a game nor am I the type of person that will just berate their entire character especially if I don't know them. Sure, I may show my frustrations in their lack of play, but a lot of the ways I've seen fans showcase their frustrations about players just blows my mind.<div>
</div><div>Also...don't pretend our fans don't talk **** about the football team... To your defense, there isn't anyone on this team that gets it to the degree as Sydney, but I have a hard time thinking of a current player who hasn't had some kind of **** talked about them in recent memory.</div>
</div><div>Also...don't pretend our fans don't talk **** about the football team... To your defense, there isn't anyone on this team that gets it to the degree as Sydney, but I have a hard time thinking of a current player who hasn't had some kind of **** talked about them in recent memory.</div>
in the stands all the time. I'm 100% sure that I've done it. I'm 100% sure that everyone else has at some point in time- you may not have gone into a profanity laced tirade, but it may be as simple as "you've got to catch that!". And I'm 100% sure it has happened during the Dan Mullen era even with the relentless effort of Relf missing reads on the zone read option.
Anyone else see the irony in this post? No one should say that Sidney sucks but it is OK to call Lewis a ******?DawgBalls2 said:
For the record, Iagree one million percent with Sesh's postin this thread. There is way too muchdisparagement of our very own playersthat goes beyond what is acceptable. Most of our coaches are at MSU because they are being paid well and criticism is part of the territory but most of the players are there because they chose to come to our school and represent us.
I asked becasue I am sick as17 of reading about the same **** after every single game. We know he is out of shape, we know he may not be giving 100% effort all of the time........we know all of this. There is no reason to repeat it every second of every game. He is what he is and he is obviously notgoing to change.
ETA: I was unaware that the f-bomb would automatically change to ghey symbols.
ETA: I was unaware that the f-bomb would automatically change to ghey symbols.
I think most of the venom in thecriticismof Sidney originates from his off the court antics or rumor there of. Plenty of athletes loaf or are out of shape but few have duked it out in the stands with a teammate and/or been suspended multiple times. Just sayin.<div>
</div><div>I respect yourfervorand moxie sir.</div>
</div><div>I respect yourfervorand moxie sir.</div>
Sidney is working his *** off and he deserves credit. Saying that the football team always plays with "rellentless effort is a major cliche and straight from the coach's mouth. Huge pile of ******** created with one sentence. My pathetic congratulations to you.
I don't even care if he gets in shape, or cuts the dramatic **** out... Just hustle the entire time he's on the floor. If you're tired. sit down. Don't walk down the court. Don't foul someone. Hustle, or don't play.